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New Apple Portables To Drop FireWire Support?

Most OS X users at my university use Classic apps

yellow said:
Really? You're still invested in OS9? Even after 4+ years?
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Sadly, most faculty that are mac users are forced to use Classic at my university if they want email. The IT department installs the most recent version of MS Office, but won't allow us to use Entourage. We have to use Outlook on Classic for 1) Exchange compatability and 2) behavior with networked home directories. Entourage has too many email corruption problems. Sucks, eh? Without classic they'd be screwed!
 
zap2 said:
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i dont use FW for anything other then my iPo but if i update then i wont use FW ever
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How about a external hard drive, camera (4 gigs takes a while on USB), Video camera, other computer file transfer, etc.
This sucks big time. I'll be pissed if this is true
 
This must be april fools

What would be the point of imovie if your *book didn't have firewire. There surely can be no way that Apple would dump iMovie on domestic kit so I cannot believe that they would loose FWire. I mean how else would you get the video accross, USB wont do it. Unless of course there is some intel deal going on... nah can't be, what a sell out.
 
This won't happen. Apple will then not be able to use all exisiting FireWire devices, it isn't even like FireWire is slow or something. This is really...really...REALLY stupid if this were to happen. I seriously hope this DOESN'T happen. I have an odd feeling that it might though...this scares me....:(

If they do drop it, they better include a damn converter, or we'll raise hell!! Right, Who's with me!?!?:mad:

Lynxpro said:
Of course, I'm currently amazed that Apple's "Airport" sub-brand has not been updated to include Pre-N transfers.
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That might be around the corner. Or maybe Apple will wait until the Pre-N is finalized...:rolleyes:
 
You know, no one would consider this credible if Apple hadn't just dropped Firwire on the iPods not so long ago. Law of unintended consequences, I guess.

And maybe Arn put it on the front page in order to make a point. The negative reviews are enormous for this decision. Maybe it's his way of pointing this out to any surfing Apple execs. :cool:
 
artifex said:
don't discount an eventual move to be able to boot from USB someday, regardless of what happens to FW.
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The Macintel transition kits have been widely reported to boot from USB but not FireWire. We'll have to see if that carries over to production models.
 
iMeowbot said:
The Macintel transition kits have been widely reported to boot from USB but not FireWire. We'll have to see if that carries over to production models.
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I hope it does, because if indeed this happened, then Mac users couldn't boot off of anything besides a CD/DVD or Network disk. Now that I think of it more I don't think Apple will do this, then they'll have to change the iSight, offer 800 to 400 adapters, and somehow make a USB Target Disk Mode (which won't support older Macs), this is starting to seem very silly :p
 
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i just don't think it's going to happen...way too much effort put into development, and too many people with an isight. i dont know about anyone else, but i dont want to have to keep track of an adapter to get my isight hooked up to my new laptop...
 
Pre-N

Lynxpro said:
I would hope that this alliance with Intel will bring the other Intel technologies such as PCIe and SATA to all of Apple's product lineups; not just Intel microprocessors and "Centrino" chipsets. Of course, I'm currently amazed that Apple's "Airport" sub-brand has not been updated to include Pre-N transfers.
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Maybe that's because a number of vendors that have sold Pre-N devices are currently being sued for false performance claims. Apple might have decided to stay out of that fray.
 
bloogersnigen said:
How about a external hard drive, camera (4 gigs takes a while on USB), Video camera, other computer file transfer, etc.
This sucks big time. I'll be pissed if this is true
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I don't use it i know thats there are TONS of thing thats do and i would be mad if the drop it but the effects on me will be small
 
400 Firewire Usage

I'd loose the following..

Two Firewire Connected Camcorders (Sony brands)
One firewire printer (large format, can use USB but faster w/ FW)
One Studio/TV Formac tuner, use it & love it.
Four Firewire powered hard drives (connected to one computer!!)
Four Firewire connected hard drives (powered by electricity & connected)
(yes, that's 8 firewire hard drives total!!)
One iChat Firewire camera!
One Firewire Epson Scanner (I think, it has USB but again, FW is faster!)
One Firewire Card reader

That's what's connected into ONE of my Mac's...all of that, all of it on Firewire. Only half has USB (hard drives do NOT, nor does the Formac).

