Nest Update Lets Users Control Smart Thermostat From Their Apple Watch

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Hinted at by the company earlier in the month, Nest recently debuted a minor, but notable, update for its iOS app, introducing a few user interface tweaks and ways to share live videos from the company's indoor and outdoor cameras. For those users with a Nest Thermostat and an Apple Watch, the 5.6.0 update should be of particular interest, since it brings with it the ability to let you adjust the temperature of your home, right from your wrist, without needing to open the iOS app (via The Verge).

    Additionally, there's a new "Spaces" grouping feature that provides an organized way to place Nest products by which room of the house they're in, and lets users view all of their live camera feeds at once, if on Wi-Fi. Additional viewers can be added into these live streams now, as well, thanks to a new web-based site, (which doesn't appear to be up-and-running at the time of writing), where a password can be shared to a trusted third party who might need to check in on the cameras.

    Image via The Verge

    Nest detailed the full list of updates in the App Store:
    Nest has faced a few public-facing appearance issues in the past, centered around the lengthy gaps between product releases, and some software issues with the Nest Protect line of smoke detectors that ultimately led to a product-wide recall. In June, Nest co-founder Tony Fadell announced that he was leaving the company to "create and disrupt other industries," while speculation from workers inside the company suggested many Nest employees "complained publicly about Fadell's management, while claiming the business had missed sales targets, botched upgrades and delayed future products."

    The Nest iOS app can be downloaded from the App Store for free. [Direct Link]

    Article Link: Nest Update Lets Users Control Smart Thermostat From Their Apple Watch
  2. GadgetBen macrumors 6502a


    Jul 8, 2015
    Finally. I've been waiting for this update since the Apple Watch launch
  3. Red Oak macrumors regular

    Jun 14, 2011
  4. hagar macrumors 6502a

    Jan 19, 2008
    Finally! Now introduce an iOS widget (how long can it take?) and release a hardware update to support HomeKit and Nest might become relevant again for Apple users.
  5. Zirel Suspended


    Jul 24, 2015
    No HomeKit = Trash

    EcoBee 3 is vastly superior in more ways than HomeKit integration, at this point, Nest is the MacMini of smart thermostats.
  6. Mac21ND macrumors 6502a


    Jun 6, 2007
    + for EcoBee 3. Works great; love the additional sensors you can add to each room.
  7. Pbrutto macrumors 6502a


    Apr 21, 2015
    Eastern PA
    The biggest deal for longtime users isn't the watch app, it's dropcam pro supporting 1080p. I have only had a dropcam pro for 2 years but I am sure many have had one a little longer. It says ON THE BOX supports 1080p video......that didn't happen till yesterday!!!! Can you imagine an Apple product that said "comes with USB 3.1" but only worked at USB 2.0 speeds for 2 years?
  8. BadMelonFarmer macrumors 6502


    Dec 17, 2010
    North Somerset
    Shame ecobee seems to be US only at this time.

    At least nest has wider market availability
  9. profets macrumors 601

    Mar 18, 2009
    Or how about the Nest Cam, which they advertise as 1080p but then in the app they recommend against running it in 1080p as it tends to overheat.
  10. nt5672 macrumors 68000

    Jun 30, 2007
    Dropped Nest last year. We are very happy with Ecobee and no google prying eyes.
  11. Zirel Suspended


    Jul 24, 2015
    doesn't matter, you have to give them a pass because they are made by a small company called Google, and they only cost $200. /s
  12. cerote macrumors 6502a


    Mar 2, 2009
    Made the switch last year to them from nest. Works so much better.
  13. HailstormX macrumors regular

    Nov 21, 2012
    Wow finally.... Now they just need to release a new model that supports home kit... I have a gen 1 nest and really like it.
  14. 6836838 Suspended

    Jul 18, 2011
  15. cdm283813 macrumors 6502

    Jan 10, 2015
    If you're that paranoid why post? You've already compromised yourself especially in this day and age off hackers and government ease dropping. Heck, why even own a computer or phone for that matter.
    Even your fingerprint is not protected when the government wants information. You forgot everyone but Google.
  16. doelcm82 macrumors 68040


    Feb 11, 2012
    Florida, USA
    That's what King George said about the Boston Tea Party.

