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Hi,

I just got my first RMBP and wanted to list the things that I didn't like about it:

- There is no indicator light to show that the machine is sleeping
- There are no indicator lights to show the battery level
- The 2880x1800 is only a doubled 1440x900 and gives less space than the previous 1680x1050 display (unless you enable some performance degrading indirect rendering with scaling, obviously I'm comparing a 15" RMBP to a previous 15" MBP).
Alternatively:
- Still no possibility to change the size of many things, e.g. the font size in the menu bar (which for example the Amiga could do 20 years ago).
- The keyboard feels cheaper than on the older MBP
- The L-style MagSafe suited me better

The list of positive things is of course longer, otherwise I wouldn't have bought one, but I do think there are some points that need improvement, ironically the display resolution being one of them. And yes, I have tried the hack for native resolution, but that's a bit too much.

This is not to complain, I'm just trying for a balanced view of an overall great machine that does however not improve on all aspects of its predecessor...

What do you think?

I totally agree with you. The points you listed above made me choose the last non-Retina 15 inch gen over the first gen rMBP a year ago (I also had the choice of an AG display at that time, which for me made the difference despite all the retina hype). I remember trying them both in the store last year, and indeed, the keyboard on the rMBP feels very cheap, most probably because of the low chassis which contributed to the keys being shallow. One might get used to the new keyboard over time, but as far as I am concerned I find the old one better, it gives you better feedback when pressing the keys.

Yet another negative aspect I find about the rMBP vs the last gen refers to the black plastic hinge that you see when opening the lid. The retinas have a sort of raised hinge when you open them (this allows for better ventilation I think), but it looks like a bad design in my opinion.
 
Hi,

I just got my first RMBP and wanted to list the things that I didn't like about it:

- There is no indicator light to show that the machine is sleeping
True. Save a few $. Personally I hate that light - makes me put my Macbook out of the room when I wanna sleep
- There are no indicator lights to show the battery level
was probably the biggest showoff, and cool to look at. but honestly I never used it.
- The 2880x1800 is only a doubled 1440x900 and gives less space than the previous 1680x1050 display (unless you enable some performance degrading indirect rendering with scaling, obviously I'm comparing a 15" RMBP to a previous 15" MBP).
When it first came out I thought the exact same thing: 1680x1050 HiDPI equivalent would have been better. I still think that, but the scaled resolutions work well and the performance impact is minimal (on the 15")
- Still no possibility to change the size of many things, e.g. the font size in the menu bar (which for example the Amiga could do 20 years ago).
- The keyboard feels cheaper than on the older MBP
- The L-style MagSafe suited me better
1. Never had a problem with that, but know that you mentioned it I can see how some might like to change it
2. The rMBP keyboard is probably the best on the market. But that is only, because the old MBP is gone - the old keyboard definitely felt a bit better.
3. The L-syle MagSafe looked better, but 3 of those **** things broke within 3 years ... Hope the new one works better
 
It's possible to enable the right click on the track pad - Settings -> Trackpad -> Point&Click -> Secondary click -> change it to "Click on Bottom Right Corner"

Thanks, this was extremely helpful to me. I use unix clients for work, and not having the ability to right click for select, copy and paste was a pib.
Thanks for the tip.
 
No, that's not how it works.

The 1440x900 HiDPI is rendered at 2880x1800 which can be directly displayed.

The 1680x1050 HiDPI is rendered at 3360x2100 which is then scaled down to 2880x1800 which can the be displayed.

So 1680x1050 HiDPI results in a performance drop? Could someone elaborate? And how does this work with 1920x1200 (aka more space)?
 
Hi,

I just got my first RMBP and wanted to list the things that I didn't like about it:

- There is no indicator light to show that the machine is sleeping
- There are no indicator lights to show the battery level
- The 2880x1800 is only a doubled 1440x900 and gives less space than the previous 1680x1050 display (unless you enable some performance degrading indirect rendering with scaling, obviously I'm comparing a 15" RMBP to a previous 15" MBP).
Alternatively:
- Still no possibility to change the size of many things, e.g. the font size in the menu bar (which for example the Amiga could do 20 years ago).
- The keyboard feels cheaper than on the older MBP
- The L-style MagSafe suited me better

The list of positive things is of course longer, otherwise I wouldn't have bought one, but I do think there are some points that need improvement, ironically the display resolution being one of them. And yes, I have tried the hack for native resolution, but that's a bit too much.

This is not to complain, I'm just trying for a balanced view of an overall great machine that does however not improve on all aspects of its predecessor...

What do you think?

I agree with some of your points. The keyboard feels cheap (which is why I usually connect a 1977 beam spring keyboard). The default doubled resolution is too small to be useful (I use 1920x1200 instead, with a keyboard shortcut to switch to 2880x1800). The removed indicator lights for sleep and battery are a minor disappointment, but it doesn't bother me that much.

I have other gripes though. The battery life is much shorter than advertised. I'm getting an average of 3 hours, not 8. The graphics and CPU are not nearly as fast as I expected. I expected smooth scrolling and non-jerky fluid graphics.

