Whoops I was a bit out. But still at 3000/6700 still pretty close to 2015 dual core pro and air
https://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2015/03/macbook-air-pro-benchmarks-march-2015/
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New 12-Inch Retina MacBook is Between 5% and 18% Faster Than 2015 Model
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https://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2015/03/macbook-air-pro-benchmarks-march-2015/
This one I think? Darling Harbour in Sydney, Australia.
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QT slows it down by a good 10-15%, subjectively. It does feel a lot quicker when not recording!
What I should have done is screen shared and recorded, doesn't seem to have the same performance penalty.
Main use case is running Pro software? Get the MBP...
This little machine wasn't built for the tasks you describe. It's great for a wide slice of students, or those that live in MS Office, home users managing their Photos library etc. This isn't for movie producing or PhotoShop* tasks which require sustained load - a visit to the Apple Store and the staff would quickly tell you that.
* Although for small PS tasks you'll be fine:
"What surprised us a little, though, is that the new MacBook is still a very capable machine that runs quickly for just about everything we throw at it. The most intensive app I use regularly is Photoshop CC, and the new MacBook has no problems whatsoever there. And that includes having three or four high-res images open in tabs, running intensive filters and the like."
http://www.gizmag.com/12-inch-macbook-vs-13-inch-macbook-pro-retina-2015/37152/
It's not really 5% though - the combination of the processor and storage bump makes it a far better experience.
I don't recall seeing thermal throttling being mentioned in any of the professional reviews (Arstechnica, Engadget, Cnet, Macworld, Mashable), either.
But then again, I also don't recall any of them mentioning "movie producing" (or batch Photoshop/Lightroom processing jobs) as being part of their normal "real world usage" on an ultraportable machine with a 12" display.
Movie producing... Really?!?
All of them mentioned the one port thing, though. If you want to hate on the MacBook, that's something a lot of people can rally around. Not being able to produce a movie on it due to thermal throttling... that's kind of out there, IMO.
Because they have been promised to all the Windows machines first. I've been using a Razer Stealth for 2 months, now. Don't worry 2017 is just around the corner.
I'm still happy with the first generation that I reviewed a while ago but I was thinking about getting the new model. Mostly because it has a better CPU. Ultimately, I decided to stick with the one I have and wait for another iteration. I'm hoping a future model will finally get a decent FaceTime camera, a slightly improved keyboard (I love Apple's new Magic Keyboard that is based on the same technology as the one in the MacBook) and Thunderbolt 3.
Reason I bought the new rMB: highly akin to why preppers are willing to spend a lot of money on a gun that they may never use: emergencies. The low wattage is such that I have a reliable computing system should there be an earthquake or other natural disaster that takes out the grid for days or weeks. IMHO, the rMB is the perfect emergency kit companion (with a non-powered hub + the type C RAV Power pack that is chargeable from a solar panel).
Take it apart, clean the fans and reapply thermal paste (if you are comfortable with that). That will fix your heat issue.
Hm. I know enough about my capabilities to know that this would be very risky on my only machine.... Maybe when I upgrade and have nothing to lose.
That said, its only a massive problem when i'm making a skype call - skype video chat fires the temperature up like nothing else - it's the only circumstance where the temperature shoots up to nearly 100C.
Anyway, that's off-topic. Will re-post in the Air forum soon.
They are never in rash. They know better when do you need to upgrade and don't care if you switch to a windows operating system 'cause you gonna be back'
Also Intel has apparently screwed Apple up with processors.Im sorry but this is such a cliche. Im working with both photography and video production. And currently I am using a Macbook from 2008 to do it. And it gets the job done. All i´ve done is upgrade the ram on it.
But in other words, any normal Mac will get the job done. Certainly any of the machines from 2016 or 2015 will do these tasks with no problem. Though Im a bit unsure about the power of the small new-Macbook, but certainly its more powerfull than an eight year old Macbook?
So this whole "pro" argument is just a made up construction to fool people with certain interests into paying more for something they dont really need. If you must have the most powerfull computer out there, you dont buy a Mac. And see any film school student or photographer - they are using the cheapest Mac. Because guess what, thats expensive too.
If you are one of them few people who has a real pro setup and make alot of money, guess what, you still dont buy the Macbook pro. Instead you have a nice Mac Pro at your home office with a cinema screen attached to it. Still using your Macbook air on the go.
I admit I would have some advantages on going from this old lowres screen to a high resolution retina screen. But I dont even need that to edit beautiful photos for publishing. Its not that complicated work.
Re-read my post - especially the quote and the link.
The Retina MacBook will be fine for someone like you. The guy I was talking to is talking about sustained CPU effort which can cause CPU throttling. It takes a pretty heavy workload to invoke that. And for them people the MBP is the way to go.
Here's some further information on the CPU and throttling within he 2015 version of Retina MacBook:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9136/the-2015-macbook-review/9
Not read all previous comments yet so sorry if I've missed something, but has anyone seen any in depth reviews of the 1.3ghz 2016 model yet?
Or better yet if anyone has one make yourself known!
I'm running a 2012 13" MBA i7 - tired of not being able to watch full HD content, and hoping the GPU will be slightly better than my intel HD4000...
90% of my work load is basic email/word/power point/web surfing, I occasionally edit music [only via garage band]. I feel a pro would be over kill for my needs, just hoping the CPU throttling wont be an issue on garage band heavy days... any one have any input/advice?
