Netflix's Limited Free Access Works on Mac and iPad, but Not iPhone

[Samut]

Regardles of whether this is related to avoidance of 30 percent cut Apple takes. How would everyone feel if back in the days Visa, Mastercard and other large companies would have enforced 30 percent cut on every payment made by their cards.

As the payments platforms are evolving this is basically what Apple is trying to do.

 

[cmaier]

Regardles of whether this is related to avoidance of 30 percent cut Apple takes. How would everyone feel if back in the days Visa, Mastercard and other large companies would have enforced 30 percent cut on every payment made by their cards.

As the payments platforms are evolving this is basically what Apple is trying to do.

Apple is not just a payment processor. Stop that.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Apple is not just a payment processor. Stop that.

Maybe Apple will be forced to open up to third party payment processors, and to reduce their cut to 28-29% or so without payment processing.

I wonder who can match or beat Apple’s price?

 

[SD449]

I am curious if request desktop site works. Second thought, if you are a subscriber of netflix can you log in on the mobile site and still watch or is that not possible? If you can do that then Netflix blocking iOS users is completely deliberate and also I think I am on Netflix side completely if so because they are not violating any app store policy with this.

Tried both and it appears to work but just stays on the buffering circle so doesn’t actually work

Also when logging in after requesting desktop I got an email saying new loggin on device desktop so I assume there is some limitation on mobile Safari

 

[sw1tcher]

As a consumer, I want Ms. Maisel to be available on Netflix, should I sue Netflix.

The point you're overlooking is while "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel" isn't available on Netflix, it is available for you to watch.

With an app, if it's not available on Apple's app store, there's no other place for an iOS device user to get it.

 

[I7guy]

The point you're overlooking is while "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel" isn't available on Netflix, it is available for you to watch.

With an app, if it's not available on Apple's app store, there's no other place for an iOS device user to get it.

The court has not ruled that illegal, where ios has a monopoly on it's own products and services. The app is available on android.

 

[Bayshun]

There are a lot of assumptions in this thread about App Store policies having something to do with Netflix not being available on iOS. What has led people to this conclusion?

 

[Apple_Robert]

Not interested in getting a constant reminder to subscribe. Trying to make sure of free limited isn’t worth my time.

 

[ruka.snow]

Regardles of whether this is related to avoidance of 30 percent cut Apple takes. How would everyone feel if back in the days Visa, Mastercard and other large companies would have enforced 30 percent cut on every payment made by their cards.

As the payments platforms are evolving this is basically what Apple is trying to do.

Apple's 30% cut is not just for payments, they are not Stripe. But sure they can drop to 28/29% and let you pay the 2.4% + $0.50 per transaction + work out where to pay VAT/Sales Tax and pay it on time to each region of the world + the monthly fee and deal with having your account suspended for a bit when some kid empties their parents credit card on ebucks.

Also feel free to pay a AWS and a CDN of your choice $2000 a month for hosting the binary and assets and then pay a developer to make you a licensing server and the associated hosting costs.

 

[Realityck]

Amid an increasingly competitive video streaming market, free access to selected Netflix programming hopes to attract more subscribers to the platform.

Does Netflix need more subscribers?

 

[derekamoss]

Tried both and it appears to work but just stays on the buffering circle so doesn’t actually work

Also when logging in after requesting desktop I got an email saying new loggin on device desktop so I assume there is some limitation on mobile Safari

hmmm thats a little wild. I don't know what apple would do that would prevent safari on iOS from doing that considering iPadOS allows it too. Yes I know the Safari Browser on iOS and iPadOS are "different" but it can't be by that much, they still both support the same codecs and the same html5.

 

[JosephAW]

Just allow us to watch Netflix in safari on iOS and problem is solved.

 

[TracesOfArsenic]

no doubt there's some 'rule' somewhere in the ios store preventing this

If there is a rule I'm sure there's another rule that says they're not allowed to say why they can't explain themselves.

 

[Marlon DLTH :)]

Can’t be related to Apple’s App Store policies. Remember iPadOS is basically iOS anyway (it was until last year) same App Store, same rules.

iPadOS uses a desktop-like browser, that’s why it’s allowed on it.

