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I'm sure Apple has a passing interest in the gaming market as it could be an extra source of revenue for them, but it's pretty clear at this point that Apple TV games aren't going to be Wii/PlayStation/Xbox competition (at least not anytime soon).

This. Apple has no direct interest in directly competing in the current console gaming market as it exists today. They prefer to create their own new (more profitable) market. As they did with mobile phones and the Apps store, they will grow a new customer base from a streaming tv box with apps, and grow the App store game revenues by another several $Billions/annum. Then even the high-end game console developers will no longer be able to ignore the Apple TV's customer base, and will build brand new content tuned to that platform, instead of trying to force fit current legacy console stuff.

The new platform will then drain customers from current console game genres, and make them into vintage stuff that mostly old people (parents of "real" gamers) play.

Few people saw the (gen 2) iPhone 3G as the start of a $multi-Billion game platform. Same thing will repeat itself with the gen4 Apple TV.
 
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4k video gives you more head-room to edit (crop, reframe, digital zoom/pan, etc.) videos down to 1080P and still end up with pro quality results after all the edits. Or be able to extract high(er) quality still photos out of the 4k video.

I know that, but do you really think Apple released 4K video capability targeting pro users?
 
Nope, most people still have 720 or 1080 tv's. Why spend the extra $20 or so to make the hardware powerful enough to play 4K if 90% of people who buys the Apple TV cannot view the content?
People don't have 4K TVs because video sources don't output 4K.
There aren't 4K video sources because people don't have 4K TVs.
In the past, Apple has been the chicken or the egg when it comes to screen resolution. We'd probably still be using 1080p laptop screens otherwise.
 
It makes sense. Most people will not have a controller. The last thing Apple wants is to fracture the ability to play/use every app in the store.

Bluetooth supports up to 7 devices, so it would be odd for Apple to limit it even further.

This suggests to me that Apple has reserved some slots for other peripherals - keyboard, bluetooth headphones, etc? I presume the iPhone will communicate via WiFi rather than Bluetooth (this is a feature of Bluetooth for a while).

7 devices might have seemed a reasonable limit back in 1994 when it was first created, but it seems a bit limiting today. The PS4 has a similar issue with wireless controllers allowed, but at least they allow move than 2!
 
Criticize Apple all you want for holding back features (and I see your point here, don't get me wrong; you'd think they'd either go all-in on this gaming thing or just not bother with third party controller support)...

Oh come on. There is no opinion whats-so-ever in that comment. There is no criticism and there is no point other than to state a fact for the people who are too dense to see the single-common trend of Apple's investment into their products.

If you saw it as criticism, then that is entirely contrived by your own mind.
 
The PS4 only supports 4 bluetooth controllers and doesn't support bluetooth headsets, which the PS3 did...
I know this because I was trying to connect my bluetooth headset last week and spent some time trying to figure out why I couldn't.
 
Oh come on. There is no opinion whats-so-ever in that comment. There is no criticism and there is no point other than to state a fact for the people who are too dense to see the single-common trend of Apple's investment into their products.

If you saw it as criticism, then that is entirely contrived by your own mind.

I think the sarcastic implication of the comment implies that they think Apple does too much in the way of gradual upgrades and not enough in the way of massive changes and revolutionary products. While I agree that Apple could do more, we also need to be realistic about Apple's abilities here. They're a huge, immensely successful company, but they're a company nonetheless, and they therefore have to keep profit in mind. They didn't get successful by changing the world on an annual basis. Most of their product releases are iterative upgrades, and that includes when Jobs was running the show.

What is Apple supposed to do? Cure cancer? Beam information into our brains? I guess I don't get what people want them to do so badly (besides make a hybrid laptop/tablet; they really need to do that).
 
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