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But we're environmentally friendly. Meanwhile creates e-waste with a 1 year old $300+ product that can't be re-used.

If this was a cheap well under $100 basic form-fitting case, ok sucks but ok. The dimensions are slightly different. But this thing was already WAY overpriced.

And they could have left a bit extra space (talking 1-2mm) in the thickness when closing up. There was nothing preventing that like a traditional case that wraps around.

This is intentional obsolescence. Regardless what Apple fanboy sites want to say claiming "There’s no conspiracy to make you buy a new keyboard." Rigghhhhtttt
Exact same can be said about the AirTags not including a loop hole - something 90% of users are likely going to need (for keyrings). Instead they'll sell a whole other accessory, packaged in plastic (especially if third party) and shipped separately. Very environmental!
 
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Apple needs to just come out and make a press release about this. This will determine whether some buy the new model or not. Just tell us one way or another already.
 
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The brand new 12.9-inch iPad Pro will not be compatible with the older generation Magic Keyboard due to a marginal increase in device thickness, according to iGeneration.
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Article Link: New 12.9-inch iPad Pro Not Compatible With Older Magic Keyboard

I love the folks abandoning their 1200 dollar iPad Pro after 1 year saying incompatibility with a 300 dollar accessory will stop them from upgrading to the latest 1300 dollar iPad Pro.

Maybe wherever you send the 2020 iPad Pro off to live, send the magic keyboard with it too. Then refresh both. I know whoever is using the “old” 2020 iPad Pro will appreciate the keyboard too... or be like me. I don’t travel with the magic keyboard; it sits next to the desktop monitors. So wouldn‘t ever close on the newest iPad Pro.
 
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I love the folks abandoning their 1200 dollar iPad Pro after 1 year saying incompatibility with a 300 dollar accessory will stop them from upgrading to the latest 1300 dollar iPad Pro.

Maybe wherever you send the 2020 iPad Pro off to live, send the magic keyboard with it too. Then refresh both. I know whoever is using the “old” 2020 iPad Pro will appreciate the keyboard too... or be like me. I don’t travel with the magic keyboard; it sits next to the desktop monitors. So wouldn‘t ever close on the newest iPad Pro.
Yeah, I’ve considered that if the YouTube tech reviewers come out and show the M1 iPad Pro functions perfectly well with the 2020 Magic Keyboard, I may go against my better judgement and buy the M1 iPad Pro, although I just can’t think of any good reasons why it makes sense vs my 2018 12.9. I predominantly use Notability, surf the web, email, and use Microsoft Office apps occasionally. I don’t need the horsepower of the M1. I am thinking of upgrading my 2017 MacBook Pro to the base M1 MacBook Air tho.
 
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That’s not the case. Both Apple Insider and The Verge claim they have other sources confirming this. If Apple wanted to they could put to rest any confusion by going on record as to whether the current keyboard is compatible or not.
There’s a difference between Apple officially supporting something and whether it will work. It’s quite likely the old keyboards are not officially supported because of the 0.5mm difference or added magnets or whatever, but it should still *work* and close properly based on testing people have done with existing Magic Keyboards.
 
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I love the folks abandoning their 1200 dollar iPad Pro after 1 year saying incompatibility with a 300 dollar accessory will stop them from upgrading to the latest 1300 dollar iPad Pro.

Maybe wherever you send the 2020 iPad Pro off to live, send the magic keyboard with it too. Then refresh both. I know whoever is using the “old” 2020 iPad Pro will appreciate the keyboard too... or be like me. I don’t travel with the magic keyboard; it sits next to the desktop monitors. So wouldn‘t ever close on the newest iPad Pro.
Well to be fair, those with 2018 or 2020 iPad Pro 12.9 can get $535-$580 on trade towards the purchase of a new 12.9 iPad Pro. I am looking at the 256GB WiFi only model since I am either at home or on campus studying (don’t need 5G). That’s $1099-$535 for me so having to spend an additional $350 for another Magic Keyboard is ludicrous And significantly changes the economics of the purchase. The question is does the 12.9 M1 iPad Pro really not work with the older Magic Keyboard because if it does after all, then I suspect many 2018/2020 iPad Pro 12.9 users will be upgrading who otherwise would not because they are likely in a similar boat as me when it comes to the economics.
 
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I love the folks abandoning their 1200 dollar iPad Pro after 1 year saying incompatibility with a 300 dollar accessory will stop them from upgrading to the latest 1300 dollar iPad Pro.

