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In regards to the noise issue i am one of the many people who do not have any problems. My MBP is whisper quiet except for when i am using the DVD-Slot. I have have been using mine for coming up to two weeks now and i have never even heard the fan been used once. This machine is so quiet and a lot more quiet than the former PC that i was using.
 
The noise on the MacBook Pro isn't that bad. My MacBook Pro makes noise all the time when on battery power, but it doesn' make as much noise as my old Powerbook made. Only difference is MBP makes it all the time when on battery, PowerBook only made it when doing something CPU intensive.

I strongly recommend you get the MBP. I maen, by getting the PowerBook you're paying $1600 CAD for obsolte and already outdated technology. You really don't want to be doing that. If you can possibly afford to, get the MBP, since that's current.
 
Do you really want to spend all that money on a refurbished, outdated model?!

Get the MBP. If you're worried about the whine, do what I did and get it direct from an Apple Store. Bring it in and complain if it makes noise during the first two weeks and they can do an exchange for you (I did this with the LCD whine).

If you can afford it, I would def. recommend upping the MBP's memory to 1 gig. I have the 2.0ghz, 1 gig model and while Rosetta is snappy, I can't imagine it would perform that well with just 512. But then again I've never tried it so who knows :)
 
Well, the thing is I am currently using my wife's iBook G4 1GHz and I am happy with that. I think the Powerbook will be enough powerful for me for at least 2-3 years. God know what will happen to Intel Macs at that time, maybe Apple can offer 15" MacBook Pro for less than 1 lb.

As you can tell, I am more leaning towards to Powerbook as it's a better price for my need. But I heard some bad things about the model I am interested in. Someone mentioned to me that "the current generation Powerbook G4 with DDR2 ram and the higher screen resolutions are also Rev As and have MORE problems than the MPBs for which they were a partial prototype."

Can someone confirm that?
 
edmonton said:
Well, the thing is I am currently using my wife's iBook G4 1GHz and I am happy with that. I think the Powerbook will be enough powerful for me for at least 2-3 years. God know what will happen to Intel Macs at that time, maybe Apple can offer 15" MacBook Pro for less than 1 lb.

As you can tell, I am more leaning towards to Powerbook as it's a better price for my need. But I heard some bad things about the model I am interested in. Someone mentioned to me that "the current generation Powerbook G4 with DDR2 ram and the higher screen resolutions are also Rev As and have MORE problems than the MPBs for which they were a partial prototype."

Can someone confirm that?

If you are leaning towards the PB with DL it's a great machine. Even with the lines on the screen it was a dream.

I sold mine to get the MBP. The MBP is not a prototype. It's a well thought and finished product that operates smooth and trouble free, and it's amazingly fast for some operations.

The CPU noise is a non-issue, it's irrelevant, meaningless, it exists more on the heads of some obsessed that only focus on the noise and don't use the computer to work and play.

I don't like the refurbs though... they might have been in an Applestore turned on 24/7 365 days a year with thousands of people throwing fingers at it... Try Powerbook Central :http://www.powerbookcentral.com/classifieds/ultimatebb.php/ubb/forum/f/20.html There are ppl that want the latest and greatest and are selling theur like new PB's for around $1500. If they ask for more you just offer that amount and you'll get an excellent PB at a good price.

Good luck
 
I received two replacements for my defective retail-new iPod nano, and both of them are refurbished but look like new. (The color of the first one is wrong, so I got the second one after returning the first one.)

I called Apple and complained about getting a refurbished for a retail-new. The rep said basically Apple refurbished is not bad at all, it's tested fully functional and looks just like new. If not, I can request replacement. I did end up getting a brand new one with box after asking her to transfer me to the supervisor. Hence, I am pretty confident with Apple's refurbished.

YMMV.
 
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