Or should I wait 2 months to see if they update the MBA/Pro line before an upgrade?
Or better yet if anyone has one make yourself known!
I'm running a 2012 13" MBA i7 - tired of not being able to watch full HD content, and hoping the GPU will be slightly better than my intel HD4000...
90% of my work load is basic email/word/power point/web surfing, I occasionally edit music [only via garage band]. I feel a pro would be over kill for my needs, just hoping the CPU throttling wont be an issue on garage band heavy days... any one have any input/advice?
Or should I wait 2 months to see if they update the MBA/Pro line before an upgrade?
Adding some perspective.
I got a Macbook Pro 13” mid 2009, Core duo 2530 GHz. It scores around 2300-2800 in Geekbench 3 (64-bit). All tough 7 years old it is still an amazing machine, running latest OS X easily. Yes, it gets a little hot occasionally, but it still runs pretty fine.
Main applications I use are Lightroom (cloud) and iMovie. Having a huge photo library with files from Canon EOS 5d MK III, and some video clips from various cameras I still have no issues using this old Macbook. I also have the iMac 27” retina, and uses that as my main computer for most work nowadays, but my Macbook is still a great piece to use when traveling or I just want to do some work in my favorite chair.
So, if this new Macbook 12” clocks in at scores above 6000, it is a racer compared to my old, but still very usable MBP. Cannot imagine anything else than this supersmall piece of laptop would be perfect for photographers on the run as well as everybody not playing the most intensive games. At 6000 score it even compares fine with MBP from 2014/15, and that is pretty nice coming in such a small package! Not cheap, but if highly portable is a requirement, then it still might be worth it.
I got a Macbook Pro 13” mid 2009, Core duo 2530 GHz. It scores around 2300-2800 in Geekbench 3 (64-bit). All tough 7 years old it is still an amazing machine, running latest OS X easily. Yes, it gets a little hot occasionally, but it still runs pretty fine.
Main applications I use are Lightroom (cloud) and iMovie. Having a huge photo library with files from Canon EOS 5d MK III, and some video clips from various cameras I still have no issues using this old Macbook. I also have the iMac 27” retina, and uses that as my main computer for most work nowadays, but my Macbook is still a great piece to use when traveling or I just want to do some work in my favorite chair.
So, if this new Macbook 12” clocks in at scores above 6000, it is a racer compared to my old, but still very usable MBP. Cannot imagine anything else than this supersmall piece of laptop would be perfect for photographers on the run as well as everybody not playing the most intensive games. At 6000 score it even compares fine with MBP from 2014/15, and that is pretty nice coming in such a small package! Not cheap, but if highly portable is a requirement, then it still might be worth it.
Have the one year older machine. But using it in the same way. iMovie+Photoshop+iPhotos mostly. And Im not really believing the "pretty fine" argument. Thats if by pretty fine, you mean that its still running. My dad has the same machine you do, and its super slow just running Word and Safari. The only reason mine is keeping up better is because I upgraded the ram to 8gb.
I edit alot of full HD video in iMovie, and even though the program is great, its awefully slow. Causing me to do many errors simply because of how choppy it is. Then of course it takes 20 minutes to render just two minutes of video. And when I sometimes need to open photoshop at the same time - I spend more time waiting for everything to load than to actually get work done.
It still gets it done. Which is amazing in itself, but this is why Im realising I should upgrade now. After eight years. And I plan to start using Final Cut, but wont even dare try that on my machine now.
Must be something fishy with your dads machine, at least if Safari is slow. (sidenote: tried MS Office on my iMac about 6 months ago...it was a PAIN even on iMac - something really wrong in that program code). Safari on mine is almost as fast as the iMac, well at least I can't really see any major difference. I have used FCPX on my 2009 MBP, it worked ok - not superfast of course and rendering was slow, but for casual editing it was ok. Prior to buying the iMac the old MBP and FCPX was my main video editing machine. I removed it when I bought the iMac, mainly because of the screen size, not so much of performance. But sure, performance i blazingly fast on the iMac regarding movie editing. (Having both FCPX and iMovie, I plan to go back to iMovie because I do not need all the features that FCPX have, and iMovie work across iOS/OSX).
If you do a lot of movies I wouldn't go only MB or MBP, but rather look to iMac anyway. I regard the Macbook 12" more as a tool during traveling. And as such I recon it would be way better than my MBP 2009, and as earlier stated approx same Geekbench score as 2014/15 MBPr 13", which if true would be more than enough for most purposes.
I would say that the MB 12" would be close to perfect for photogs on tour using Lightroom, and work ok to casual video editing.
Safari sucks, plain and simple. My dads machine is the same as every other machine. These are mass produced machines, they are all the same. His has been standing on the same table for years now. Nothing fishy being done to it, other than reading emails, browsing the web, and writing documents. Still it ****s itself up.
That is the thing start doing photoshop or using google earth and see how the computer slows down so it does not get hot. With the MacBook pro it will just get hot and the fan will turn on. But it will not slow down!!
With this computer any thing you do like watching HD clips on youtube, photoshop or using google earth the computer will slow down so it does not get hot.
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Well exactly I would take 2015 MacBook Air over this computer any day.Way faster, better CPU and GPU. More ports and it still really lightweight computer.
Only thing you getting with this computer is retina screen.