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With the latest price increase, we downgraded to Basic for $10 plus tax. Given our set is only 720p, there's no difference is display quality, just a savings. We should have done much sooner.

If many others downgraded, too, there's another source of revenue loss for Netflix!

Its interface still beats the others, such as ACORN TV and the terribly designed, and poorly functioning, BritBox.
 
I quit with those greedy bastards years ago after they hiked the price twice within a year. Haven't looked back. No regrets. Just glad to see their corporate greed is coming home to roost, and I hope it keeps roosting for quite some time.
 
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What does this mean for Apple TV+?

I think it was a mistake for Apple to get into the business of content creation.

If $AAPL shakes out, the indexes are going to get pummeled.

Apple has enough money to sustain TV+ indefinitely, and I think it has value as a way of getting people to open the TV app (and purchasing other shows and channels). I also believe Apple One will also go a long way of reducing churn (I wonder how many people pay for it but never use Apple Arcade or TV+).

It also puts into context all the previous “Apple should acquire Netflix” arguments. There is little value which Netflix provides to Apple as an organisation. I don’t think Netflix is doomed, but the idea that Netflix is this unstoppable juggernaut is really starting to show its holes.
 
I was about to start a thread on general user comments about 'Why I'm not on Netflix'.

Ever since I was aware of the list of movies that they were dropping 'forever', it was like a shopping list of movies that I loved, or that I haven't seen, and really should see.

And they are 'gone'.

So many top quality amazing movies, gone. I have a Mac Mini I use for a server and have movies I feel are 'must haves', and some of them have appeared on the Netflix lists.

'Why should I pay for a service that seems to continually drop movies I like.'

So I don't...

Disney+ has all of the old Dean Jones movies. Like REALLY OLD movies...
 
With the latest price increase, we downgraded to Basic for $10 plus tax. Given our set is only 720p, there's no difference is display quality, just a savings. We should have done much sooner.

If many others downgraded, too, there's another source of revenue loss for Netflix!

Its interface still beats the others, such as ACORN TV and the terribly designed, and poorly functioning, BritBox.

FYI, you can subscribe to Acorn TV & Britbox through the Apple TV app - it then uses the native UI.
I’ve personally done that, and along with using Paramount Plus via that method, it works flawlessly.

I also canceled my Netflix subscription today after auditing my family’s viewing history. Barely any content worth watching on Netflix anymore, though I’ll probably renew for a week once Stranger Things 3 comes out, just to close that loop.
$20 for 4K streaming is patently ridiculous.
 
Quality > quantity ...Netflix has chosen ''quantity'' path for years. As much as they have helped me watching foreign productions like the Korean series Kingdom pretty much most content is trash. Also they are not alone anymore.
As a LONG time Netflix user (since 2004?) I also have lately been focusing on these unknown (to me) Korea mini-series, since I've seen most of the US/western content that is of interest to me.

I have to say I really enjoy Korean production quality - as I photographer I LOVE the cinematic feel and composition of most of these "less-expensive" shows. And as long as you can laugh at the mandatory love-triangle, they explore lots of complex and difficult issues (i.e. the huge korean adoption rates for children born to single mothers, with the subsequent empotional wreckage that resulted).
 
I'm afraid you have a very narrow concept of marketing strategy, and market signals specifically. When 100 million customers are synthesizing a product package, it's not "stealing"; it's the company just misreading the market. Netflix bundles and price tiers are such a huge miss that people are constructing their own packaging to provide sufficient value. If Netflix cuts those options without making other options available, such as by unbundling multiple streams and quality tiers, all they are going to do is lose customers, and revenue. They will not make it up. Netflix, with their policy of binge releasing, is frankly the easiest service to cut back to cyclic subscribing. This is me talking from 30 years of product marketing strategy experience. Now, in my case, I'm a year round high quality subscriber, but if Netflix just starts cutting into my travel viewing options or bars me from gifting a streams to one of my kids, without providing other value or flexibility, I'm cutting back to 3 months per year. That would then provide me the best value. I'm sure I'm not alone. I doubt a significant number of satellite users on multi-stream accounts have the means to start signing up for their own accounts, frankly. It would not surprise me if the vast majority are either struggling young adults or barely interested secondary users just latching onto a primary.
Yes. If it was $8 a month for 1 or 2 streams, our extended family would have 3 subscriptions. At $20 for 4, we share one.

