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New Apple Studio Display vs. Dell UltraSharp 32" 4K U3223QE

I ended up going with the LG LG 32UL750-W, and I am so glad I did. 4K on a 32" monitor is just right, and I am sure I would have been upset at spending much more money, only being able to run 4K on the ASD, and possibly not even being able to have it at 4K as the text would be too small to read on a 27".

Also got a Logitech Brio Webcam to go with the LG, and as I am using a pair of HomePods for sound, I am happy...

Only thing is that I would have liked to try the Dell UL3223QE also, but I can't get that one to test out, without having to pay a restocking fee if I don't want it. The LG I can...
 

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Does anyone have the Dell UltraSharp UP3221Q 31.5" 16:9 PremierColor 4K HDR IPS Monitor or U2720Q UltraSharp 27" 16:9 UHD IPS. I want the studio display but want something larger as I already have 27" NEC PA271 for photo/video editing.

I am just concerned that the dell 31.5 is 140ppi and 27" is 163ppi whereas the apple studio display is 200+ ppi. I saw the studio display at the apple store and loved how crisp the text was and the saturation.

I just got the 14" MBP and want a larger screen with HDR so that's why I want to get the dell 31.5". Is the lower ppi on dell a dealbreaker?
 
Killerbob said:
Given yesterday's announcement of the new Studio Display, I am now in doubt... I have a 2013 Mac Pro (MacPro6,1) that I use with two ATDs. I want to upgrade to an IPS 4K (at least), 27-32" monitor, and thus far I thought I was going to get the Dell U3223QE.

  • The Dell is obviously bigger - 31.5" vs. 27".
  • The Studio Display has a decent webcam, but the Dell is a thousand bucks cheaper, and I can get a webcam, and stil have leftover money.
  • They are both IPS monitors.
  • The Studio Display is 5K, but I will only be able to run it at 4K using my 2013 Mac Pro.
  • They both have a glass surface.
  • The Dell will pivot, the Studio Display will not.
  • The Studio Display has higher brightness (600 nits vs. 400).
  • They both have USB-C downstream ports.

Am I missing anything?
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Yes, the Dell is based on LG’s new IPS Black technology, which doubles the contrast. So it has a better panel but a cheaper chassis ;)
 
docPigg said:
Yes, the Dell is based on LG’s new IPS Black technology, which doubles the contrast. So it has a better panel but a cheaper chassis ;)
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I actually ended up getting the LG 32UL950-W. The Dell doesn't work well with older Macs, and I am connecting this monitor to my 2013 Mac Pro. The LG connects via Thunderbolt, and has no problems with 4K@60Hz, whereas the Dell connects via Displayport, and that means 30Hz on a 2013 Mac Pro.
 
Killerbob said:
The LG connects via Thunderbolt, and has no problems with 4K@60Hz, whereas the Dell connects via Displayport, and that means 30Hz on a 2013 Mac Pro.
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DisplayPort 1.2 on the 2013 Mac Pro will give you 4K60 just fine. That was one of its main selling points.

The problem (AFAICS) is that the Dell seems to require DisplayPort 1.4 for 4K60. The LG supports DisplayPort 1.2 (via Thunderbolt and/or plain DisplayPort) and will thus do 4K60 on older systems.
 
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Killerbob said:
I actually ended up getting the LG 32UL950-W. The Dell doesn't work well with older Macs, and I am connecting this monitor to my 2013 Mac Pro. The LG connects via Thunderbolt, and has no problems with 4K@60Hz, whereas the Dell connects via Displayport, and that means 30Hz on a 2013 Mac Pro.
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My 2013 Mac Pro runs my Dell 4K display at 60Hz without an issue via Display Port.
 
vddobrev said:
My 2013 Mac Pro runs my Dell 4K display at 60Hz without an issue via Display Port.
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How you are doing that I don't know. The Dell requires DP1.4 for 4K@60Hz, and the 2013 Mac Pro doesn't do that...
 
For the people who have 32" 4K, what resolution do you have it set at? I have a 27" 4K, and the resolution is set at 2560 x 1440. However, I would like to know if using 32", I can set it at higher resolution? If I set it at a higher resolution on the 27", the text becomes too small, but maybe this is okay on the 32" 4K? display?
 
