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I wonder if it works with movies playing directly on appletv. That's an annoying feature of the old model that you have to control volume through the speakers rather than through the appletv itself.

It looks it will. The screenshot in the App Store distinctly shows seperate levels for an Apple TV vs what are likely speakers hooked up through an Express.

The ability to control multiple computers, sending to individual AppleTV's and Expresses while controlling volume and content individually is a great improvement for my application ... 7 music zones throughout the house, 5 TV's, cat5 everywhere and wife and child with iphones but always asking me "how do i turn on the movie". Glad i didn't waste my time putting in rotary knobs in all the zones!

I think Apple just killed Sonos. If all this could run off of a NAS I would be really excited!
 
It looks it will. The screenshot in the App Store distinctly shows seperate levels for an Apple TV vs what are likely speakers hooked up through an Express.

Yeah but that's showing airplay right? I can adjust volume being sent to appletv via itunes and airtunes now, but i can't adjust the volume of a movie played normally through the appletv interface. We'll see I guess.
 
NAS Library

Does anyone know whether the new ATV would be able to read content from a NAS? My itunes library resides there. My Macbooks point to that library when I'm in my home network and I open iTunes. Would the ATV be able to read from it without an iTunes client to be the middle man?
 
stream ripped content??

Can I rip already owned content not purcheased through the itunes store into itunes and have it streamed through appletv? I have tons of movies and cds from my own collection, so I assume if I add them into itunes it will work. Hopefully video podcasts will as well? Anybody know about this?
 
Does anyone know whether the new ATV would be able to read content from a NAS? My itunes library resides there. My Macbooks point to that library when I'm in my home network and I open iTunes. Would the ATV be able to read from it without an iTunes client to be the middle man?

From what I have read (obvious disclaimer there) it seems that you still need a computer on with iTunes running. Not sure what will happen if you have a NAS with a iTunes server software built in; speculation at this moment is that you will have to have a client running. Guess we will have to wait until we get one these bad boys fired up...
 
From what I have read (obvious disclaimer there) it seems that you still need a computer on with iTunes running. Not sure what will happen if you have a NAS with a iTunes server software built in; speculation at this moment is that you will have to have a client running. Guess we will have to wait until we get one these bad boys fired up...

I'll definitely be curious to hear about people's experiences. My NAS currently isn't running an itunes server software, but it could, if that was the difference between it working or not! Definitely something to keep my eyes open for. Otherwise, my "vintage" AppleTV will do for now.
 
Can I rip already owned content not purcheased through the itunes store into itunes and have it streamed through appletv? I have tons of movies and cds from my own collection, so I assume if I add them into itunes it will work. Hopefully video podcasts will as well? Anybody know about this?

The reponses I have read say that if you can play it through the iTunes on your computer than you can play it through the ATV. I have been putting my DVD collection into iTunes just for this reason.
 
The reponses I have read say that if you can play it through the iTunes on your computer than you can play it through the ATV. I have been putting my DVD collection into iTunes just for this reason.

You would be correct. Out of the 98 movies I stream to my appletv, only like 5 of them were actually bought on iTunes. If you couldn't stream ripped movies, I wouldn't use an appletv.
 
Not a very deep review...

Honestly, it appears the guy never saw the original Apple TV, which could do largely the same things (except for Netflix and AirPlay) and yet never became a hit. And like he says, Netflix streaming is built into everything these days so you probably already have it on your TV or your Blu-Ray player or Game Console (Wii, XBox 360, PS3) etc. Probably not a reason to get an Apple TV honestly.

The most interesting thing about the new Apple TV to me is the AirPlay functionality, and the problem is we just don't know what apps it will work with. Sure YouTube will work. And the Apple Video player app. But what about Hulu Plus? If the content itself is wrapped in DRM and can't be played by the Apple TV natively will it still work? Will Hulu allow it to work? What about SlingPlayer--almost certainly not an h.264 stream, so it almost certainly can't be played by the Apple TV. How about the ABC app? Seems likely the content is in the right format, but its clearly not using the Apple video player given the ad inserts and such. Can it work? Will ABC let it work?

Even something as simple as HTML5 playback via Safari is an unknown. In theory this should work and would allow CBS.com videos, as well as the TV Anywhere demos both Comcast and Time Warner have done on iPads to work. Will it?
 
