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Netflix CEO Says Apple TV+ and Disney+ Will Create 'A Whole New World' of 'Tough Competition'
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Thanks for the input. Was three now two.
Cord cutting, a la carte, the ideal. Example music streaming today except for video. Appears no way it will happen.
What I witnessed using Netflix as an example. Viewing had peaks and valleys. Why not in the valleys hit the stop button and pick up another channel for awhile. Like watching football, it’s time, except self imposed for the over the top services. Yes agreements need to be made. The rewards, always something good on and savings. The services I am suggesting have a significant amount of content. Might have to wait a bit for GOT but will get viewed.
Now if a service has no valleys, then keep it going. Others I found have significant valleys. My point Was ideally 12 channels. If only four meet ones needs then rotate those. Cord cutting is not a different form of media delivery the point. If all one does is change the delivery method, why? Cord cutting is on/off and involves customer interaction with savings and greater content offerings.
Disney+ will most certainly be competition. I doubt they're worried about Apple.
I used my D23 and paid 153.38 for 3 yrs I’d Disney+ which puts me at 4.26 a month. Not bad. I’ll keep Netflix. Get Hulu for free from sprint and now Apple TV for a year with my 11 Pro purchase.
I doubt I’ll keep Apple TV+ but at least I’ll have a year to try
I doubt I’ll keep Apple TV+ but at least I’ll have a year to try
Disney is in no way worried about Apple. With all the content on a Disney and they can put all their adult content on Hulu and with ESPN+ they will be ok.
hopefully with all these services each company puts out great product year after year
If Netflix was smarter, they would start spreading out their content on weekly cycles to keep people on their service. They are hurting themselves by releasing full seasons at once and having people binge watch them over 2-3 days, then cancelling their service. If they did that, they wouldn’t have to spend as much money creating so much content so quickly. That would reduce the need for them to raise their prices so often.
When he said he wasn’t concerned about Disney sometime ago I said he should’ve been fired and now all of a sudden they’re competition.
I think this post and another that discusses ease of subscribing and unsubscribing get close to the heart of the issue. People don't mind investing funds if the content is what they want. It isn't about the $30 or $40. It's about having what you want.
I really believe a large number of services - with quality content - could exist in the $4.99 - $7.99 a month range with HD and in the $7.99 - $9.99 range with full 4k HDR content. Netflix wanting $13.99 a month for 4k is just too high.
I'd pay for Prime and 2 or 3 others for sure to have content I want instead of some bum package...
Me, a week ago:
Spectrum cable service (TimeWarner Signature Home, so basically I had all of the channels, including movie channels) with 350 Mbps down / 20 Mbps up, Netflix, Amazon Prime
Me, as of tomorrow:
AT&T Fiber (1000 Mbps down / 1000 Mbps up), Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu (just for specific TV channels, including ESPN), Apple TV-based subscriptions to HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, STARZ!, Epix
Me, mid-November:
AT&T Fiber, Amazon Prime, Hulu, all those movie channels, Disney+
Even with all of these changes, I will still be saving something like $100 a month over my current cable bill (not including Netflix or Amazon Prime).
We are finally moving to an a là carte future, folks -- no more onerous cable packages that force you to pay for stuff you don't want. Spectrum is losing my business because they refused to allow me to increase my Internet speed to gigabit without moving to a whole new package that would have caused me to not be able to use a digital converter box on my kitchen TV anymore. This is the equivalent of forcing me to buy a big steak, rather than a smaller one, if I want Béarnaise sauce with it.
Spectrum cable service (TimeWarner Signature Home, so basically I had all of the channels, including movie channels) with 350 Mbps down / 20 Mbps up, Netflix, Amazon Prime
Me, as of tomorrow:
AT&T Fiber (1000 Mbps down / 1000 Mbps up), Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu (just for specific TV channels, including ESPN), Apple TV-based subscriptions to HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, STARZ!, Epix
Me, mid-November:
AT&T Fiber, Amazon Prime, Hulu, all those movie channels, Disney+
Even with all of these changes, I will still be saving something like $100 a month over my current cable bill (not including Netflix or Amazon Prime).
We are finally moving to an a là carte future, folks -- no more onerous cable packages that force you to pay for stuff you don't want. Spectrum is losing my business because they refused to allow me to increase my Internet speed to gigabit without moving to a whole new package that would have caused me to not be able to use a digital converter box on my kitchen TV anymore. This is the equivalent of forcing me to buy a big steak, rather than a smaller one, if I want Béarnaise sauce with it.
