IMO if you're not interested in the touchbar just go with the 2015
I'm buying a new MacBook. It appears the nTB 13" is unchanged from mid-2017. Is this true? Should I wait? Should I go used?
I think the nTB is due for discontinuation which is why it was not updated last year.
I'd have to look for my receipt from the time, but if I recall I acquired a top spec 13" mbp in 2013 and 2014 respectively (from Apple store stock / not bto) - I seem to recall I paid anywhere from 1800-2K.
What does the top spec (standard in-store offering) cost today? - $1999
How has the tb increased the cost of a mbp?
(maybe my memory's off??)
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Screen shots of the receipts - I 'think' both computers had i7 processors but of course, dual core. Here we are with the 2018 model and of course the top tier 13" (non bto) has an i5 but, it's quad-core. I just don't see the criticism. Fact: the tb has NOT increased the price of a mbp, at least on the 13" top spec. (save a variable for i5/i7, I guess but to me it's a wash) Actually, factoring inflation, the cost of a 13" mbp has decreased. That's a fact. What am I missing here?
Apple's 13" mbp is a wonderful computer, and always has been. JMO
So your 2013 appears to be upgraded to the faster i5 (mine is a 2.4) and 512 GB SSD. Your 2014 is an i7/512GB. It can be difficult to match things like this up when the machines are 4 or 5 years apart. Suffice it to say that neither of your machines would be considered a "base" model and you 2014 is actually pretty heavily upgraded. The closest parallels from the 2018 crop in my opinion would be the i5/16GB/512GB for the 2013 and the i7/16GB/512GB for the 2014. Those would be $2199 and $2499 respectively, a difference of $400 ($250 adjusted for inflation) and $500 ($345 adjusted). In my opinion, these are the machines that a person who bought what you bought at that time would look at now. Now you could say the 8GB versions are closer in spec and that would change the price to $1999 and $2299. Still an increase of $200 ($60 adjusted) and $300 ($175 adjusted) respectively and at that point you are talking about a more upgraded machine in the 2013 and 2014 compared to a nearly base 2018. I think you are comparing upgraded machines to stock machines.
The better way to look at it is at the absolute base level. A base level 2013 and 2014 was $1299 ($1400 in 2019 dollars). A base level TouchBar today is $1799. That is a $400 difference after adjusting for inflation. I think there is no question a 2018 MacBook Pro is more expensive. I say this as someone who has a 2018 13" with an i7 and 1TB SSD that I absolutely love.
Nah..somehow the point isn't coming across.
In 2013 if you walked into an Apple store and selected the top spec 13" mbp that Apple offered, you would pay $1799.00
In 2014 if you walked into an Apple store and selected the top spec 13" mbp that Apple offered, you would pay $1999.00
In 2018/2019 if you walk into an Apple store and select the top spec 13" mbp at Apple offers, you will pay $1999.00
In my opinion, the mid 2018 13" mbp is by far the nicest 13" mbp that Apple has ever offered and, it's cheaper than it used to be - that's a simple fact. YMMV
So should I wait? Do you think the nTB will be updated?
And have a Staingate-infested 4-year-old jurassic relic?
The 2017 is not quite good value at full price, but you can easily get it down to $1100 or thereabouts at Best Buy physical stores etc. Plus it's a very solid laptop (even if its performance is not exactly mind-blowing).
2018 refurbs are also a good idea.
The performance bump between a current gen nTB MBP and an base early '15 is significant but not mind-blowing (about 20%). And he'd probably pay half as much and not have to worry about all the issues the current gen faces.
I agree, MacOS is unparalleled. It would be nice if Apple did update the nTB so that people still maintain a choice to opt out of the tb (I personally like the tb but could live w/out it) and also don't feel as though they are compromising on what Apple offers as its latest pc of kit. At the end of the day though, realistically, the 2017 nTB is the equal, and more to any 13" mbp which preceded it, so there is that. Frankly, at 1200 bucks, if you don't need alot of storage space, that's alot of computer in a great form factor and a beautifully made computer for the dough. JMO..Once again, good luck.I really don't want a used computer. The biggest detractor with the nTB is that it hasn't changed for 2 years, not the specs. I want the latest components, so it's best for me to wait. I hope Apple updates the nTB, because I just don't see a use for the TB. If they discontinue the nTB, I guess I'll find some use for the silly TB.
When I bought my 2010, I had the same thought process. Initially I bought the 2009 model, then exchanged it for the 2010 when it came out. The 2010 got 2 more years of MacOS support than the 2009, even though the performance difference between them was marginal.
MacOS is unparalleled IMO, and what I'm buying the computer for really.