Need To Install 10.4 Tiger

snipecaik

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Today I finally received my g4 mac mini, however what the seller didn't mention was that there is no operating system. Any advice, is obtaining a disc the only way I am able to install any os?
 

redheeler

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I thought you couldn't burn os x disk images to a disc?
No, you can burn an install disk for OS X just like pretty much any other OS and it will work fine (provided you did it correctly). I've installed both Tiger and Leopard from disks I burned myself.
 

snipecaik

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Visit: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mac-osx-mac-os-10-ppc

Choose version (Tiger and Leopard towards the bottom). Download. Burn. Install.

Note that the downloading and burning will require a different computer.

Also, your mini can run Leopard.
Well.. I'm choosing tiger because it runs much better than leopard.
With regards to the burning process, what software should I use, I'll assume I will need two discs, are there any guides on this?
 

redheeler

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Well.. I'm choosing tiger because it runs much better than leopard.
With regards to the burning process, what software should I use, I'll assume I will need two discs, are there any guides on this?
Tiger will fit on a single DVD. For burning it depends what OS you're running, on MacOS it's as simple as right-clicking the disk image in Finder and clicking Burn, for Windows you'll need to download a third-party app.
 

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Well.. I'm choosing tiger because it runs much better than leopard.
I disagree entirely. But it's not my Mac so that is up to you. Leopard runs solidly on all my Macs.

Just don't ever use Tiger in a Windows server environment with mixed PCs and Macs. Also, Tiger is a complete fail when it comes to operating as a print server.

With regards to the burning process, what software should I use, I'll assume I will need two discs, are there any guides on this?
Disk Utility is usually what I use. But you can also use Toast Titanium.
 
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redheeler

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I disagree entirely. But it's not my Mac so that is up to you. Leopard runs solidly on all my Macs.

Just don't ever use Tiger in a Windows server environment with mixed PCs and Macs. Also, Tiger is a complete fail when it comes to operating as a print server.
I have to come to Tiger's defense here; while Leopard can perform decently on G4 Macs with the proper optimizations, Tiger does hold an edge. Furthermore, it can fit on a single-layer DVD which is not true for Leopard (at least without modifying the image).

It does depend entirely on your usage. If someone is going to be using PowerPC as a main Mac in 2017, I'd probably recommend Leopard as well. But for most use cases, Tiger is fine. Only wish TenFourKit were still being maintained.
Disk Utility is usually what I use. But you can also use Toast Titanium.
Disk Utility no longer works for this in 10.11+. Burning through Finder does still work, however.
 

snipecaik

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The link I was provided has a tiger download that is almost 7GBs, how will this fit on a single layer disc?
 

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The link I was provided has a tiger download that is almost 7GBs, how will this fit on a single layer disc?
It looks like the Tiger download is 2.72 GB while Leopard is 6.88 GB. Make sure you're downloading the right one.
 

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Eh... Look again, the Tiger download image is 2.54GB.
Just slightly less than 7GB, but it's all relative, I suppose.
 

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I have to come to Tiger's defense here; while Leopard can perform decently on G4 Macs with the proper optimizations, Tiger does hold an edge. Furthermore, it can fit on a single-layer DVD which is not true for Leopard (at least without modifying the image).

It does depend entirely on your usage. If someone is going to be using PowerPC as a main Mac in 2017, I'd probably recommend Leopard as well. But for most use cases, Tiger is fine. Only wish TenFourKit were still being maintained.
Fair points. And I will admit to having it installed on certain Macs I own or use, but only for very specific reasons

It does, as you say, depend on your usage. Having used it for 2-3 years in a server environment as the OS of the primary Mac for design and layout at work though I would NEVER choose it over Leopard.

The one Mac I do have it running on at work has no need to be updated and no need to run more modern apps. As an Applescript server I have Tiger installed because the Mac has limited ram. However, I still have to compensate for SMB/CIFS and server connections by having DAVE installed. It's the only way anything can be done without Tiger wailing about server disconnects and beachballing Finder.

Sorry, I whine as well but just my experience.

Disk Utility no longer works for this in 10.11+. Burning through Finder does still work, however.
Ah, thanks. The MP at work (that I am typing this on) is running 10.10. Afraid if I go any higher I will lose the ability to use Adobe CS4.
 
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Fair points. And I will admit to having it installed on certain Macs I own or use, but only for very specific reasons

It does, as you say, depend on your usage. Having used it for 2-3 years in a server environment as the OS of the primary Mac for design and layout at work though I would NEVER choose it over Leopard.

The one Mac I do have it running on at work has no need to be updated and no need to run more modern apps. As an Applescript server I have Tiger installed because the Mac has limited ram. However, I still have to compensate for SMB/CIFS and server connections by having DAVE installed. It's the only way anything can be done without Tiger wailing about server disconnects and beachballing Finder.

Sorry, I whine as well but just my experience.


Ah, thanks. The MP at work (that I am typing this on) is running 10.10. Afraid if I go any higher I will lose the ability to use Adobe CS4.
You have to remember that the G4 Minis are limited to only 1GB RAM. This can be a pain point. Most other Macs, even older ones that can still run Leopard, allow for more than 1GB usually.
 

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You have to remember that the G4 Minis are limited to only 1GB RAM. This can be a pain point. Most other Macs, even older ones that can still run Leopard, allow for more than 1GB usually.
That is true.

However, my son has run a 1.0Ghz Titanium DVI and now a 15" Albook with a failed lower ram slot with 1GB. He does fine on Leopard. I did fine on Leopard using a 400mhz TiBook for a long time (until my daughter killed it).

It's possible and doable if what you are using that limited ram Mac for is everyday use.

Would I use Leopard over Tiger with less than 1GB of ram on one of these laptops if they were not my daily use Mac? No.
 
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