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New 24-Inch 4K Monitor Detailed on Dell's Website [Update: $1399]
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I could have sworn that was the case, at least with an adapter of some sort for single link DVI towers that happened to have two ports. I thought I saw one setup like that back in college. I remember it sticking in my mind because I hadn't seen something like that before, so I'm pretty sure it exists, but had a hard time finding anything on Google. At the least we might have a company that makes a box to do this, but at what cost? I imagine a box that takes in two thunderbolt ports and outputs a 4K HDMI or Display Port will probably cost north of $500, in which case I'd rather just sell my current rMBP and put that cost difference towards a newer machine.
I could see that being useful for running multicam, though full resolution isn't quite necessary for multicam. Kind of depends on the use-case.
I feel like the end-game for me on this is I'll probably eventually get a lower-end refurb of the new Mac Pro with a decent sized SSD, upgrade the RAM myself and get a 4K Thunderbolt 2 display. Then I might supplement that with a refurb MBA 11" (hopefully retina) or an iPad Pro and sell my rMBP. Good thing I've been saving up. But I've also got time, as the Mac Pro hasn't been released yet, and the 4K TB2, rMBA and iPad Pro haven't even been announced.
My yellow-shifted, dimming DS-263N H-IPS display with DVI connectivity issues is really starting to tick me off. And I feel like the connection issues are worse in Mavericks. Does anyone else have one of these displays that does auto input connect (which is asinine), and now in Mavericks it will hardly connect at all? It's like the timeout for connection in Mavericks is too short. The display starts to connect (can see the rMBP screen flicker), but nothing happens on the external display and then it reverts back on the rMBP.
Dual HDMI for 60Hz 4K
Regardless of the Apple Display's dual input support, in my various searches I learned that both the Sharp PN-K321 and ASUS PQ321Q can do 60Hz from HDMI if two cables are connected (like a more recent version of the IBM T220/T221's 2 DVI port merging), so dual port solutions are not without precedent, but the difference is if dual ports are supported by the monitor or whether a device could pull off the trick of merging two independent signals and get it to work on a monitor specifically not supporting dual ports. You may be right about the potential cost of such a device and that in conjunction with the long time for 4K displays to really drop in price, and the standardization of ThunderBolt 2 across the Mac line in the interim (Hopefully the current Macs are the last with Thunderbolt 1 and the next revisions will see ThunderBolt 2 for all.), the prospects for a ThunderBolt 1 solution may be slim.
I've always thought of viewing multiple video streams as a neat trick, but more successfully pulled off with multiple monitors if a super high resolution one isn't available. Here's an amazing example of a whole lotta SD images in 4K:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyx6F6n45iA
Regardless of the Apple Display's dual input support, in my various searches I learned that both the Sharp PN-K321 and ASUS PQ321Q can do 60Hz from HDMI if two cables are connected (like a more recent version of the IBM T220/T221's 2 DVI port merging), so dual port solutions are not without precedent, but the difference is if dual ports are supported by the monitor or whether a device could pull off the trick of merging two independent signals and get it to work on a monitor specifically not supporting dual ports. You may be right about the potential cost of such a device and that in conjunction with the long time for 4K displays to really drop in price, and the standardization of ThunderBolt 2 across the Mac line in the interim (Hopefully the current Macs are the last with Thunderbolt 1 and the next revisions will see ThunderBolt 2 for all.), the prospects for a ThunderBolt 1 solution may be slim.
I've always thought of viewing multiple video streams as a neat trick, but more successfully pulled off with multiple monitors if a super high resolution one isn't available. Here's an amazing example of a whole lotta SD images in 4K:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyx6F6n45iA
Yeah, I'm kind of upset that Thunderbolt 1 was so short lived. Should have been faster out of the gate. I also think Thunderbolt 2 is going to be short lived because "Light Peak" was supposed to be optical originally, I think somewhere in the 50-100Gbps range? But copper slowed it down. As cool as Thunderbolt is, it's kind of turning into a bag of hurt. In a couple more years the optical version will probably roll out and you won't be able to buy anything that works with these ancient Thunderbolt 2 machines because they're so slow, lol. Not that you can buy much for them now, at least under a grand.
Well I was happily watching the 2004 Olympics in glorious HD. NBC's OTA feeds for their first couple of HD broadcast games even used a different feed, lots more action and less nonsense blabbing and back stories and commercials.
UHD/4k content exists by the boatload. Any photo you take that is more than like 2-3MP won't even fit on the older monitors at least the UHD screens let you view 8MP at once. Most photos taken these days are a lot more than 2-3MP.
And anything that uses text could sure as heck make use or more PPI. Look at how nasty texts looks on a 1920x1200 24" monitors compared to in a book.
