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Apple has published a new ad to appeal to customers in the market for an iPhone and Apple Watch pairing, highlighting the insights it can offer for your health.


Titled simply "Health with iPhone + Apple Watch," the half-minute ad focuses on a woman waiting in line at a cafe who begins receiving unsolicited health and fitness advice from other people in the queue, as well as local residents, drivers, and passersby – and even accompanying pets.

An Apple Watch notification about her new cardio fitness trend cuts through the cacophony, and she subsequently looks into the Health app on iPhone to learn that her cardio fitness is above average. "Listen to your body. Not everybody," says the onscreen slogan, as she grabs her coffee and goes about her day. The YouTube blurb reads:
With iPhone and Apple Watch, you get science-based insights about your health. You see data on things like your heart rate, cycle tracking, cardio fitness, and sleep quality. So you can be more aware of what your body is telling you.
Apple Watch Cardio Fitness determines cardiorespiratory fitness as measured by VO2 max. VO2 max is the maximum amount of oxygen that the body is able to use during exercise, and it can be improved through physical activity. Apple introduced the feature in 2020.

Cardio Fitness is a category in the Health app on iPhone, and fitness level is classified as high, above average, below average, or low relative to people in your same age group and of the same sex. Users can also track how their cardio fitness levels have changed over the past week, month, six months, or year, and if fitness levels fall into the low range, they can get a notification on Apple Watch that includes guidance on improving it.

Article Link: New Apple Ad Sells the iPhone and Apple Watch Health Pairing
 
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Interesting, having a Ultra 2 and a 17PM both on the latest OS versions, I do not have a "Cardio Health" section in the Health app, Cardio Fitness/Recovery yes, but not Health.
What am I missing?
 
Interesting, having a Ultra 2 and a 17PM both on the latest OS versions, I do not have a "Cardio Health" section in the Health app, Cardio Fitness/Recovery yes, but not Health.
What am I missing?
Hi,

It sounds like you are having an issue with the "Cardio Health" section in the Health app, Cardio Fitness/Recovery preseny yes, but not Health.
What is missing?

Have your tried switching it off and then wait 15 seconds, then on again?

Please mark as solved if it helps.
 
One of the poorest health apps and suggestions around. Garmin body battery index and suggestions are in a different class than what the silly Apple Watch can do and suggest.
AW just says “time to stand up”. No reports weekly or monthly. No notifications about “your body is tired based on RHR or VHR or VO2 levels after some x days of exercise, rest for 2 days”. Or “based on x,y,z metrics. It seems you are getting the flu, take a rest”., etc. so many metrics and Apple just drops the ball in health reports.
 
Such a disingenuous ad! Your VO2 Max is measured, only when exercising, and if you are to get a notification, it would be immediately afterwards.
I have notifications turned on, after recent surgery, my VO2 Max has steadily come back from its 15ml/kg/minute drop, and not once had my health app ever notified me.
 
Hi,

It sounds like you are having an issue with the "Cardio Health" section in the Health app, Cardio Fitness/Recovery preseny yes, but not Health.
What is missing?

Have your tried switching it off and then wait 15 seconds, then on again?

Please mark as solved if it helps.
I don't know what's missing, below screenshot is the Heart list of categories in the Health app, just upgraded iPhone to 26.4.2
There just is no "Cardio Health" category - does anyone see it?

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Interesting ad. Not surprising to see Apple focusing on health and at the same time promoting both the devices.
 
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This is what Apple should do. Apple should make Watch Ultra truly standalone, without any dependency, not requiring other device to setup and use. No, I do not want an iPhone; even for free! Free your mind and your hands! Allowing to install any application including web browsers like Safari, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Edge, etc. Add a camera to read QR codes, etc; best if it is telescopic rotating retractable camera in the crown neck (protecting from dust and sweat, besides privacy). Finally, although not as serious as the above, it would be great if Apple also made plastic models (at least as an option) instead of metal: the former have better phone reception since metal blocks signals, weigh much less (you don't even notice you're wearing them 24 hours a day, making them ideal as vibration-only alarm clocks) and feel better to the touch, avoiding excessive heat and cold, for example. Android smartwatches are an example of all this. Then I am sold, even for 1,000 USD or more.
 
One of the poorest health apps and suggestions around. Garmin body battery index and suggestions are in a different class than what the silly Apple Watch can do and suggest.
AW just says “time to stand up”. No reports weekly or monthly. No notifications about “your body is tired based on RHR or VHR or VO2 levels after some x days of exercise, rest for 2 days”. Or “based on x,y,z metrics. It seems you are getting the flu, take a rest”., etc. so many metrics and Apple just drops the ball in health reports.
That's a bit of double-edged sword and I'm dithering between what I prefer myself.

The thing is, yes, Garmin will show many more metrics. However, these metrics are mostly algorithmically derived from only a handful actual measurements, sometimes over multiple degrees. Say for example body battery is based on training load and on sleep, but sleep itself is based on movement and heart rate etc. There is no "direct" measurement of body battery.

The problem is that sleep tracking, for example, on Garmin is not very accurate (whereas Apple Watch is surprisingly good) compared to a proper polysomnography. Which then of course raises the question of the accuracy of the body battery metric as well.

And some metrics are based on HRV during the night, but there isn't really a scientific consensus about what this really tells us. There's some "schools of thought" that suggest it makes more sense to just take a HRV snapshot in the morning, ideally after or with some orthostatic stressor like standing or sitting (see here for example).

