network? shared? ??

Discussion in 'macOS' started by nicoleasks, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. nicoleasks macrumors newbie

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    I've read some threads that talk about this, but I just don't understand. It may be a very basic thing but I'm new to Macs and I just don't get it. I'm on Lion, Macbook Pro. Can someone explain this to me in basic terms or point me in the direction of support documentation?

    What is the Shared list that appears sometimes in the sidebar of my Finder? Who are those other computers off-and-on listed there? Are they connected to my computer or my wireless account or something? I assume that if they're apparent to me, I'm apparent to them -- I don't like the sound of that, so is there some way I can make myself invisible to them?

    What is my "network"? Today and once before I couldn't connect to the internet and the error message read something about another "device" on my "network" having the same IP address as me, and I should contact my "network provider." What do they mean by "device"? What is my "network"? (I have not connected this computer with other computers or "devices" in my household. Is "network" my internet service, and my "network provider" my ISP?) My internet settings are set to DHCP, which someone told me in the past means this problem about two devices having the same IP address shouldn't be happening -- so what is going on??

    Are these two issues related?

    Thank you!
     
  2. satcomer macrumors 603

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    1. Shared List in the Finder side bar: Computers in the Network your Mac is in that are sharing something on that network.

    2. For your second question you have to understand somewhat IP and subnets. For example the four parts of an IP (192.168.1.1) and the first three parts (between the dots) are the subnet. The past is the IP assigned to devices in the subnet (i.e. - 192.168.1.2).

    Now do you have any other computers or devices that get an IP in your house? Have you set up proper sharing on one of those devices?
     
  3. nicoleasks thread starter macrumors newbie

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    1. What is the "Network that my Mac is in"?

    2. There are other computers/devices that get an IP in my house, but when I first got that message about another device using my IP, none of them were on (unless an iPod gets an IP? Not an iPhone, just a plain iPod). There are others that belong to my neighbours in the downstairs apartment, but they have their own wireless account. I haven't set up sharing on any of them.
     
  4. ScoobyMcDoo macrumors 65816

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    Did you set up any security on your network? If not, anyone could be using your wireless network.
     
  5. nicoleasks thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I didn't set anything up myself, but I've never been able to access it (nor have any friends who've come over with their smartphones/laptops) without punching in the WEP, so I assumed it couldn't be accessed without that. Am I wrong?
     
  6. ScoobyMcDoo macrumors 65816

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    Well, WEP is really like no security at all if someone is in fact trying to steal your wifi signal. By that I mean, the security is easily defeated. If you think someone is hacking into your network that way, use WPA instead.

    On a different subject, you asked earlier if an iPod would use an IP address. The iPod touch does - none of the other models do.

    The wireless router should have an administrative panel available which will show you which devices are currently connected. How you get to that panel depends on which router you use. Consult your router's documentation to find this.
     
  7. nicoleasks thread starter macrumors newbie

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    @ScoobyMcDoo Thanks a lot, I've taken your advice. Indeed, my wireless admin panel did show a device that isn't known to me; after I set a WPA password, the device was switched from "active" to "inactive" -- I guess someone was hacking into my wireless network after all!

    But I'm still wondering about some things -- help from anyone would be appreciated!

    1. Why did I twice get error messages about another device using my IP address? All my own devices are set to DHCP (according to my wireless admin panel, and the internet settings on the devices themselves), as is the ex-hacker's device (according to my wireless admin panel) -- shouldn't that preclude doubled-up IP addresses?

    2. Am I right in thinking that anytime something appears under the Shared list in my Finder window, it's connected to my wireless network?

    3. Would the hacker's connecting to my wireless network cause slower internet speeds and/or down internet services for me, or is that a separate problem? (Many times over the last couple months my internet has been VERY slow and sometimes even non-functional.)

    4. When I connect to a public wireless network, I assume I appear on everyone else's Shared list just like they appear on mine. Is there a way I can hide myself? Is this a security risk -- I mean, can other people connect to my computer this way?

    THANKS!!
     
  8. ScoobyMcDoo macrumors 65816

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    1. Could be many things - buggy dhcp server. Confusion of DHCP from plugging into different networks, hacker using a static IP - really hard to say for sure without digging through logs.

    2. That or servers on your VPN if you use one.

    3. Anything taking up additional bandwidth on your connection will slow you down. Also, I have known malicious hackers who will purposely slow down others connection just for fun.

    4. Always use the firewall when connected to a public network.
     

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