As an Amiga user, I share your disappointment with limited user configuration. Many things that you used to be able to change are now deliberately prevented (dock background, menubar transparency, various tweaks). You can't even change the damn menubar clock format any more! Even worse is the stupid auto-save and ignoring of window size & position in many OSX programs (why do I have to keep resizing the damn finder window??). I want the Amiga concepts of "snapshotting" and "USE/SAVE/CANCEL" for configurations! Instead, Apple has the concept of "every change you make is auto-saved except for some things you'll have to adjust every damn time" - which sucks.

Overall though, it's probably the best notebook computer you can get right now and I'm very pleased with the design. Finally I have a computer that matches my Amiga's 15-second boot time and instant shutdown.
 
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The external LED's on the battery made sense in the days when the battery just popped out and could be swapped in 10 seconds. If you had multiple batteries, say for travel, you could easily tell which one had charge just by picking it up out of your bag. When Apple switched to internal non user replaceable batteries the indicator lights really became pretty redundant. I'm not sure why Apple kept them around as long as they did. I don't think they really served a purpose.

I do miss the little white sleep indicator though.

They can still be useful to know wether you need to stick it on charge or grab the charger on the way out. Especially if more then one person uses the notebook.. I know I get a shouting from the Mrs when I've used hers and not stuck it on charge. These days with battery's lasting so long, if you only need to use it for an hour or two you can quite often just grab the notebook and head out, only to find someone (me :/) has been using it. Now she's learned to check the battery indicator LEDs.
 
MagSafe solution: Take the old L-Styled cable and buy one of the MagSafe to MagSafe 2 adapters. Adds just a bit of bulk, but it fixes your problem.
 
It doesn't have dual audio connections, forcing you to buy an audio controller just for recording some fast and simple tracks for later use.

I don't own a retina. But this is a concern but it has plusses as well.

Negatives are that you don't have a discreet input.

Plus is you can use a single plug mic'd headset. Great for conferencing. I believe the remote buttons work as well.

If Apple was smart, they'd include a slightly longer cable Earpod with mic/remote with the retinas. Just to advertise the "new" features, to let us know they're negotiating tech tradeoffs on our behalf. Otherwise to most this feels like they're just taking away features.

I used my mic port more than most, probably about 10 times in total. Using a dual-headed 3.5mm jack to record from my output. There are a lot of USB mics on the market.

But I hear that audio techs often use an usb audio controller for input and output anyways, and that pushing audio over 3.5mm is garbage and the internal amp is no good.

If I had to lock down features (and keep the product slim and light) for millions of customers, I'd probably rather have the dual function single port. I think it has more utility for the coffee shop crowd. If the Pro moniker has any meaning to Apple besides inventory differentiation, it's for those people. Desktop warriors have rats nest of accessories to plug in to their devices and are a fragmented market that Apple makes little effort to please.

If they wanted to, let the new port be reassigned as stereo audio in as a setting. I can't think of an existing way that would let you monitor that audio though, unless you had a splitter that would connect a stereo mic and mono headset. Not ideal. Not elegant.

Similarly, they could have made the HDMI port an input as well. Again though, they're negotiating tradeoffs on our behalf.
 
I wish there was an enter/return key besise the command key like on my Black Macbook.
 
- There is no indicator light to show that the machine is sleeping
- There are no indicator lights to show the battery level
- The 2880x1800 is only a doubled 1440x900 and gives less space than the previous 1680x1050 display (unless you enable some performance degrading indirect rendering with scaling, obviously I'm comparing a 15" RMBP to a previous 15" MBP).
Alternatively:
- Still no possibility to change the size of many things, e.g. the font size in the menu bar (which for example the Amiga could do 20 years ago).
- The keyboard feels cheaper than on the older MBP
- The L-style MagSafe suited me better

I agree with all the things you mention. They feel like musical chairs at best, at worst unnecessary amputations. Even the least used features seem like things that I will miss. Each of these things are used by everybody somewhat, or by small professional niches a lot.

I would add:
-Losing the IR sensor would have been better if they replaced that feature with something, anything. Apple should perhaps develop a phone that could perhaps control the computer. Nah, crazy idea.
-Losing the power button seems like a loss. That was a nice touch point. I know they put it on the keyboard (which feel like a cheap move). I worry about hitting it (I know that it is a momentary switch style button, but still).
-Power key on an outside part of the clamshell seems like a better move to me. Some people never open their laptops except to power them on. Put it near the magsafe port.
-Losing the eject button kinda made sense. Except that we do still eject volumes. So they just moved the power button here, because they had the space. Again, they didn't do anything to make this feel other than a cheap move. I would much rather see the function keys space out in clusters of four, like we see on more usable keyboards, so we can start to feel the keyboard out better.
- Alternatively, they could have moved the fn key up to where the power key was. Like it is on the extended keyboard, and where my muscle memory wants it to be placed consistently.
- Ethernet port. If you're going to make an adapter necessary, design one that doesn't have the bulk of a pregnant goat. Zero IT departments are transitioning away from Ethernet as a wired protocol.
- Plugs on both sides. Ports/slots switching sides. Ugly/musical chairs.
- Give us an HDMI port only after we stopped asking, what is that about?

