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'Nest Protect' Smoke Detectors Back On Sale After Safety Recall, Now Starting at $99
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Still not worth it, but priced a bit more reasonably.
I'm actually contemplating ditching my Nest to get the Google Ads out of my house (yes, that is their plan, just not doing it yet). I've got my rebates from it already, and bought it at 25% off. I'll have no issue flipping it.
The Honeywell Lyric is my current temptress, but a las, she isn't out yet.
I'm actually contemplating ditching my Nest to get the Google Ads out of my house (yes, that is their plan, just not doing it yet). I've got my rebates from it already, and bought it at 25% off. I'll have no issue flipping it.
The Honeywell Lyric is my current temptress, but a las, she isn't out yet.
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FYI:
For those who bought the Nest Protect at full price, and like me, was a bit annoyed that the Nest Wave feature is still disabled, and will be for the foreseeable future...
You can get a refund of the difference between what you paid and the reduced price of the new release by going here, filling out a form (10 seconds), and getting a refund.
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I'm not questioning your choices or your criticism, just in the name of accuracy the thingy didn't cost $250, but $132 (shipping included), and the refund is for $33.
Again...no arguments as to whether it was worth it or not...just a factual correction.
For those who bought the Nest Protect at full price, and like me, was a bit annoyed that the Nest Wave feature is still disabled, and will be for the foreseeable future...
You can get a refund of the difference between what you paid and the reduced price of the new release by going here, filling out a form (10 seconds), and getting a refund.
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So if they pulled them to update the software due to this issue then why are they re introducing them STILL BROKEN months later? Makes no since. At least its only $99 for a broken device instead of $250
Think I will stick with the $29 home depot version that works. I don't need to wave at it to tell it goodbye when there is a fire.
I'm not questioning your choices or your criticism, just in the name of accuracy the thingy didn't cost $250, but $132 (shipping included), and the refund is for $33.
Again...no arguments as to whether it was worth it or not...just a factual correction.
Look at the rate of false alarms on the Nest community forum.
https://community.nest.com/community/help-with-nest-protect
I put up two of these last year for my mother and had false alarms on both. The second one could not be silenced, so the neighbor had to help take them down.
This is a much bigger problem than any "wave" feature and will define the company soon if not dealt with.
https://community.nest.com/community/help-with-nest-protect
I put up two of these last year for my mother and had false alarms on both. The second one could not be silenced, so the neighbor had to help take them down.
This is a much bigger problem than any "wave" feature and will define the company soon if not dealt with.
Because you're trying to off your roommate, and the annoying fire alarm might wake him up?
You could only silence it when a little smoke was present, such as burnt toast. If the smoke became thicker than that you could not silence the alarm.
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Honestly this is why I think they stopped selling them. Mine went berserk one morning very early. NOT A NICE WAY TO WAKE UP. I finally got it to shut up and it went off again 20 minutes later. I had to take it down off the wall, remove the back, and remove the batteries to stop it. Nest sent me a new one which has been fine thus far. The production date was April 2014. I did have to send the faulty one back to them for analysis.
To be fair, no smoke protector is without issues. I think Nest actually shined a spotlight on a product that is rarely talked about (especially online). I wouldn't be surprised if the Nest actually has a smaller fault rate than the cheap ones at Walmart that most people install.
No, it is as if you always drove Honda's and Ford purchased the company so you no longer trust them and started purchasing Toyota's instead. (Remember, when you purchase a car, you get the entire car all at once. When you purchase an interned driven device, you purchase it with all of the upgrades. If the company that owns it does a bad job, your device turns to garbage.)
So if they pulled them to update the software due to this issue then why are they re introducing them STILL BROKEN months later? Makes no since. At least its only $99 for a broken device instead of $250
Think I will stick with the $29 home depot version that works. I don't need to wave at it to tell it goodbye when there is a fire.
It was never broken. They found a theoretical flaw that might or might not ever cause problems in the real world. Every product has them, most are never found.
Just because some document talked about brainstormed theoretical possibilities doesn't mean that anything even close to that will be happening in reality ever.
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I'd rather Apple provide the frame work for third party hardware to talk to the software. More options out there since Apple doenst make major appliances.
To be fair I never had a faulty smoke detector but then again I do not shop at Walmart. If I'm going to protect my home I'm not going to shop at Walmart commercial grade smoke detectors do not cost a ton of money.
Most homes are not utilizing commercial grade smoke detectors. What you find at Walmart is what you will see in most homes.
No mater who owns it, it is still the same nest product you bought - hasn't changed in any way BUT because it's now part of the evil empire that is Google you don't like it any more. That is totally irrational.
BTW if you want to talk about information harvesting take a look at Apples ibeacon. Now that's scary.
