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Has anyone tested the new Time Capsule to see if it has the same increased output and range as the new AEBS?

Anecdotally, I've seen a lot of reports of people getting better range on the new TC's and AEBS. Obviously that's far from scientific, but it certainly would appear that it has better range. Still capped at 450 Mbps, but that's at the high end of routers now. I don't think we'll see anything with 4-stream capability for a while.
 
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Anecdotally, I've seen a lot of reports of people getting better range on the new TC's and AEBS. Obviously that's far from scientific, but it certainly would appear that it has better range. Still capped at 450 Mbps, but that's at the high end of routers now. I don't think we'll see anything with 4-stream capability for a while.

My now ancient and discontinued 1TB TC had the 3 antennas all along and I found out by accident that it very much can do 450Mbps when I started running Lion exclusively (3 weeks now).

While I was initially overjoyed, my feelings turned to contempt and furious hatred realizing that all this time, every Time Capsule and Airport Extreme owner could probably have all had 450Mbps connections all this time on Snow Leopard, couldn't they? Or is it only possible for owners of 2011 MBP's and 2011 iMac's?
 
My now ancient and discontinued 1TB TC had the 3 antennas all along and I found out by accident that it very much can do 450Mbps when I started running Lion exclusively (3 weeks now).

While I was initially overjoyed, my feelings turned to contempt and furious hatred realizing that all this time, every Time Capsule and Airport Extreme owner could probably have all had 450Mbps connections all this time on Snow Leopard, couldn't they? Or is it only possible for owners of 2011 MBP's and 2011 iMac's?
It's only 2011 MBPs and 2011 iMacs so far AFAIK. The client also needs to have three antennas for a 450Mbps connection to be possible, and the 2011 MBPs were the first Apple machines to have that feature.

Here's a link for more info.

Of all my Apple wireless devices (iPad 2, '09 MBP, '09 iMac, '11 MBP, '11 iMac, Airport Express), only the '11 models would connect at 450Mbps.

One thing I do plan to do once my 5th generation AEBS arrives is to configure my 4th gen AEBS as a wireless bridge. That should then enable a 450Mbps connection between its Ethernet-connected clients and the 5th gen AEBS.
 
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It's only 2011 MBPs and 2011 iMacs so far AFAIK. The client also needs to have three antennas for a 450Mbps connection to be possible, and the 2011 MBPs were the first Apple machines to have that feature.

Here's a link for more info.

Of all my Apple wireless devices (iPad 2, '09 MBP, '09 iMac, '11 MBP, '11 iMac, Airport Express), only the '11 models would connect at 450Mbps.

One thing I do plan to do once my 5th generation AEBS arrives is to configure my 4th gen AEBS as a wireless bridge. That should then enable a 450Mbps connection between its Ethernet-connected clients and the 5th gen AEBS.

Alright cool. So it wasn't Apple disabling features on some of its products so as to later sell "unlocking software", the kind of trick that Intel pulled last year.

Although it's still strange to me that they would put the 3x3 MIMO capability inside its WiFi routers and not do the same thing on every Mac that has WiFi. What am I missing here? This could have been a selling point and a tangible one at that. When you show consumers a number that's 50% higher than what's on PC's, for example, I strongly believe a lot of, if not most, people would eat that up in a heartbeat even if they never end up benefitting from the additional bandwidth. I'm seriously flummoxed! :confused:

Most of the industry is still stuck at 300Mbps and again, I simply don't get that. I love WiFi! I've been running draft 802.11n networks (including more complicated ones with WDS and multiple Access Points) ever since draft 2.0 was "released". What is it with the baby steps? Why not do the full 600Mbps already?
 
How can you tell the difference between a 300 MBs and 450 MBs connection when the connection is to a router connecting to the internet at 10 MBs? That is generally what the vast majority of home connection is used for. 300 MBs should be enough to stream songs and HD movies, so I don't even know how you would tell in your wireless local network.

I'm getting a TC soon (might even walk over to Apple Store today) and have a 2011 iMac, so I will be interested to see if I notice some sort of difference in speed, but I doubt it since mainly my iMac is reaching out to the internet through a gimped cable modem that tops out at 10 MBs unless I pay Time Warner more.
 
How can you tell the difference between a 300 MBs and 450 MBs connection when the connection is to a router connecting to the internet at 10 MBs? That is generally what the vast majority of home connection is used for. 300 MBs should be enough to stream songs and HD movies, so I don't even know how you would tell in your wireless local network.

I think streaming on the home network is becoming more and more important as people have potentially multiple devices streaming content around their homes.

- ATV2 streaming
- constant Time Machine backups (sometimes from multiple computers)
- Home Sharing between computers and iPhone/touches,
- With iOS 5, syncing iPhones over the air
 
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Alright cool. So it wasn't Apple disabling features on some of its products so as to later sell "unlocking software", the kind of trick that Intel pulled last year.

Although it's still strange to me that they would put the 3x3 MIMO capability inside its WiFi routers and not do the same thing on every Mac that has WiFi. What am I missing here? This could have been a selling point and a tangible one at that. When you show consumers a number that's 50% higher than what's on PC's, for example, I strongly believe a lot of, if not most, people would eat that up in a heartbeat even if they never end up benefitting from the additional bandwidth. I'm seriously flummoxed! :confused:

Most of the industry is still stuck at 300Mbps and again, I simply don't get that. I love WiFi! I've been running draft 802.11n networks (including more complicated ones with WDS and multiple Access Points) ever since draft 2.0 was "released". What is it with the baby steps? Why not do the full 600Mbps already?


Did you follow how long it took to get 802.11n passed? Standards take *forever*, so it's a good thing there's some room to grow in them when they do get passed. There's probably materials and antennas in labs or even prototypes that do the full gamut - so the committee knew it was achievable - but they need to get everything commercially viable.

For an extreme example of how long it takes known wireless technologies to become feasible to implement, read up on low density parity check codes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-density_parity-check_code

Impractical to implement when first developed by Gallager in 1963, LDPC codes were forgotten, but they were rediscovered in 1996. Turbo codes, another class of capacity-approaching codes discovered in 1993, became the coding scheme of choice in the late 1990s, used for applications such as deep space satellite communications. However, in the last few years, the advances in low-density parity-check codes have seen them surpass turbo codes in terms of error floor and performance in the higher code rate range, leaving turbo codes better suited for the lower code rates.
 
I would like to know that as well, since it could be A LOT faster.

I was able to write to a USB drive at about 14 MB/s so that puts it pretty close to USB 2.0's limit if I remember correctly.

edit: oops i see USB 2.0 does about 60MB/s max.
 
I was able to write to a USB drive at about 14 MB/s so that puts it pretty close to USB 2.0's limit if I remember correctly.

edit: oops i see USB 2.0 does about 60MB/s max.
I got similar results (10-13Mbps) on both external and internal. I thought the internal was supposed to be a bit faster but i guess not. So these speeds are passable for iTunes but I definitely see some chugging when it writes to disk, and thats depressing because I'm moving to an Air next week and I really wanted to host my iTunes library on the TC.
 
Urkel: I've been looking at the WNDRMAC for awhile now - from what I read, it's similar to the WNDR3700, which was supposed to have one of the best ranges of any router. How's the performance?

Also, I saw a box in Best Buy about a week ago and picked it up - it felt a bit heavier than usual. Is it made out of some kind of aluminum (kinda looks that way), or is it still plastic?

Thanks!
 
What's with the "server grade" terminology, by the way? I read that was all BS and that's it's not an enterprise-class drive...?

They use western digital caviar green drives

newegg sells for 80$ (2tb)
 
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