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The point the poster was making was that users would fine the iPhone viewing experience to be superior, if they upped the resolution, and my argument was the one you yourself are acknowledging -- that on an already-retina display, upping the resolution and keeping the screen size the same, when the phone is held at the same distance, really won't make a difference.

That is correct. At 300ppi that's print resolution. Any better than that is pointless. The pixels are indiscernable. There is no more resolution to be had. 720p at the same screen size would just triple the data rate and look exactly the same. And you possibly decrease the quality of video that isn't 720p. Although pixels wouldn't be discernable, it would still be softer if you had to up res a 480p image to 720p.
 
Firefly sucks, but most things do once you've seen Star Trek :D


Agreed.

I was going to add a Star Trek reference to my original comment but decided against it.

I'm a huge Trek fan myself. For me, Star Trek exists from TOS-Nemesis. I finally got through all of Enterprise this past summer and it was awesome and definitely needed at least one more season.... Oh, and I am one of those trek fans that does not count the series finale in the holodeck as the actual finale to a great series.

Lastly, the Abrams reboot is NOT Star Trek and is utter garbage.
 
Netflix in stunning widescreen HD is just another reason why iPhone is better than any Android phone.

uh, the screen on my Galaxy Nexus was larger and the picture looked better imo (which is weird because I think my iphone 5 is the best phone screen I've ever used/seen otherwise).

Anyways, does anyone else have a little black border all around the picture? I don't notice this on the homescreen or elsewhere, but I have it on netflix. It's very thin, but it is there.

*edit*
nm, it's always there.
 
True. But even though I have a fairly high-end system with custom in-wall surround, etc, I ditched the Blu-Ray shortly after buying it (as an early adopter) because it just wasn't worth the hassle of storing and managing a physical disc library. I find that with streaming content, I am much more likely to watch various shows than if I have to hunt down a disc and wait for it to spin up. Just too much trouble. Although you are correct, the video quality is excellent. Just not a big enough deal for me.
I completely agree with you that storing and managing a disc library is something that I'm happy to do without. Physical discs can be scratched or broken (get lost), and living in the city, space is at a premium.
However calling Blu-ray -a format that offers superior image and audio quality- an "outdated technology" is excessive.
Also for people living in areas where high speed connection are not available or are severely capped, physical discs are clearly the only option.
 
Facebook [... was] updated on day one.

To be fair, the Facebook app is just one big scrollview/webview. The scrollview/webview just needed to be scaled to the new screensize and boom, it's done. Heck, they probably just resized the parent view and had IB auto-adjust all their sub-views in about 2 seconds.

At most, they had to redo the blue splash screen. Probably took them less time than it took me to redo my custom self-made wallpaper, which was about 10 minutes using my old .psd file.

Finally, their app being just a big "browser", it can easily be test with just the simulator. No snazzy multi-touch gestures there, no custom input code, no sensor usage (the scenarios are limited with the simulator, really need device testing for those).

Some apps are much more complicated, have much more custom art to redo, not to mention UI layouts that can't just be scaled, use the phone sensors to their fullest, and have some fairly complex gesture support. Those are going to take more work and as was said, we got the iPhone 5 enabled Xcode pretty late, not to mention the phone was announced on the 12th and even iPod Touch devices were not available quickly for testing.

You really have to have done some iOS work to understand how this can be a 5 minute fix, like it can be a couple of months of work, if it's even worth bothering to do in the first place (I can bet you a lot of older apps just won't update at all, works perfectly letterboxed).

I completely agree with you that storing and managing a disc library is something that I'm happy to do without.

I'm the opposite really. I really like managing and manipulating the physical discs. All the boxes sitting neatly organized on the shelf bring color and contrast to the decor, opening the movie, looking at the disc before inserting it, it's all a nice experience to me somehow. Just streaming crap from my NAS isn't the same, it's like a cheap thrill, it's not "sitting down to watch something", not even close.

Not to mention Netflix's canadian selection sucks.
 
That is correct. At 300ppi that's print resolution. Any better than that is pointless. The pixels are indiscernable. There is no more resolution to be had. 720p at the same screen size would just triple the data rate and look exactly the same. And you possibly decrease the quality of video that isn't 720p. Although pixels wouldn't be discernable, it would still be softer if you had to up res a 480p image to 720p.

A 720p video needs to be downscaled to fit the iPhone 5 screen. That's one thing. A 4" 16:9 display at 300 ppi might not let you notice the missing details, but it'll also be quite a small screen to watch video on. You'll probably thus hold it a bit closer than the 12" distance required for "Retina effect" and negate such an effect in the first place.

Also, you'll still have to upscale (not up res, that's not even a term) 480p video since the iPhone 5 screen is a 640p screen. Upscaling also doesn't really "decrease the quality", quite the contrary. There are many different scaling algorithms, some of which go from "indiscernable from the source" to really much higher quality images.
 