Now to be clear, Apple Watch doesn't do that on its own, but can you use with apps like HRV4Training mentioned in the link before.

What I'm saying is, Garmin does show more metrics, but you will have to consider how trustworthy these metrics actually are. Apple seems to approach things more with a "show less, but what we show is reliable" attitude.

I think both approaches have pros and cons.
 
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I don't know what's missing, below screenshot is the Heart list of categories in the Health app, just upgraded iPhone to 26.4.2
There just is no "Cardio Health" category - does anyone see it?

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Yes - it’s underneath Cardio Fitness.

If you go to Health>Show All Health Data and scroll down it should be on that screen for you?

This is mine from that route.


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iPhone+Apple Watch pairing then you look at your bank account health : it did definitely loose weight !
😁 definitely not the cheapest ecosystem to enter Apple is, but some folks in here are straight up crazy upgrading every hardware release cycle.
 
One of the poorest health apps and suggestions around. Garmin body battery index and suggestions are in a different class than what the silly Apple Watch can do and suggest.
AW just says “time to stand up”. No reports weekly or monthly. No notifications about “your body is tired based on RHR or VHR or VO2 levels after some x days of exercise, rest for 2 days”. Or “based on x,y,z metrics. It seems you are getting the flu, take a rest”., etc. so many metrics and Apple just drops the ball in health reports.
Apple Watch is kind of like the TRD Tacos you see sitting at the fringes of a park or state forest, glimmering safely on the pavement or a gravel lot just off the pavement.

Garmin is like an '09 Forester you see on one of the old logging roads, clearly loved but with some character. "Style Life" vs Lifestyle.
 
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I had Apple Watch since the very first one came out. I used it every single day! I thought I loved it. I lived by what it told me. But over the next 10 years I got lazy because of it. I gained over 85lbs. I was distracted all the time. Then on January 1, 2025, I ditched Apple Watch for good. Now I’m a die hard Apple user. I’ve been using since 1986ish when I was 5. I’ve owned so many devices over the years and I will continue to use Apple. But Apple Watch was a huge distraction and made me lazy, fat and almost unemployed. But when I got rid of Apple Watch, I started to feel connected to life again. I lost almost 100lbs since ditching Apple Watch. I’ve been more productive than ever with work too. In one year I started 4 businesses and got myself promoted to CTO at my day job. I have so many projects and companies going on right now that if I still had Apple Watch I wouldn’t be able to handle it all. Since ditching it I get up at 5am, I workout 6 days a week at 530am. I start work at 7 and get 3 hours of my personal business in before I head to my day job. I crush it there in 4-6 hours. I’ve built AI assistants that help me get 10-12 hours of work done in that 4-6 hour time. It’s great. The owners of our company noticed and praise me.

I suggest you all do the same too. Get rid of Apple Watch if you care about your mental and physical health.
 
A big perk to the Apple Watch, and Apple Health, is that it's an open database for other services and apps to use. People ******** on Apple Health itself should look at those options. I highly recommend Bevel, I find it incredibly useful as an athlete pushing 40.
 
I had Apple Watch since the very first one came out. I used it every single day! I thought I loved it. I lived by what it told me. But over the next 10 years I got lazy because of it. I gained over 85lbs. I was distracted all the time. Then on January 1, 2025, I ditched Apple Watch for good. Now I’m a die hard Apple user. I’ve been using since 1986ish when I was 5. I’ve owned so many devices over the years and I will continue to use Apple. But Apple Watch was a huge distraction and made me lazy, fat and almost unemployed. But when I got rid of Apple Watch, I started to feel connected to life again. I lost almost 100lbs since ditching Apple Watch. I’ve been more productive than ever with work too. In one year I started 4 businesses and got myself promoted to CTO at my day job. I have so many projects and companies going on right now that if I still had Apple Watch I wouldn’t be able to handle it all. Since ditching it I get up at 5am, I workout 6 days a week at 530am. I start work at 7 and get 3 hours of my personal business in before I head to my day job. I crush it there in 4-6 hours. I’ve built AI assistants that help me get 10-12 hours of work done in that 4-6 hour time. It’s great. The owners of our company noticed and praise me.

I suggest you all do the same too. Get rid of Apple Watch if you care about your mental and physical health.
Tim Cook would love to hear from you.
 
I have had an Apple Watch since the second generation which morphed into all three versions of the Ultra Watch over time. The reality for me is I am not a fitness person. I like all the information it provides me and I do make an effort to keep moving. My criteria is the emergency response in case of an accident and the expanded communication capacity of the recent Ultra to include satellite.

Despite all the negative comments, Siri can be instructed to text my wife using the watch while driving and it works just like it should. Siri can set timers for the morning coffee. I have very low expectations of Siri and it works for me as it is.

I have a trip coming up for a camera school in a different state and no need for any of the Apple Watch functionality sitting in a class room. So I will wear my 59 year old Rolex Pepsi Oyster watch as it displays two time zones and date the same as always since 1967 when I bought it new after being commissioned as an officer in the US Navy. It cost $375 then and is worth over $5,000 now.

The Apple watch products seem loose to lose 50% of the cost value as you walk out the door of the Apple Store after just purchasing the unit. An Apple Watch will not be an heirloom for the grandkids.
 
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