It was the same thing with family plan phone service. Very few people needed 4 lines in one actual family. So instead of attacking customers for sharing outside the the family, they created friends AND family plans or more reasonable single line plans, or both.
 
Quantity over quality is why I abandoned Netflix. Along with increased pricing and a horrible user experience - like the changing poster artwork, which makes it impossible to recognize any titles you potentially would like to see. They need to re-invent themselves.
So true.

I like to rerun arrested development while I work on plans. They have so many thumbnail posters for it it’s never easy to find. Some posters have Ben Stiller, a minor character, featured. I “wonder” who made that choice?
 
I must be the only person in my extended family that actually pays a subscription, everyone else shares someone else's account. I have cancelled my subscription partly due to the fact that most new releases are aimed at a certain demographic and I am not one of them, yes I am an old fart. Can you imagine hiring a car and telling the hire company you want all your family to be able to drive the car during the hire period, See how much the hire cost rises accordingly?.
In Florida, you can do just that. Up to 9 drivers! So…
 
I canceled my subscription, I started back in 2014 and it was only $12. I got my first 4K TV and upgraded my subscription just to view the 4K Sample video that was pretty much the only "True" 4K content Netflix had at the time. I told myself with the last price hike that this would be it. Netflix just doesn't release any good content anymore, sure they have a good movie one or twice a year but that just doesn't justify the $20 a month to me.

Look at the latest TV show they just released "Is it Cake" where people have to decide if an object is a real cake or not, Probably one of the dumbest shows I've seen, instead of Netflix greenlighting what seems to be any show that is brought before them, they need to focus on producing few but much higher quality shows. Right now they have just been shot gunning and seeing what sticks, Bet you that will save them some money and not have to hike up our rates.

Hopefully, with them losing customers like this they will rethink their strategy, but I doubt it, especially with Stranger Things Part 1 coming around the corner people will be back, at least temporarily and then they can boost to their investors how they have had a boom in subscribers etc.
 
What does this mean for Apple TV+?

I think it was a mistake for Apple to get into the business of content creation.

If $AAPL shakes out, the indexes are going to get pummeled.
Actually, very little. Apple is probably treating it like a "loss leader" considering they make way more money from hardware sales. But Apple, unlike Netflix, has a a huge cash reserve, so they could afford to make high quality TV series for Apple TV+.

Now, Apple buying out Netflix may not be such a bad idea in the long run, because Netflix can finally tap into Apple's massive financial resources.
 
That show was beyond terrible. Could it have been done better? Shows like Firefly and Farscape and movies like Guardians of the Galaxy (itself largely influenced by Farscape) show that it was definitely possible. It was a poorly executed cosplay parody of the source material.
I liked. It’s base on a cartoon it’s ok, yes it could have been better but we didn’t even meet the whole cast.
 
It was the recent price increase! I am on the edge of cancelling mine if they don’t improve quality of shows or increase again anytime soon. i share account with my orderly father, it Keeps him company since he had to stop working. If Netflix cease the sharing, it just means he will suffer, he won’t be able to afford it and i Can’t pay anymore Either.
 
Netflix is certainly not what it used to be. Lack of quality content is my main issue. We are longtime subscribers and we have watched the service decline over the last several years. Once Ozark part 2 airs we will cancel.
 
Netflix's content is awful. There are rando free-agent people on YouTube who come up with more entertaining content than what's on Netflix.
 
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Nope. What's really happening: the various large media companies are setting up their own streaming services (e.g. Peacock, Paramount+ and the current Hulu) and taking away streaming rights that used to belong to Netflix. As such, Netflix has less new content to stream.
Yes, obviously. But TT has definitely taken time away from people's downtime... leaving less time for streaming services like Netflix.
 
I subscribe to streaming services for 1 month at a time when there is something I really want to watch. Haven’t subscribed to Netflix since maybe Stranger things Season 1. I mostly check out movies from the library. They are free, and there are many decades worth of the highest caliber content.
 
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Personally, we cancelled simply because we needed to save money each month and although we like Netflix it was the easiest thing to select to let go of.
If and when times get better we may subscribe again.
As time goes by one can do without viewing a lot of content as it goes subscriber based!!
 
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