Maybe wherever you send the 2020 iPad Pro off to live, send the magic keyboard with it too. Then refresh both. I know whoever is using the “old” 2020 iPad Pro will appreciate the keyboard too... or be like me. I don’t travel with the magic keyboard; it sits next to the desktop monitors. So wouldn‘t ever close on the newest iPad Pro.
The 2020 MK works with the 2018 iPad Pro so it’s not abandoning their iPad after 1 year.
 
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There’s a difference between Apple officially supporting something and whether it will work. It’s quite likely the old keyboards are not officially supported because of the 0.5mm difference or added magnets or whatever, but it should still *work* and close properly based on testing people have done with existing Magic Keyboards.
Which is why Apple should clear up the confusion.
 
Well to be fair, those with 2018 or 2020 iPad Pro 12.9 can get $535-$580 on trade towards the purchase of a new 12.9 iPad Pro. I am looking at the 256GB WiFi only model since I am either at home or on campus studying (don’t need 5G). That’s $1099-$535 for me so having to spend an additional $350 for another Magic Keyboard is ludicrous And significantly changes the economics of the purchase. The question is does the 12.9 M1 iPad Pro really not work with the older Magic Keyboard because if it does after all, then I suspect many 2018/2020 iPad Pro 12.9 users will be upgrading who otherwise would not because they are likely in a similar boat as me when it comes to the economics.
Apple’s website says I can trade in my 2018 iPad Pro and get $535 the new Pro. IF the 2020 MK really doesn’t work Apple should allow it to be included in the trade in If they quoted me $635 for my 2018 Pro + MK I would probably upgrade. If they don’t offer anything then Apple just lost a $1100 iPad sale.
 
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I love the folks abandoning their 1200 dollar iPad Pro after 1 year saying incompatibility with a 300 dollar accessory will stop them from upgrading to the latest 1300 dollar iPad Pro.

Maybe wherever you send the 2020 iPad Pro off to live, send the magic keyboard with it too. Then refresh both. I know whoever is using the “old” 2020 iPad Pro will appreciate the keyboard too... or be like me. I don’t travel with the magic keyboard; it sits next to the desktop monitors. So wouldn‘t ever close on the newest iPad Pro.
Some people are upgrading from a 2018 iPad Pro.
 
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Apple thinks customers are ****ing stupid, with all that pricing and all. And now the whole "pay $400 extra every time you upgrade to buy the same exact keyboard all over again"
Apple thinks this way because they know that while many consumers will complain and insist they’re not going to buy a new product, they will still buy it. There are legions of Apple devotees that gladly pay whatever prices Apple thinks up and they’ll defend Apple all along the way. So yeah, consumers are stupid.
 
Apple thinks this way because they know that while many consumers will complain and insist they’re not going to buy a new product, they will still buy it. There are legions of Apple devotees that gladly pay whatever prices Apple thinks up and they’ll defend Apple all along the way. So yeah, consumers are stupid.
And maybe there's a segment of people like me who believe the market should dictate prices. If a business invests time and money into releasing a product then I see nothing wrong with them trying to get the highest price possible for it.

Almost every Apple purchase I have made (ex. iPhone 7 Plus, MBP 13 inch, Homepod, etc.) was at a sale/deal price or after the product price dropped after it had been released for a significant period of time. There were plenty of other consumers who were willing to pay regular price for the item and I don't begrudge them that and certainly don't view them as "sheep" or stupid consumers. They simply valued the items at a price higher than I did. And we are not talking about necessities of life here. You can get something comparable that will do what you want at a lower price (whether it is a used product or competing brand).

The only reason I bring this up is the alarming attitude of entitlement and hidden envy and resentment that is beginning to permeate this forum. You've got users and even moderators going into a thread like the one for the Hermes leather keychain (for Air Tags) making veiled comments insinuating those people had wasted money and were being ripped off like fools. You got other users critcisizing Apple for the simple fact they chose to offer the Hermes tag as an option to buy in their online store.

It would seem nowadays, if people don't get a product for the price they deem it is worth and with the features they deem it should have then it is a rip-off. Anyone who doesn't seem to agree with their assessment get classified as fools or sheep.
 
And maybe there's a segment of people like me who believe the market should dictate prices. If a business invests time and money into releasing a product then I see nothing wrong with them trying to get the highest price possible for it.

Almost every Apple purchase I have made (ex. iPhone 7 Plus, MBP 13 inch, Homepod, etc.) was at a sale/deal price or after the product price dropped after it had been released for a significant period of time. There were plenty of other consumers who were willing to pay regular price for the item and I don't begrudge them that and certainly don't view them as "sheep" or stupid consumers. They simply valued the items at a price higher than I did. And we are not talking about necessities of life here. You can get something comparable that will do what you want at a lower price (whether it is a used product or competing brand).

