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The average "HD" movie is less than 2 GB. But Apple is streaming most of this.

My guess is apple stores no more than 100MB per movie or TV show on the device to ensure buffering and playback quality. The fact that is it able to play in seconds of hitting the buy/rent button supports this.

Therefore there could be several gigs of app space left over even with as many as 30 movies and videos rented and ready for viewing.

I'm hoping it'll queue up more than that, maybe the whole thing? My internet connection is spotty, so I like just renting a movie the current AppleTV and letting it download most of the way before watching it.
 
I'm reading some of the comments and it's kind of funny only because the new Apple TV isn't designed to do some of the "I wish/hope it does _____" features. I guess if I want a full computer, with real apps, internet browsing, email and such for my TV I'm buying a MacMini (Yes, I know, more expensive)

(I know, it would be cool if a $99 device did this too :) )
 
iPad > Apple TV > iPhone > iPod Touch

instead of

iPod Touch = Apple TV = iPad < iPhone

Apple has not Spec'd the RAM to go with the functionality of these devices..... :confused:

I love all the >, <, and = in there for the nice visual but are you RAM ninjas that dense? This is not a Windows OS that doesn't know how to manage effectively therefore requires gobs of RAM to work. You Apple lovers don't give iOS enough credit especially considering the tight integration with the processor. Geez. This is not a Windows World with "more RAM required to work" as a theme.
 
"The power supply rating comes in at a minuscule 5.95 watts."

Guess that means I won't be able to cook breakfast on my Apple TV anymore.
 
Don't forget that iPad apps are generally larger in size than iPhone / iPod Touch apps.

The larger screen real estate is going to generate some big apps.

Apple TV apps would primarily be streaming apps. They wouldn't be that big.
 
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And it costs less than the 8 GB iPod Nano but can play video................

Weird.

The display is the most expensive single part of any iOS product.
 
I'm hoping it'll queue up more than that, maybe the whole thing? My internet connection is spotty, so I like just renting a movie the current AppleTV and letting it download most of the way before watching it.

The Apple engineers are smarter than me. I'm sure they will have you covered! :)

Frankly I don't care about an AppleTV app store.

Just give me the ability to Airplay ALL screen audio and video content viewable on my iPad or iPhone and I'd be a very happy man. (And I think the AppleTVs would fly off the shelves.)
 
Exactly the responses I was expecting from this thread. Users that are convinced that it needs more RAM, despite the fact that it can do the job just fine....and others that want more storage even though you only currently need to store the OS on the device.

Don't mind me, I'm just bitter that I can't buy the bloody thing in the Netherlands. ;)

People really can't seem to wrap their heads around RAM on integrated devices. The PS3 has 256 system memory, 256 video. The 360 has 512 shared. You don't need a pile of RAM to drive them; these are well tuned machines, not the bloated world of desktop computing.
 
Stream the apps and app data as well...

Given the Apple TV is built for streaming there is no reason to have all your apps loaded into memory all the time. They can be loaded on demand either from your local Mac or from the iTunes store.
 
I picked up on his as well...

The remote from the iPhone and iPad work over WiFi so why would you need Bluetooth on the device.

Interesting teardown and it's amazing how little components there is to make this device work. We really are making breakthroughs in modern technology.

It has a WiFi chip that supports Bluetooth and FM, that unfortunately doesn't mean that either are enabled.

Bluetooth would be great for... I don't know... a game controller...
 
:) I had a feeling this would be the case, I thought it'd have about 4gb of storage for various things so 8gb is a pleasant surprise! Now if only TNT can get their finger out and get their 747 off the ground and pointed toward the UK so I can have mine!
 
Really? Do you have like 3 Apps or something?

My iPhone has quite a few Apps on it and uses about 10+ GB of the memory.

Yea dude, i think you're a little off there. Unless you have every app available on the app store, you can't possibly have that much storage taken up. And be honest, how many of those apps do you ACTUALLY use? Or at least on a regular basis?
 
Really? Do you have like 3 Apps or something?

My iPhone has quite a few Apps on it and uses about 10+ GB of the memory.

I have over 141 apps on my iPad that consume 4.3gb and 246 apps on my iPhone 4 that consume 8.3gb and about 1/2 on each are that big because of storing maps or large documents. What apps are you using that would add up to 10+ GB???? It has to be something that is storing files, or tons of maps or something else... Something probably not needed on an AppleTV.
 
Plugged it into a watt meter, draws about 1.2 watts at idle. That's an eco friendly STB right there.
 
Ok now we need XBMC / BOXEE compiled for ARM :).
When I see that, I will pick one of this up immediately.
 
I said in another news thread it would probably have 8GB flash memory. I'm sure the OS is on that. In addition you probably need some space for streaming storage. What is unclear is if you rent a movie or tv show, does it stream right away, when you are ready to watch. In the past you had 30 days to watch it and 24 or 48 hours to finish it once you started. With this version unless they go completely cloud and just provide a buffer stream you would still need space to store the downloaded movie till you watch it, and iTunes HD movies weigh in upwards of 6GB.

The thing that I will want to find out about the most is that I use my current ATV to stream music and movies from my Mac, but while music is playing there are over 500 photos synced to the ATV that appear through the floating screensaver, which also engages when a movie is pause for 2 minutes or the unit is otherwise idle. Do they still have this functionality. Can you designate photos, events, albums, etc. for the screensaver. That is how we see most of our pictures.
 
:) I love this, I said even before there was real talk about the new Apple TV what I wanted out of it, part of it was 16GB or less storage - I don't want to sync to it...

8GB is pretty good though. I wish they used those Dock connector solder pads though, remember the original Mac Mini had Dock connector pads?

I really can't wait for that TNT man to deliver my package now!

Apps are going to be brilliant whenever they are released, completely different to the way apps are presented on a computer too.
 
8GB allows you to cue up many shows. They load a certain amount immediately and then are ready to watch.
 
Not really, as it is not meant to work offline. You only need enough to buffer out network glitches and avoid dropped frames or pauses. 8 GB is way overkill for that purpose, probably 1 GB would be plenty. H.264 video at 720p, let's say they encode the video at 10 Mbps (which is high, it's probably half of that), that's about 13 minutes per GB, more than enough buffer for a smooth stream.

I would hope the ATV is smart enough to stream the entire movie into the buffer if there is enough time. quite often I start a download late night and watch the movie next day.

It would be good not to be dependent on the internet service in cambridge in the evenings when every student starts to download Pr0n and the network slows down. also I don't want to slow down my own network because when I watch a movie my GF might still want to surf or work online.
 
I think this is excellent news, primarily for the jailbreak community. My wish is that a port for the Plex app or Klexi HD can make its way onto the :apple:TV. I cannot overstate how awesome Klexi is on my iPad. Streaming via AirPlay would be a nice start, but either app on the device locally would really make the :apple:TV2 a killer device.
 
Power Consumption

"The power supply rating comes in at a minuscule 5.95 watts"

Does that mean that this machines has a max power consumption of 6W?
 
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