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New 2014 Mac Mini Has Soldered RAM, Not User Replaceable
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John Lewis Uk now only have 4 left. Be quick if youre on the fence, you can always return it if you dont use it.
I kind of think Apple doesn't care much whether people get a Mac or not anymore. They want you to get an iphone or ipad, and that's it. That's why they keep pushing icloud -- theoretically, you don't even need a computer to back up your stuff.
I, too, have a late 2009 27" iMac with the 8 GB RAM I got it with originally, and it's holding up well. I use it for professional software development and frequently have a large number of apps and browser windows open. At the moment I have Xcode, Eclipse, Photoshop, Flash, Preview (with some PDFs and graphics open), Word, Excel, Pixelmator, TextMate, Textwrangler (because it handles very large JSON well), Mail, Fetch, Activity Monitor, around a dozen Safari pages, bmGlyph, a terminal window. mySQL is started. I open and close iOS Simulator as needed. I put a 600 GB SSD in it, but never had reason to upgrade the RAM. The two things it currently does not do well -- compile large amounts of code, especially C++, and simulate Retina devices -- would not be significantly improved with more RAM.
So I think your assertion that the other poster's 8 GB is only good because he doesn't multi-task much is crap. And your previous assertion that each version of OS X requires almost twice as much RAM as the previous one is absurd. People might take you more seriously if you did make such wildly inaccurate comments. I would generally like Macs to be more upgradeable but if voices like yours are the loudest ones, I don't think very many people will be swayed.
I have a custom built PC and upgrade my parts as need be (wish I could do this easily on Apple computers). I have yet to upgrade my RAM, as I always purchase more than enough to satisfy future needs. Additionally, RAM deficiencies haven't been an issue for consumer desktops in years.
If you're browsing the internet, using iPhoto, or doing simple editing w/ iMovie....8GB is plenty. If you're a professional that needs 16GB +, you're not buying a Mini, you're buying the Pro. This is a non-issue for logical consumers.
The biggest pitfall about owning Apple products is their inability for users to perform upgrades. This is intentional. If you don't like it, purchase a Windows PC or spend the $ from the start.
As for the Mac Mini, if it's that concerning spend the $ and get 16GB. Is this cause for rioting or boycotting? No.
This is the
way. Always has been, always will be.
If you're browsing the internet, using iPhoto, or doing simple editing w/ iMovie....8GB is plenty. If you're a professional that needs 16GB +, you're not buying a Mini, you're buying the Pro. This is a non-issue for logical consumers.
The biggest pitfall about owning Apple products is their inability for users to perform upgrades. This is intentional. If you don't like it, purchase a Windows PC or spend the $ from the start.
As for the Mac Mini, if it's that concerning spend the $ and get 16GB. Is this cause for rioting or boycotting? No.
This is the
way. Always has been, always will be.
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If Apple allowed OS X on other hardware, I would do it in a second. The problem with hackintosh is that it's the ole spinning plate routine. Any new update to OS X or a key app, and you are off looking for a possible solution to get it to run again. Heaven for it its a security update, and you are left exposed for weeks, until a solution is found to get OS X to run again on your Frankenstein system.
I'm so tired of defending them... you're dead-on. At this point business/advanced users aren't part of their decision making. Unless you wanna drop >$4500 on a Mac Pro. Sigh.
For heavy working, the Mac Mini can barely get around that, but Apple has something that can deal with that. The answer is the Mac Pro and the MacBook Pro. These two are pro machines and they were born to specifically handle this type of work.
I don't think there are a lot of users who use the Mac Pro to handle accounting or anything with Number, Pages, and Keynote, and I've never met anybody who use their Mac Mini to deal with intensive graphic designing.
I have to agree with that. When was the last time I upgrade the RAM on my PowerBook G4? I still use my PowerBook G4 17" Last Generation as my main machine and yet it still runs 512mb of RAM. That is "unbelievably" enough for me.
It just means Apple want you to recycle their products more often and buy newer machines, rather than upgrading it. Why else would they push the idea that their products are recyclable? To protect the Earth? Don't be silly. New sales records = more resources being exploited.
Don't buy into Apple's doublethink, double-meaning.