Christopher Powers
 
Nope, I don't believe it. FireWire is far too important to everyone. How will we get video off our camcorders without it?
 
Only way i can see this working is if there is a wireless type of device built in. Where you can acess your FW devices wirelessly, like bluethooth type thing. But that could still be a headace... having to keep up with adapters, and if no adapters than Apple would have to get the other Camocorder companies to create a FW wireless type thing on thier devices, just to much work,

Bottom line:
I WANT MY FIREWIRE WIRED! NO FLIPPIN AA Battery POWERED ADAPTER! :mad:
 
iMeowbot said:
The Macintel transition kits have been widely reported to boot from USB but not FireWire. We'll have to see if that carries over to production models.
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A fair number of recent BIOS can start off of USB... since the MacIntel kits have BIOSes and recent ones at that, its reasonable that they can start up off of USB. But the replacement to Open Firmware should deal with both.

I'd hope that we see FW400 and FW800 as well as USB 2.0 target disk modes. Currently, only the primary-master hard drive will show up under FWTDM but maybe that will change...

Oh, I'm a fan of FireWire 400; my Shuffle is noticeably slower than any other iPod I've seen via FireWire. My friend has a hard drive at it is amazing how much faster it is with FireWire and not USB.
 
Texas04 said:
Only way i can see this working is if there is a wireless type of device built in. Where you can acess your FW devices wirelessly, like bluethooth type thing. But that could still be a headace... having to keep up with adapters, and if no adapters than Apple would have to get the other Camocorder companies to create a FW wireless type thing on thier devices, just to much work,

Bottom line:
I WANT MY FIREWIRE WIRED! NO FLIPPIN AA Battery POWERED ADAPTER! :mad:
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Actually if Apple can achieve 800mbps through a wireless firewire setup I will be *extremely* interested in it.

I can probably spend some coin getting a few wireless harddrive cases and Woah.. huge storage array from my PB.
 
What about starting up off of external hard drives? :eek: Apple can not afford to loose that feature it is far too valuable.
 
relax, and realize this for what it is: utter bs. the only way apple would drop fw400 is to replace it with fw800 and possibly add a new standard (like fw2000 would be nice). I don't see how this rumour has a scrap of credibility, next they'll have us believe that apple is dropping the use of monitors and switching forevermore to printer output.
 
Mechcozmo said:
A fair number of recent BIOS can start off of USB... since the MacIntel kits have BIOSes and recent ones at that, its reasonable that they can start up off of USB. But the replacement to Open Firmware should deal with both.
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I certainly hope we can boot from firewire in future. The intel transition better not be a "we've given you this, however, ..... has to go".
 
yup

Texas04 said:
Only way i can see this working is if there is a wireless type of device built in. Where you can acess your FW devices wirelessly, like bluethooth type thing. But that could still be a headace... having to keep up with adapters, and if no adapters than Apple would have to get the other Camocorder companies to create a FW wireless type thing on thier devices, just to much work,

Bottom line:
I WANT MY FIREWIRE WIRED! NO FLIPPIN AA Battery POWERED ADAPTER! :mad:
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As I mentioned earlier - it IS going wireless... at least that is very likely. All of Apple is going wireless... seriously, I actually believe that is going to happen - and the adapter thing might just not be a hassle - if the adapter is AC powered, and you can keep the periferals in a corner/other room or something... 25m range is quite a lot if that rumor is true... and we know they are working on wirelss iPods...

You buy a new media iMac to keep in your living room, and the keyboard is wireless, the mouse is, the networking is - but then you suddenly have to stack it up with cameras, scanners, printers, iPods, harddrives and god knows what that still need cables... remember digicams just got wifi (substitutes USB) - now the rest is getting dedicated 400Mbs "wireless FireWire" - it just makes sense! especially as portables go - one wireless firewire hub to connect them all, and you still have access to your periferals from the couch and all...
 
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