On my LG 32UN880-B I can go as higher as 3008x1692 without getting my eyes suffering. Above that, text becomes unreadable for me. However, I have my LG 32UN880-B set at 2560x1440 as it does the right text size from my seating position. When I get my ASDs delivered, I'm planing on running them at 2560x1440 as well like I used to do with my iMac 5K Retina.
 
I have my 2 LG 32UL950-W monitors set at 3840x2160/60Hz. It works well for me, and text is tack sharp.
 
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What I'm trying to figure out is how many more rows of text you can see on the 32" compared to the 27". For me, the text on the 27" 4K is fine to read. I'm trying to figure out if you can see more rows of text on the 32" 4K and how much fuzzier the text may end up being compared to a 27" at 4K.
 
andrewj said:
What I'm trying to figure out is how many more rows of text you can see on the 32" compared to the 27". For me, the text on the 27" 4K is fine to read. I'm trying to figure out if you can see more rows of text on the 32" 4K and how much fuzzier the text may end up being compared to a 27" at 4K.
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The lines would be the same (@4K), just on a bigger screen... If you are happy with 4K on a 27" screen, you would have to get a 5K screen at for instance 32" to see more lines.
 
I am just back from shopping, and picked up the Dell U3223QE. Was deciding between the Dell and the Apple Studio Display, which I saw in person and was not impressed. It is the same old 5K iMac panel, that I sold back in 2017 because it was like a mirror, and went with a Dell 4K P2715Q with matte screen. So upgrading to a 32" 4K.

I am using it with my Intel Mac mini 2018.

In my own opinion, the Dell U3223QE beats the Apple Studio Display hands down on all counts except resolution and brightness. I chose the Dell U3223QE because:

- Matte screen
- Bigger than the ASD
- Way cheaper, in local currency, it was 1950 vs 4999
- Multiple inputs - DP, USB-C, HDMI - I can plugin my Mac mini, and my work laptop
- USB-C hub (unbelievable, I plugged in all my peripherals, and still have one USB-A and one USB-C free)
- Tilt, height, and swivel adjustable stand included in the price
- Minimal basels, far narrower than the Apple display
- No fans in the display (to suck in dust). Coming from an iMac that developed the infamous stain-gate in the lower corners of the display.
- At 32", full 4K resolution seems perfect, and 1:1 pixel mapping is less taxing on the GPU
- Sitting 80cm form the display, I do not see pixels, so this is retina to me.
- 400 nits is plenty for me don't care for more, neither HDR.

My display is manufactured in November 2021, RevA00. I do not see any back light bleed, there is none. There is IPS glow, but that is natural and expected for this technology. I tried to take a picture in total darkness, but it comes soooo overblown, like all 4 corners of the display seem so bright... Now I know that all pics posted are just an exaggeration, the display looks completely dark and uniform in total darkens (excluding the unavoidable IPS glow).

Colours look perfect to me, but I am not a phot/video person, I am a software developer, and I don't care about color profiles, I just use the Standard setting, and brightness adjustment.

This display is a keeper, I am so glad I compared it to the Apple Studio Display and picked the Dell.
 
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Is text sharp when you scale the Dell U3223QE down to 3008 px or 2560x1440 px? I suppose the Studio Display at 2560x1440 px is way better or am I wrong?
 
Killerbob said:
The lines would be the same (@4K), just on a bigger screen... If you are happy with 4K on a 27" screen, you would have to get a 5K screen at for instance 32" to see more lines.
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To follow up on this, I have a MBP connected to a Dell 27" 4K and a Dell 32" 4K. The 27" is set at 2560 x 1440 and the 32" is set at 3008 x 1692.

The size of the text is comparable on both screens.

As a reference point, with an Excel spreadsheet zoomed at 100%, on the 27" display you can see 75 rows x AM columns compared to on the 32" display, you can see 89 row x AS columns. So you actually do see more rows and columns on a 32" 4K display. Which works out great for my uses (mainly editing text, presentations, etc.)

(My initial thought was that on the 32" display, the text size would just be bigger. But you can change the scaled resolution settings on the Mac so that the text size can remain the same on both monitors so that this way you see more rows and columns of text.)
 
I'm legally blind and I have never set a monitor below its highest native resolution--including 4K and 5K. There is all manner of zoom and font adjustment tricks you do to increase text size. Lowering screen resolution is a last resort I never have to use. Play around with system and app settings, folks.
 
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