They feel like retrograde maneuvers instead of strategic advances from Apple. I think people accept the rMBP designs because it's Apple, and there are some new features, but Apple did not present them as a evolution, just as an opportunity that they saw to change some things. It just felt like they threw things together for the sake of weight and slimming. They needed to consider that they have existing customers and try to position these decisions as advantages to them. It could have been handled waaay better.

However, look at the bright side. While the retina launch lacked any leadership or imagination, it could have been way worse.
- All retina models have crazy amounts of monitor expansion.
- Super high speed TB connectivity. Windows PCs are steering clear of this for various reasons, and it's their loss. The OEMs are hamstrung by cheapo customers who are clinging to VGA ports.
- They didn't take away our SD Card slot.
- Doubled 1440x900 as native is nice for when you are using your monitor at a distance with another main external. I have the 1050px MBP but I scale it so it's ugly but legible when I'm using it in this way. I probably would have been better off with the cheaper panel.
- The 13" is super sexy, but not limited.
- The 15" is super powerful, it's big but slim.
- Insane battery life.
- Best in class storage speed.
- Magsafe adapters exist and are not as expensive or bulky as we'd expect.
- Haven't lost anything like Target Display or Target Disk mode, Boot Camp, or AirPlay. Not yet at least.

Now that retina scaling has been duly beta tested by their customers, all Retina models are good values. But I'm waiting as long as I can because they are value products masquerading as feature products. It's all Apple quality, so top notch, but they are being overly parsimonious with their resources.

There are a lot of us putting padlocks on our wallets until we see something that really strikes us as solving our particular problems. For me and my problem of wanting a "dockable" station, that's probably a refreshed Thunderbolt Display and a Retina model, or an iMac and a bootable TB drive.

But I will probably join this generation at some point, and I'll try to embrace it as much as I can. Before they haul me off to the poorhouse.
 
Update after using the machine for a bit:

The effective real-estate at 1440x900 still feels small on a 15", although I have changed a few fonts to be smaller than usual. Unfortunately OS X and many apps are really backwards in this regard, for example you can't change the font size of the menu-bar or of Aperture buttons. As soon as a 15" with a doubled 1680x1050 is available I'll upgrade.

In all other respects the screen is superb. The speed I get with a USB-3 card reader, USB-3 hard disk and expensive USB-3 stick are a big leap ahead over the old USB-2 devices. The keyboard is ok. Still miss the indicator light for whether the machine is powered on. And then there's 802.11ac, which is a mixed bag, because the distances at which I get gigabit speeds could be easily bridged by a cable...
 
Update after using the machine for a bit:

The effective real-estate at 1440x900 still feels small on a 15", although I have changed a few fonts to be smaller than usual. Unfortunately OS X and many apps are really backwards in this regard, for example you can't change the font size of the menu-bar or of Aperture buttons. As soon as a 15" with a doubled 1680x1050 is available I'll upgrade.

In all other respects the screen is superb. The speed I get with a USB-3 card reader, USB-3 hard disk and expensive USB-3 stick are a big leap ahead over the old USB-2 devices. The keyboard is ok. Still miss the indicator light for whether the machine is powered on. And then there's 802.11ac, which is a mixed bag, because the distances at which I get gigabit speeds could be easily bridged by a cable...

What's wrong with 1680 x 1050 right now? I use it 100% of the time, I love it.
 
While I agree with the OP, my only major negative with the rMBP is it has rendered my external displays [ limited to 1080 ] near useless!...And, those hiDPI monitors [ 30" ] are mighty expensive right now..

I also prefer the keyboard on the rMBP over the classic MBPs. I find my typing has gotten a lot faster with this new keyboard [ less play ].
 
I have other gripes though. The battery life is much shorter than advertised. I'm getting an average of 3 hours, not 8. The graphics and CPU are not nearly as fast as I expected. I expected smooth scrolling and non-jerky fluid graphics.

3 hour battery life is not normal. Are you by chance running Google Chrome? Because Chrome is known the be an incredible power hog.

If you are using Chrome now, try using Safari for a while and see what happens to your battery life!
 
Hi,

I just got my first RMBP and wanted to list the things that I didn't like about it:

- There is no indicator light to show that the machine is sleeping
- There are no indicator lights to show the battery level
- The 2880x1800 is only a doubled 1440x900 and gives less space than the previous 1680x1050 display (unless you enable some performance degrading indirect rendering with scaling, obviously I'm comparing a 15" RMBP to a previous 15" MBP).
Alternatively:
- Still no possibility to change the size of many things, e.g. the font size in the menu bar (which for example the Amiga could do 20 years ago).
- The keyboard feels cheaper than on the older MBP
- The L-style MagSafe suited me better

...

Besides the MagSafe I fully agree to all of your points. I like this version of the MagSafe better and I think it is more safe then the L-shape version.

What I dislike most :
- no sleep light ! Heck why?
- keyboard worse then the 15"
 
I don't own a RMBP, I didn't know they removed the sleeping light! That's a shame! I always found it pretty nice and soothing, haha.

As for the battery indicator lights, I used it a few times when I bought the computer, but never any more. Don't see much of a use for it.
 
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