The only reason I bring this up is the alarming attitude of entitlement and hidden envy and resentment that is beginning to permeate this forum. You've got users and even moderators going into a thread like the one for the Hermes leather keychain (for Air Tags) making veiled comments insinuating those people had wasted money and were being ripped off like fools. You got other users critcisizing Apple for the simple fact they chose to offer the Hermes tag as an option to buy in their online store.

It would seem nowadays, if people don't get a product for the price they deem it is worth and with the features they deem it should have then it is a rip-off. Anyone who doesn't seem to agree with their assessment get classified as fools or sheep.
Sour grapes.
 
There’s a difference between Apple officially supporting something and whether it will work. It’s quite likely the old keyboards are not officially supported because of the 0.5mm difference or added magnets or whatever, but it should still *work* and close properly based on testing people have done with existing Magic Keyboards.
I found a 3rd party folio on Amazon that’s supposedly compatible with the 5th gen iPad Pro 12.9. At least that’s what the product description says. It’s essentially a copy of Apple’s Smart Folio for the iPad. So I ordered it, it’s a lot cheaper than Apple’s, figuring that at least I would have one useable case for the 5th gen until I decided how much money I wanted to spend on a case/keyboard.

I now have that case and it matches exactly the dimensions and camera cutout area of my Magic Keyboard. Even the magnet areas appear to line up. So either the current MKB will line up properly with the the new 5th gen iPad or this $25 folio is not really 5th gen compatible. If it actually is compatible then the camera area has not changed enough to affect anything.

I have also since ordered a new Smart Keyboard Folio from Apple that is officially compatible with the 5th iPP. My wife will get my 2018 12.9 and my Magic Keyboard, if it turns out to be incompatible with the 5th gen. However if that new Smart Keyboard Folio matches up as perfectly as that 3rd party folio does then I’m going to assume the MKB will work just fine with the new iPP. And I may return the Smart Keyboard or give it to my wife and I’ll use the old MKB with the new ipad.
 
I have an old remote that I used years ago on an old iMac and it actually still works on the current Apple TV. Of course Apple would probably say it’s not compatible!
The way our AppleFeature-gate tech culture is, unless it offers 100% of the features Apple will get flack for saying it is compatible. Same thing applies to the MK.

*Bold added for emphasis.*
 
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And maybe there's a segment of people like me who believe the market should dictate prices. If a business invests time and money into releasing a product then I see nothing wrong with them trying to get the highest price possible for it.

Almost every Apple purchase I have made (ex. iPhone 7 Plus, MBP 13 inch, Homepod, etc.) was at a sale/deal price or after the product price dropped after it had been released for a significant period of time. There were plenty of other consumers who were willing to pay regular price for the item and I don't begrudge them that and certainly don't view them as "sheep" or stupid consumers. They simply valued the items at a price higher than I did. And we are not talking about necessities of life here. You can get something comparable that will do what you want at a lower price (whether it is a used product or competing brand).

The only reason I bring this up is the alarming attitude of entitlement and hidden envy and resentment that is beginning to permeate this forum. You've got users and even moderators going into a thread like the one for the Hermes leather keychain (for Air Tags) making veiled comments insinuating those people had wasted money and were being ripped off like fools. You got other users critcisizing Apple for the simple fact they chose to offer the Hermes tag as an option to buy in their online store.

It would seem nowadays, if people don't get a product for the price they deem it is worth and with the features they deem it should have then it is a rip-off. Anyone who doesn't seem to agree with their assessment get classified as fools or sheep.
Entitlement? Envy? Resentment? I guess maybe with some people.

Having an opinion that a price is unreasonable does not indicate any entitlement, at least not in the general sense. It’s fine if the market dictates price. So when gasoline prices rose to unprecedented levels 10 years ago, you didn’t have the slightest issue with that? After all, the market set that price, and not feeling that a gallon of gasoline is worth $4.50 is no different than opinions on the prices of anything else.

As for people that begrudge others for what they purchase, that’s lame and I don’t agree with it either.
 
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Apple says old Magic Keyboard is ‘functionally compatible’ with new 12.9-inch iPad Pro, but warns of imperfect fit

They’re trying to cover their butts..uh “sources”. They know .5mm will be insignificant. Many here use a screen cover as thick or thicker with no fit issues. I stuck a wad of printer paper about 2mm in thickness and there was a gap but less than 2, no gap, it closed securely. My guess is that only people who use a screen cover will have to be careful.
 
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