Currently displays don't let you see nearly as much image detail as even 8x10" prints or books let you see.
Looking at my 1920x1200 24" it looks like a grainy mess after using a high PPI tablet for a while.
4K/UHD is LATE in arriving to computer monitors, not early.
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A joke? I guess all books and magazines are jokes then. And so are printed images. You do realize that people print 300PPI all the time and only get 13x19" prints out of that and that the eye can tell 540PPI prints from 300PPI prints so those 13x19" aren't even as crisp as they could be.
You don't notice that text in a book or photos in a magazine look way better than on your current monitor even if you have a 1920x1200 24"?
You don't notice that looking at real world objects in your room or looking outside you window that things look a lot sharper?
Did you ever try turning anti-aliasing off and play a game on a 1920x1200 24" screen and notice it looks like hell? It would look perfect if the 1920x1200 was 'too much for a 24" screen' as some like to parade around.
Yeah OLED is awesome. I've been waiting for that for a decade. But that has nothing to do with UHD. UHD is hear now. It seems OLED is still another three years out. Both are awesome though. It's not like one prevents the other. Heck, I await the day we get 8K OLED HDR panels driven at 16bits per channel.
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Maybe you just need some reading glasses. Or are near sighted or something.
Bionic eyeballs? People have noticed that magazines look way more detailed than computer monitors and that looking at current HDTV sure doesn't look like looking out the window with plain old regular human eyeballs.
You don't think a retina iPad looks infinitely better than the older iPads? That's not marketing gimmick. I avoid tablets until the retina pads arrived since the others were a grainy mess.
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I hear the NEC is coming out with a 24" and one or two larger size UHD screens in May. I'm sure they'd have all the nice 14 bit 3D LUTs and so on.
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Two of the most important words in this rumor: "anti" and "glare"!!
Now if only Apple would follow the same path, at least as an option, I would indeed include the new "4K thunderbolt/cinema" display on my x-mas wish list.
I'd take Apple glare over the nasty, sparkly, heavy AG of NEC (and many others) any day though. Samsung UltraClearPanel is nice.
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Most wide gamut monitors have sRGB emulation modes these days and the really good ones like say NEC PA series and perhaps some of the new Dells with 3D internal LUTs can do perfect sRGB emulations (actually better than any sRGB monitor, since they are almost all a little short or a little off from sRGB in one way or another while the wide gamut monitors with internal 3D LUT can re-program each of the primaries to exactly match sRGB standards and those fancy monitors are super-linear and the color engine keeps saturation tracked perfectly from 0-100% and so on).
You can quickly pop a NEC PA into sRGB gamut with sRGB tone response for web and into sRGB gamut and gamma 2.2 for tv/movies/games and into wide gamut for viewing/editing photos (where stuff like sunsets, flowers, tropical waters, flashy cars, bright clothing, fall foliage, emeralds, golden hour lit scenes, etc. look so much better and more like in real life than on sRGB displays).
And most mid or even lower tier wide gamut monitors have at least passable sRGB emulation modes these days.
Plus MAC color manages the desktop and much of the OS anyway. Windows doesn't so unless you put up a special wide gamut re-mapped wallpaper it glows a bit as do the icons and most UI controls and text but if you use a color-managed web-browers like Firefox the web looks 100% perfect (plus you can see the odd wide gamut image that gets posted, in full glory).
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UGH is the one used on the older NEC PA241,271,301 monitors? It makes the whites all grainy and sparkly? They didn't at least go to the newer version like on the NEC PA242/272/302, not that that is perfect, on this Dell 2414Q?
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Oh good about the coating!
And agree with everything else you said.
Sadly, Dell makes rather ugly monitors. They are the design equivalent of the old K-cars.
I have bought a few of them in the past, tempted by sale prices that made them seem like great bargains. Then you put them on a desk and they they just look so tacky and cheap, that they taint the whole room with their tackiness.
At the end, I could barely give them away - people live with a monitor for years, stare at it for hours every day.
It's more than worth spending two or three hundred dollars more to get a nicely designed Apple monitor, which also adds an integrated webcam and speakers.
Even accounting and shipping departments should not be subjected to Dell's designs....
I have bought a few of them in the past, tempted by sale prices that made them seem like great bargains. Then you put them on a desk and they they just look so tacky and cheap, that they taint the whole room with their tackiness.
At the end, I could barely give them away - people live with a monitor for years, stare at it for hours every day.
It's more than worth spending two or three hundred dollars more to get a nicely designed Apple monitor, which also adds an integrated webcam and speakers.
Even accounting and shipping departments should not be subjected to Dell's designs....