Boy watching B&H mac mini prices is a trip. First the 2.3ghz was $739 then it dropped to $699, then when they realized what was happening because the 2.6ghz models sold out immediately, they raised the price to $789. If that doesn't tell you the new models suck then I don't know what will. People scrambled to get the last 12 core cheese grader mac pros and now they are scrambling to get the last quad core mac mini. It's just been a downward spiral with apple these past few years.
There are loads at other UK resellers. In any case, the only one really worth getting is the i7 quad core as that's the 'missing link'. I'm going to wait for the teardown and benchmarks but I think I'll just get the new mid-range Mini as it will wipe the floor with my 2009 model.
Mind you with discounts I can get the retina iMac for about £1400 - that's tempting.
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Huh ?
Let's compare the performance of the Mac Mini late 2012 i7 with the Macbook Pro 13" mid 2014, which is very similar to Mac Mini late 2014
Mac Mini late 2014 mid range $699 :
2.6GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz
8GB memory
Intel Iris Graphics
1TB hard drive 5400rpm
Macbook Pro 13" 2014 baseline $1299 :
2.6GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz
8GB 1600MHz memory
Intel Iris Graphics
128GB PCIe-based flash storage1
so except for the storage, those 2 are quite comparable (MBP 13" should have a slight edge over Mac Mini 2014 because of the SSD)
According to Geekbench http://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks
Macbook Pro 13" 2.6Ghz i5 (2 cores) 2014 scores : 3098 (single core) 6627 (multi core)
Mac Mini 2.3 GHz i7 (4 cores) late 2012 scores : 3001 (single core) 11689 (multi core)
If the hypothesis the Mac Mini 2014 = Macbook Pro 13 2014 is true then :
In the case of one core being used, then Mac Mini i5 2014 performance should be similar to Mac Mini i7 2012
In the case of multi cores being used, then Mac Mini i5 2014 performance should be HALF of Mac Mini i7 2012!!
In a 2 years gap, there would be NO improvement, DOWNGRADE instead !
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Well, at least you can still upgrade the RAM in the 21-inch iMac, MacBook Air and MacBook Pro with retina.
ifixit replied on my question that they will do Mac mini tear down soon, so hopefully on monday
Thanks !!
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I hope people are educated on this and no one buys it.
The only way to do anything about this problem is not buy it. We could complain until blue but if it sells it won't matter.
If the sales are miserable maybe they will get the message we're not all brainless sheep that will buy anything they sell. Most of us do our research. Especially us Macrumors users.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macmini.html
The only way to do anything about this problem is not buy it. We could complain until blue but if it sells it won't matter.
If the sales are miserable maybe they will get the message we're not all brainless sheep that will buy anything they sell. Most of us do our research. Especially us Macrumors users.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macmini.html
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The main reason it might break during updates is because of modified kexts, or modded kernel extensions. I'm not sure if there is a utility in which it restores the modified kext back after an applied update. I usually have to delete certain kexts in Single User Mode in order to boot back again and fix it.
I'm used to doing that so kernel panics don't scare me anymore. It's sometimes a pain but screw it, i still saved money.
This is the key issue. The only reason I upgrade every single Mac I have had (20+) is because of the Apple RAM tax.
Apple is largely successful today because of perception from the young and inexperienced. But Apple is working on a lot of bad perception from professionals. It used to be that Apple got a lot of support from professionals (audio and video, not IT), and it carried over to others at time when they needed it. Now Apple is too big/smart to be loyal to their roots, so there is no reason for us to be loyal to them.
All it would take is one high end mini, one high end notebook 17 inch, and the Mac Pro. Three products that would sell enough to not lose money even if they are not iPhones.
I know why they break. I also know that building a hackintosh can be a royal pain, and you can get in real trouble as your setup may not be the same as anyone else's. And thus the solution to your issue may not be coming from anyone but you.
Looks like everyone is going to be hammering iFixit.com on Monday for the Mac mini unboxing and dissect. Then the real rage will start roaring.
Here's a useful link, Best Buy's Price match (including online e-commerce):
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Global/Low-Price-Guarantee/pcmcat290300050002.c?id=pcmcat290300050002
If you can find the 2012 version online at a cheaper price, print it, and bring it to Best Buy, they will price match it.
Of course they want people to get macs! They just upgraded their most mainstream desktop to have a fricken 5K display. They obviously want people to buy. With that being said, of course they want you to get iphone and iPad. That's why they updated the Mac OS to work well with iOS devices. The products they make tend to work very well together.