Who here agree with me that KayLee (Jewel Staite) is HOT!!!

Let's not forget Christina Hendricks:

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I was more of an Inara fan personally...although all of the women on Firefly/Serenity were hot. Even the weird robot girl Mr Universe had haha

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I'm glad Netflix got on the iPhone 5 compatibility wagon quickly. Still waiting on a ton of other updates:

- Angry Birds
- Real Racing 2
- NPR News
- BBC News
- AP News
- Dictionary.com
- Flight Track Pro
- Vimeo
- Pandora
- Youtube
- Dropbox
- Sketchbook Mobile
- Mint.com

and the list goes on...
 
movies still letterbox

On the 3.5" screen, Netflix has to waste pixels by letterboxing so the video fits on the non-16:9 screen. Not only is the screen bigger, but it's now using all of the pixels.

HD television is 16x9 - most movies are wider screen and will letterbox on a 16x9 display (unless stretched or cropped).
 
HD television is 16x9 - most movies are wider screen and will letterbox on a 16x9 display (unless stretched or cropped).

All of the Netflix content appears to be 16:9 even though the actual movies they play in theaters are wider.
 
Im looking forward to dropping cable soon and picking up another apple tv. I l dont get to watch much tv but i love supernaturals, and smallville, I hear alot about firefly, alphas and mad men. I need to check them out.
 
Definitely! She's vvveeerrryyyy pretty :D;)

I use Netflix, I have found the content to be pretty good for the money and that's here in the UK where we get less then the US! So great to see this update. One reason I love Netflix is the fax it works on almost any electronic device ever made!! Well a lot of the current devices anyway haha.

I live in USA with British husband, he loves the selection off BBC programs on Netfilx here in USA.
 
I'm the opposite really. I really like managing and manipulating the physical discs. All the boxes sitting neatly organized on the shelf bring color and contrast to the decor, opening the movie, looking at the disc before inserting it, it's all a nice experience to me somehow. Just streaming crap from my NAS isn't the same, it's like a cheap thrill, it's not "sitting down to watch something", not even close.

Not to mention Netflix's canadian selection sucks.
If that's any consolation, Netflix's Japanese selection sucks even more (Netflix isn't available in Japan).

Also, living in Japan where space in homes is very limited, shelves filled with DVD boxes isn't really getting the best possible use of space.
Beyond that, experience has taught me that physical discs (and disc players) hate food, kids, pets and clumsy people. So far, I have to say that my remote (and Apple TV) has been holding its own against these hazards pretty well.
 
No, and I don't have any other outdated technologies such as Super 8, cassette tapes or 8-Tracks.

Does anyone really still use physical media? Seriously?
Ok, I'm not going to restart the bluray thread here. But I have a 90" screen. You don't still use those tiny 40" screens anymore, do you? How outdated.

Netflix is great for where streaming is necessary. But at home, it can't keep up with the "outdated" 1080p24 found on most BDs. (to say nothing of the outdated audio Netflix provides) I promise to let you know when it can. I have 3 devices connected to my HT that can play Netflix.

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:D Funny, I only came here to comment on Firefly.

Serenity is the title of the first 2 episodes.

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Blu Ray is pointless and overpriced when there is Netflix and such.
You shouldn't limit yourself.
 
I used the iphone for a while yesterday. The added screen real estate adds nothing to the experience IMO, at least for other things than movies.
macrumors shows more articles at any one time, not a big deal...
but now i can't reach for the messages app (top left hand corner, I'm right handed), without using my other hand, or shuffling one handedly to position the phone so that my thumb can reach it. I can see myself dropping the phone often this way.
The only thing I want is the A6 chip, but even then, the jump in performance over the A5 isn't as noticeable on day to day apps, as was the jump between the A4 to the A5 - (although i'd imagine photo editing apps would shine on the 5, i auto enhanced a photo and it was REALLY quick).
Not sure if this worth the upgrade from a 4S just yet. I jumped from the 3gs to the 4...but this time around this 'S' series jump isnt worth it IMO.
 
A 720p video needs to be downscaled to fit the iPhone 5 screen. That's one thing. A 4" 16:9 display at 300 ppi might not let you notice the missing details, but it'll also be quite a small screen to watch video on. You'll probably thus hold it a bit closer than the 12" distance required for "Retina effect" and negate such an effect in the first place.

Also, you'll still have to upscale (not up res, that's not even a term) 480p video since the iPhone 5 screen is a 640p screen. Upscaling also doesn't really "decrease the quality", quite the contrary. There are many different scaling algorithms, some of which go from "indiscernable from the source" to really much higher quality images.

Up res is not a term, hmmm... I'm a consultant for some of the larger broadcasters on the planet, and up-res is definitely a term that is used. Widely. To mean taking, say, SD video, and upscale it to HD resolution.
 
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