    One app on the Apple Watch is not the revolution. But the revolution is happening and this is a small part of it.
  17. GenesisST macrumors 68000


    Jan 23, 2006
    Where I live
    That's the great thing about competition, it gives you choice. I have a nest and I love it and frankly like to spend my gadget money on other new toys rather than changing them. I do understand nt5672's concerns and your opinion; both are entirely valid.
  18. boston04and07 macrumors 65816


    May 13, 2008
    Ehh. Still no HomeKit or Apple TV app...too little too late IMO. When I move soon I'll likely be switching to another brand.
  19. biglipps66 macrumors member

    Mar 11, 2012
    Boy oh boy let me tell you about Nest thermostats. We use them at work, thanks to my stupidity, and have a little over 30 of them. Ive NEVER, and I mean NEVER, have had so many problems with thermostats in my whole life. Ive had to replace 6 of them so far from failures. Software glitches, base problems, twist ring problems, you name it. Spare me the installation questions as well, they've been installed by guys with over 30 years experience.

    I even went as far as talking to them at trade shows and no one ever has an answer for me. It would be nice to just send them back and say "you fix it and send it back", rather than waste my time on them. For most of our guys its cheaper for us to replace them rather than spend time with their terrible tech support.

    Their 3rd generation stats work better, SO FAR, the 2nd generations were massive failures.
  20. Karma*Police macrumors 68000

    Jul 15, 2012
    You'll never get HomeKit. They have to upgrade the hardware to meet Apple's security requirements. I had to upgrade my Philips Hue bridge for that reason. It was totally worth it just for the ability to use Siri on my Apple Watch to control the lights.
  21. 2457282 Suspended

    Dec 6, 2012
    Thanks for all the comments. It seems that EcoBee is the main competitor and has HomeKit integration. I am looking to install a smart thermostat in my home and was not big on Nest because of the lack of HomeKit. Will look at EcoBee now and see what that offers. Are there others that people recommend? On Amazon, I only see eve as a homekit compatible alternative. Thanks all.
  22. profets macrumors 601

    Mar 18, 2009
    Ecobee seems to be highly preferred for HomeKit and it's ability to be expanded into multiple rooms with additional temperature sensors. Few people I know who changed from Nest to Ecobee absolutely love them.
  23. kingtj macrumors 68020

    Oct 23, 2003
    Brunswick, MD
    Yeah... I got very interested in the smart thermostat thing when we bought a house a couple years ago that's 100+ years old and expensive to heat and cool.

    At the time, Nest was still a pretty new (but popular) product. I ran across the EcoBee "Smart Si" thermostat, via an eBay seller, though and it sounded like a better value for the dollar (especially as I needed two; one for an upstairs heat pump and one for a downstairs heat pump).

    Not long after that, my decision was validated when I kept reading reports of Nest thermostats failing in the "stuck on" position. If you left on a 2 week vacation and the relay on the circuit board failed, it could result in your furnace or A/C running continuously until you returned! Not acceptable!

    I've upgraded our house to the Ecobee 3 with remote sensors, and they're great units. (I've had Apple Watch control for them for quite a while now. Can't believe Nest is just NOW getting around to that?)

    I will say, though? I think the smart thermostats probably ALL have failure rates much higher than we're used to with traditional "programmable thermostats", simply because they're a lot more complex. They've got wi-fi radios in them to connect to the Internet and much more.

    I had an Ecobee Smart Si that I had to get replaced because something was defective on its circuit board that prevented my heat pump from turning on in one mode of operation. That would have been really tough to troubleshoot if I hadn't already bought a spare unit to swap in and out with it for testing purposes. (The behaviors looked exactly like what would happen if I had mis-wired something.)

    And with the Ecobee 3 thermostats? I had a lot of problems for a while with them losing contact with the remote temperature sensors. Every day, I was getting random warnings of one disconnecting for an hour or two and then coming back online. I tried fresh batteries and moving the sensors around.... nothing worked. I think only a firmware update from Ecobee finally resolved it.

  24. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    I wonder how Nest is doing without Tony Fadell around. Nice to see Nest pair with the Apple Watch.
  25. nt5672 macrumors 68000

    Jun 30, 2007
    I certainly hope that you don't professionally have to use any kind of logic, because that statement is surely lacking any.

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