Net Neutrality has nothing to do with data caps. That depends entirely on the competitiveness of your local market for Internet service. Folks in Cincinnati have never seen caps because we've always had two highly competitive providers: the local phone company, Cincinnati Bell, that has built fiber (and gigabit service) to 75%+ of the market and Spectrum/Time Warner. They've been battling over high-speed Internet customers since the 90's.
I know I'm not typical, but what I value most about Netflix is their extensive catalog of non-English language programming. 90% of what I watch on Netflix is in French (60%) or Spanish (30%). I'm skeptical that I'm going to find that on Disney or AppleTV+, whereas it is part of of Netflix's business model to produce and buy shows globally and then dub and caption them for other markets. It's not their intent, but I love that the result allows an American to watch a Danish/Korean/Brazilian show in French. (And there are a fair number of French and Belgian shows natively in French and Spanish and Latin American shows natively in Spanish.)
I can’t remember the last time I watched something on Netflix. Cancelling wont be a problem.
Netflix is looking more and more expensive in this crowded market.
By next year, we will have:
At the very least, Netflix should offer UHD across all 3 pricing tiers AND stop increasing price every 18 months. Offer annual plan with discount.
Netflix should also work harder with partners on bundling. Recent $2/month price hike for qualifying T-Mobile ONE customers should've been avoided.
By next year, we will have:
- Amazon Prime Video: $8.99/month, $12.99/month or $119/year with Amazon Prime, UHD 3 streams
- Apple TV+: $4.99/month, UHD 6 streams
- CBS All Access: $5.99/month, 1080p 2 streams
- Disney+: $6.99/month or $69.99/year, UHD 4 streams
- HBO Max: TBD, but HBO Now is $14.99/month, 1080p 3 streams
- Hulu: $5.99/month with ads, $11.99/month without ads, UHD 1 stream
- NBC Peacock: TBD, possibly free with ads if you are a Comcast customer
- Netflix: $8.99/month for 480p single stream, $12.99/month for 1080p 2 streams, $15.99/month for UHD 4 streams
At the very least, Netflix should offer UHD across all 3 pricing tiers AND stop increasing price every 18 months. Offer annual plan with discount.
Netflix should also work harder with partners on bundling. Recent $2/month price hike for qualifying T-Mobile ONE customers should've been avoided.
Duopoly has a part in it. But truth be told Net Neutrality stifled profits for these scumbag cable companies which is why they got rid of it by putting in the former Verizon chairman in the FCC. I said Net Neutrality 2 for a reason. To better write laws against Duopolies.
Convinced our household to cut the cord and sign up for Netflix. Hulu too, and those ads are annoying so paying extra for no ads.. Ok HBO Go, that's fine. Dinsey Plus, yes gotta have that.. Amazon Prime Video? Well we have Prime so might as well install the app. Apple TV+? Free for a year with a new device so now we have that too. Wait, what do you mean The Office is leaving Netflix to stream on Peacock? And CBS has something called All Access? Ok maybe cord cutting wasn't a solution after all..
There is no way I could get away with telling my girlfriend 'oh yea, sorry, we don't have netflix this month. I canceled it (put on hold). I got disney plus this month for a couple of series I think we'd like.. we'll have netflix again in 2 weeks after I cancel this.'
I feel you on that.. same here for what she's watching on TLC
I've been trying to figure out if it makes sense for her to just buy a 'season pass' on iTunes for those 3-4 shows. Might be cheaper than a full live tv sub each and every month.We just tried dropping DirecTV and going the streaming route by trying YTTV for two week. It worked great, minus the DVR function which does not work like a normal DVR. In any case, I also switched to COX Gigablast (1000down/35up) with data cap of 1TB. Because of the streaming using data and would go over 1TB, we would have to pay an extra $50/mo for Unlimited Data from COX. That, plus the cost of YTTV is about $100. I was able to strike a deal with ATT and got our DirecTV service down to below $90, so for us, it made sense to stick with what we have.
We have no competition in San Diego (unless you consider ATT competition), because the big 2 (COX and Spectrum) do not cohabitate in the same areas. Someone drew a line through San Diego and Spectrum gets the top half and COX gets the bottom half. It sucks. So while Spectrum doesn't do data caps, crappy COX does.
I would love to get ATT Fiber 1000/1000, but it's nowhere to be found here.
Agreed. This definitely doesn’t work for a family of four. Hell, the streaming services make most of the money off us based on the time we spend surfing through the content for an hour before we give up on movie night and settle on watching yet another episode of Bobs Burgers.
Because I am an AT&T mobile customer, the first year is $60 / month -- $80 / month after that. This is UNLIMITED data -- no caps.
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Check the d23.com site to see if that 3 year deal for $140 is still there. If it isn't, I know I saw an offer yesterday at the DisneyMovieClub site for 3 years at a slightly higher price per year. Still a great deal.