However, the iPad’s Netflix app doesn’t have this option either. So yes, it’s related to App Store policies.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Netflix still hasn’t explained? I’m sure people really want that one free episode of a handful of series.

 

[Dking02]

This is certainly the future of Netflix, free-mium content with ads.

Reading is fundamental. The article stately clears that the first episodes of select series are only available. Netflix is hoping you like a show enough to sign up for a membership.

 

[Dking02]

Maybe Apple will be forced to open up to third party payment processors, and to reduce their cut to 28-29% or so without payment processing.

I wonder who can match or beat Apple’s price?

Epic store only takes 5-12%

Netflix still hasn’t explained? I’m sure people really want that one free episode of a handful of series.

Its common sense to get people to sign up for a membership duh.

 

[Dking02]

Just allow us to watch Netflix in safari on iOS and problem is solved.

Why? So they’ll have to end up having 30% of Netflix membership going to Apple?

 

[PickUrPoison]

Epic store only takes 5-12%

Its common sense to get people to sign up for a membership duh.

1) I’m talking about an alternate future where Apple might be forced to allow alternate payment processors for checking out of the App Store.

Apple could unbundle App Store payment processing from the rest of iPhone features. So customers could check out with Apple or another payment processor. (I’m just using 2% as an example, maybe it’s less?)

28% Misc Apple dev fees
2% payment processing fee
———
30% Total share due to Apple
70% Developer share

The thing is, if a developer includes an alternate payment processor, and it charges more than 2%, the excess fees would come out of the developer’s 70% cut, not Apple’s 28%

2) Yes everyone understands it’s a sales promo. The question is why it doesn’t work with Safari on the iOS/iPhone.

Does Netflix not want any signups from iPhone customers?

 

[PSeg90]

Reading is fundamental. The article stately clears that the first episodes of select series are only available. Netflix is hoping you like a show enough to sign up for a membership.

@Dking02 Excuse yourself, but I read the entire article and was purely elaborating that this is just the beginning; the future of Netflix will be free-meium with ads instead of the 3 pricing plans they currently market.

Also, your grammar is incorrect. You meant to say "The article clearly states...". But then again, reading is fundamental, right?

 

[Dking02]

1) I’m talking about an alternate future where Apple might be forced to allow alternate payment processors for checking out of the App Store.

Apple could unbundle App Store payment processing from the rest of iPhone features. So customers could check out with Apple or another payment processor. (I’m just using 2% as an example, maybe it’s less?)

28% Misc Apple dev fees
2% payment processing fee
———
30% Total share due to Apple
70% Developer share

The thing is, if a developer includes an alternate payment processor, and it charges more than 2%, the excess fees would come out of the developer’s 70% cut, not Apple’s 28%

2) Yes everyone understands it’s a sales promo. The question is why it doesn’t work with Safari on the iOS/iPhone.

Does Netflix not want any signups from iPhone customers?

iOS can still sign up thru Netflix site of course. Netflix doesn’t want the 30% Apple tax. I signed up for Hulu , Netflix, Spotify, and YouTube premium outside of the App Store. There’s no reason for Apple to get a 30% cut.

 

[PickUrPoison]

iOS can still sign up thru Netflix site of course. Netflix doesn’t want the 30% Apple tax. I signed up for Hulu , Netflix, Spotify, and YouTube premium outside of the App Store. There’s no reason for Apple to get a 30% cut.

Well it’s available on iPadOS.

Anyway we’re talking about watching the free Netflix content in-browser, not in the app. Netflix can sign up customers there without paying Apple a dime.

It works in Safari on iPadOS but not iOS. No one (apparently) knows why Netflix chose to do that, but it’s their call 🤷‍♂️

 

[Stella]

The content does not change between a bigger screen than a smaller one. iPhones have lovely crisp OLED screens with good contrast and deeper blacks than a iPad or most televisions. There is no clear and definitive one is better than the other, nor should there be. No TV show or movie gets magically better on a bigger screen.

Of course the content doesn’t change :-/. But the viewing experience does.

People like to replicate a great cinema experience by watching on a larger screen , rather than a small phone sized screen.
Your assertion about evidence of one not being better than the other is just plain BS, wishful thinking. Fine you prefer watching on a phone but that’s your personal preference.