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Nest Thermostat Gaining Apple HomeKit Support Starting Today via Matter
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I find it frustrating that Google considers the newest learning thermostat their flagship model and yet they didn’t prioritize support for Matter for it.
And I could never get their thermostat to work with my heating system. I have a bizarre foreign made boiler and a traditional air conditioning system and while the A/C system would work, the boiler system would have unexplained outages and would sometimes work, and then checkout for a while. Nest Support wasn't very supportive. I had three versions of their thermostats and threw them all in a box and ebayed them, the winner getting a heck of a deal. Yeah, I even included the Nest screwdriver. (I'm not that heartless) *shrug*
The winner sent me a note later asking if I really meant to sell them all for what they paid. Oh yes, a thousand times yes. Now the bottom line Honeywell stat works perfectly. Go figure...
EDIT: It has an 'occupancy sensor', and the one in the area where my mom stayed was likely freaked out by all of the motion it was seeing. The A/C stayed on basically 24/7.
Just turn off the schedule and learning features. I don't think the newer version even has the learning feature anyways.
Certainly.
We've had ours for awhile but if I remember correctly, we actually had to turn the "learning" function on. We didn't really like how it did things so we turned it off and everything is done manually.
Not surprised the budget Nest E isn't supported.
But ultimately while I have Homebridge set up, the Nest is the one device I prefer using the built in app instead of Home for. Despite having a bunch of stuff in Home, I just haven't really groked the use case for the thermostat living there yet.
But ultimately while I have Homebridge set up, the Nest is the one device I prefer using the built in app instead of Home for. Despite having a bunch of stuff in Home, I just haven't really groked the use case for the thermostat living there yet.
Yes it does.. you're not obligated to set up any of the automated or energy saving features... I control mine via the google home app and I have it in "dumb' mode where nothing happens unless I manually go in there and change it.
The only version that is supported is the cheapest version (Nest Thermostat for $129). The more expensive Nest Learning Thermostat and Nest Thermostat E are not.
If the current nest thermostat came out in 2020, that would mean a newer model is probably not too far away right? Would hate to buy one now at full price only for something a little bit better to already be on the horizon
Regardless, this is good news and absolutely pushes me towards buying not just a Nest thermostat, but also other Nest accessories. Seems Google is doing the right thing here.
Regardless, this is good news and absolutely pushes me towards buying not just a Nest thermostat, but also other Nest accessories. Seems Google is doing the right thing here.
I have the original Nest thermostat and use Starling Hub for HomeKit integration. It is flawless.
The top of the line Nest Learning Thermostat was last updated in 2015. It's all way overdue for an update. Google loses interest in things all the time.
It's about time! Hopefully Matter starts to mean greater compatibility between various smart home systems, and even more importantly, allows all or most of the control to happen locally on the internal network rather than requiring cloud-based servers on the Internet.
This is one of the main reasons I prefer Homekit compatible stuff; homekit runs 100% locally, and ONLY uses the Internet when it has to, like when you're controlling things from outside your home network.
This is one of the main reasons I prefer Homekit compatible stuff; homekit runs 100% locally, and ONLY uses the Internet when it has to, like when you're controlling things from outside your home network.
The top of the line model also has a thread radio. If they don’t update it it’s pure greed and nothing more. Finally have an excuse to ditch Nest altogether and move to something open out the box.
Google has been saying maybe for months they are waiting to see the fallout before they do anything. They have the update but it will be a bean counter decision of people buying new google devices or ditching google making the decision if the update is released.
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I didn't know that there were new split products based on the learning functionality these days. At least my Es support the remote temperature sensor.
Wondering the same thing! 😭 the article says Nests purchased from 2020…. I’m not hopeful
True. I am very happy with the Nest app. It also works great with Alexa, though only limited and very specific terms will control heat or AC on, temp up or down.
I’m super appreciative the Nest app works well, though. Took a hot minute to figure out how to copy the schedules of days from one to another. THAT was a huge time saver 😅
I agree.
I have the same thought. I choose to use the Apple Home app, and I want all my smart devices to be compatible.
I have patiently waited for Nest, and I have the 'latest' learning thermostat - a few years old sure - but Im disappointed to see only the cheaper newer one is supported.
I told myself that if they do this, and dont immediacy commit to a timeframe to update the older kit.... I will replace my Nest kit with something that is Home compatible... and NOT the cheaper Nest thermostat.
One thing that always concerned me about Matter is that some manufacturers would deliberately use it as a ploy to sell new kit rather than take the time to make their old kit compatible.
The trouble is, that things like Thermostats arent devices that people tend to change on a whim - pre-smart-device thermostats would be in a house for many, many years without ever thinking it needs to be changed.
Only the cheap, new Nest Thermostats are compatible. They're the ones with the touch sensitive bezel that doesn't spin.Wondering the same thing! 😭 the article says Nests purchased from 2020…. I’m not hopeful
Yeah what is the matter with people who think Matter doesn’t matter? 😁
Given Nest's track record, I wouldn't count on it. The Matter spec doesn't even include cameras or doorbells at this point. By the time it's added to the spec whatever you have now will be more than 6 months old, and thus beyond Google giving a crap about.