netscape 8 coming for mac?

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by maxterpiece, May 2, 2005.

  1. maxterpiece macrumors 6502a


    Mar 5, 2003
    As irrelevant as they may be at this point in time, Netscape recently released Netscape 8.0 for windows. I still have a soft spot for netscape from way back when it was them and IE (and from before IE even existed). Plus, if i'm not mistaken, it was their decision to open source netscape that started Mozilla which eventually led to our beloved firefox. Anyway, I was somewhat startled to discover that Netscape did not release a beta for OS X.... yet.

    Does anyone know if/when it might be coming?

  2. mcarvin macrumors regular

    Oct 26, 2003
    Southern NJ
    Don't hold your breath. One big feature that Netscape is pushing is the usage of the Trident engine alongside the native Gecko engine. Does anyone think that MS will allow this high-value core technology to be ported to the Mac? If I'm wrong, then I can say farewell to VPC 7.

    Best hope is that a version of NS8 sans Trident will be made available for Mac, and that's even a long shot. Either way, it is a horrid little browser and you are not missing anything. I've been using the beta (just upgraded to 8.0 yesterday) for months doing random compatibility testing at work, and I have to tell you this - For all of the really bad UI implementations Windows has to offer, this makes them look really good.

    Safari defaults to 4 buttons, an addy bar and a google bar. OmniWeb has a couple of more buttons. Firefox has 5 plus the addy and google bars. Even IE6 just defaults to a more-or-less basic set. Netscape 8 has so many stupid buttons and icons that you're lucky to see where you type the URL. And dig that ultra-cool aqua and orange UI.

    Before I leave the toolbar, let me just say that I hope their "multibar" dies a painful death. This multibar crap thing is kind of like stacking 4 bookmark bars on top of each other so you can't see what each one holds. The device used to change them is a really small low-contrast dropdown which is not really obvious, and Netscape isn't really in a position to try and be "pioneering" with their UI. I gotta wonder WTF happened to the little things like usability.

    The thing to remember about icons is this - you can't use too many at once and they have to be instantly recognizable. Not many apps can break that unless they're extremely mature, like Photoshop. Netscape 8 really really really likes icons and sees fit to just put them anywhere and everywhere.

    Onto the menubar. We Mac users have a nice simple life. We throw our mouse towards the upper left and we're definitely going to hit the menubar. Windows apps require you to chase the window a bit and you have to actually _aim_ to hit the menu item depending on window size/location/etc. Netscape scoffs at both and right-aligns their menu bar so the File menu is effectively at the top center of the window. Fitts' law surrenders and weeps in the corner.

    Now it's the little things like what that snazzy green shield icon on the page tab means. Did you know it was clickable? Did you know that _THAT'S_ how you change rendering engines on a per-site basis? Did you notice that they got wicked high on meth and said "We can do Live Bookmarks better than Firefox".

    I have never been so aggravated by one browser in the last 10 years.
  3. daveL macrumors 68020


    Jun 18, 2003
    Sorry, but who cares? Really, I mean AOL, who owns the browser, is *not* Netscape in any way, shape, manner or form.

    MCAVIN: Wow, take a chill pill, it ain't that big a deal.

    Last, but not least, kill the CAPS in your thread titles, ok? This isn't DOS. CAPS are == to yelling, and this is not anything to yell about. MFD.
  4. pimentoLoaf macrumors 68000


    Dec 30, 2001
    The SimCity Deli
    You can still get Netscape 7 for MacOS X -- I use it when Safari can't render a page correctly and for accessing my Netscape mail account.
  5. iMeowbot macrumors G3


    Aug 30, 2003
    Don't hold your breath. AOL no longer have an in-house team working on Netscape. Netscape 8 was put together by these people, and they're mostly Windows specialists.
  6. mcarvin macrumors regular

    Oct 26, 2003
    Southern NJ
    I know, I know. :eek:

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