BTW if you want to talk about information harvesting take a look at Apples ibeacon. Now that's scary.
Simply put, I have a SEVERE DISTRUST of Google at this point. I have some trust in Apple. Apple hasn't shown a blatant disregard and a desire to invade everyone's privacy like Google has, and continues to do.
Case in point. I USED to have a Youtube account separate from a Google Plus account. I would comment on Youtube videos from my Youtube account. But, along comes Google who buys Youtube. Lo and behold, they now prevent you from commenting on videos UNLESS you have and sign in to Youtube with a Google Plus account. I DESPISE this type of arm twisting in order to more easily track everything and everywhere an individual goes on the internet.
There is a reason I had separate accounts. I try to keep things separate and isolated to make it harder for these people to connect the dots. Am I swimming against the current? Probably. But I will fight it all the way.
Google even proudly displays their intentions on the login screen. "One account, all of Google"
So how long before my SEPARATE Nest account is forced to become a Google Plus account? Or, my Nest gets an update and wham-o, it's now an Android based OS.
Google bought Nest for a reason. Period. They wanted access to something Nest had on its user base. I guarantee it wasn't for the revenue from the hardware sales.
I'll say it again. NOTHING changed the day Google bought Nest. I like my Nest as it CURRENTLY functions. I just don't trust what Google intends to do with it.
I've never had any other detector give a false positive before... I have had one fail by not going off with a lot of smoke present. Luckily it was right before I wake up anyway. Given a choice I'd rather have a false positive than a false negative.
Glad I found this thread, I just made $33 in about 30 seconds. Thanks Nest.
As for falsely turning off an alarm, that's not going to happen. Even if you did turn off the first alarm, if fire was sensed it will go off again. Beats the hell out of being waked up in the middle of the night when a battery is dead and nothing else is wrong. Nest Protect will tell me the battery is low ahead of time and remote send me a message if my 2nd home is having any problems. I think it's a great product
As for falsely turning off an alarm, that's not going to happen. Even if you did turn off the first alarm, if fire was sensed it will go off again. Beats the hell out of being waked up in the middle of the night when a battery is dead and nothing else is wrong. Nest Protect will tell me the battery is low ahead of time and remote send me a message if my 2nd home is having any problems. I think it's a great product
I totally agree with this. I also had/have a separate accounts on YouTube, but now they're aware of each other and it's annoying.
I suspect we could've kept them separate if we'd tried harder, though. They get linked because Google notices things like a common emergency email.
Well, for one thing, they can provide more of what they do now: centrally based services that know enough about us to predict and provide information ahead of time, as with Google Now.
Some people find that idea to be frightening. Others think it's really cool and useful.
What would they "do with it" that's so worrisome? Adjust our thermostat when we head towards home? Put us in an anonymous ad category for better gas or electric prices?
The information they gather is churned by computers, not people. It's kept private. It's not even that detailed, otherwise they'd know when I bought that thing I had searched for online
I can also go to my Google dashboard and turn off and/or delete location history, etc.
Personally, I worry more about the blind sales and charity calls I get on my home phone. Just answering is enough to let them know I'm home... or not. And that's a real person, not a flag in an ad target database.
Google I don't worry about. It's the lesser ad networks and websites that might not worry about selling personal info after I buy something, that are the info leaks that concern me.
Well, for one thing, they can provide more of what they do now: centrally based services that know enough about us to predict and provide information ahead of time, as with Google Now.
Some people find that idea to be frightening. Others think it's really cool and useful.
What would they "do with it" that's so worrisome? Adjust our thermostat when we head towards home? Put us in an anonymous ad category for better gas or electric prices?
The information they gather is churned by computers, not people. It's kept private. It's not even that detailed, otherwise they'd know when I bought that thing I had searched for online
I can also go to my Google dashboard and turn off and/or delete location history, etc.
Personally, I worry more about the blind sales and charity calls I get on my home phone. Just answering is enough to let them know I'm home... or not. And that's a real person, not a flag in an ad target database.
Google I don't worry about. It's the lesser ad networks and websites that might not worry about selling personal info after I buy something, that are the info leaks that concern me.
I know I come off sounding like an alarmist. I love technology and the way it enriches our lives when done right. But to me, Google just gives me a bad feeling. They didn't used to. But things like the Youtube example I gave earlier show me that they want to know as much about you as possible. You and I aren't Google's customer or client, we are their product.
I have the opposite feeling that you do about information churning. Using large, powerful computers that don't have any 'ethical' behavior programmed by design or by omission is more dangerous to me. Try getting in touch with a human at Google sometime when there is a problem like I once had. To be fair, many companies pull crap these days and hide behind voice menus and restrictions of email only contact, etc. to avoid having to hire enough humans to get stuff sorted out. Taking humans out of the loop isn't always a good thing.