New Apple TV Reviewed, Revamped 'Remote' App for iOS Coming?

Sure will be nice mounting the television anywhere I want without having to move coax cables all over the place and trying to find a place to hide them.
 
The reponses I have read say that if you can play it through the iTunes on your computer than you can play it through the ATV. I have been putting my DVD collection into iTunes just for this reason.

This is almost true. To make it true, if you can play it within iTunes AND it falls within the specs of what the :apple:TV can handle, it will play on :apple:TV. The video file specs are at: http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html

iTunes can play video that :apple:TV can't handle. For example, if you shoot some 1080i/p content with an HD camcorder, you can use iMovie to edit & render it back out as a 1080i/p mp4, and that file will go right into iTunes- and play there- just fine. But :apple:TV will need you to down-convert it to a lower resolution that it can pump from your iTunes database to your HDTV.

Everything SD- like any old SD camcorder video, DVD rips, Laserdisc, old VHS transfers, etc. should easily work out. Just use Handbrake and its AppleTV setting. Apparently, everything shot with iDevice video cameras max out at the :apple:TVs specs as well, so any SD or HD you shoot with an iDevice should be fine too.

Otherwise, anything you have at higher resolutions- HD Camcorder video, BD or HD-DVD rips, etc, will all need to be reformatted down to either 720p30fps or 960 x 540. Again, Handbrake is your friend for down-conversions for higher HD source resolution like 1920 x 1080p/i to the 1280 x 720p or 960 x 540 that :apple:TV can play.

It is a joy to have immediately-available access to all such content on demand. As someone else implied, I've found tremendous utility for years on home-grown content and personal video collections converted for Apple TV, yet I've hardly bought or rented anything from iTunes. Apple TV is a tremendous replacement for physical devices like CD or DVD jukeboxes or players, photo slide projectors or albums, and similar. One never needs to spend a dime at the iTunes store to get a whole lot out of these little boxes- especially if you already have a good collection of video & audio media... and Handbrake... and some storage.
 
Will AirPlay replace or be Quicktime Streaming Server X?

I would like to see a pro H264 streaming server from Apple. Something that
would be useful in creating an alternative to Flumotion WebTV but with Final Cut Server as the catalog backend.

Google did purchase Episodic recently, hopefully Apple is working on a solution based on Quicktime Streaming Server X and Final Cut Server to compete effectively.

MediaSilo is also a company to watch as it integrates with Final Cut Server.

Thoughts?
 
iTunes can play video that :apple:TV can't handle. For example, if you shoot some 1080i/p content with an HD camcorder, you can use iMovie to edit & render it back out as a 1080i/p mp4, and that file will go right into iTunes- and play there- just fine. But :apple:TV will need you to down-convert it to a lower resolution that it can pump it from your iTunes database to your HDTV.

Do you know if :apple:TV can down convert on the fly 1080p content?
I would like to Handbrake all my BR rips at 1080p and let :apple:TV just play at 720p. Not sure having two version one at 1080p and another at 720 is a hassle I want to pursue. :rolleyes:
 
Do you know if :apple:TV can down convert on the fly 1080p content?
I would like to Handbrake all my BR rips at 1080p and let :apple:TV just play at 720p. Not sure having two version one at 1080p and another at 720 is a hassle I want to pursue. :rolleyes:

The existing :apple:TV definitely can't. 1080 content in your iTunes list won't even show up and/or sync with the existing :apple:TV. I would bet that the new one will follow this same lead, meaning you will need to create a 720 or lower copy for :apple:TV if you want to retain both the full quality version and a version suitable for :apple:TV.

However, until someone actually has one of the new ones to see if it has any undocumented 1080p goodies, this is just best guess. I would be enormously happy to replace my 2 :apple:TVs with new ones if it turns out that they can handle this ONE thing, and Apple just chose not to announce that benefit for some reason.
 
The existing :apple:TV definitely can't. 1080 content in your iTunes list won't even show up and/or sync with the existing :apple:TV. I would bet that the new one will follow this same lead, meaning you will need to create a 720 or lower copy for :apple:TV if you want to retain both the full quality version and a version suitable for :apple:TV.

However, until someone actually has one of the new ones to see if it has any undocumented 1080p goodies, this is just best guess. I would be enormously happy to replace my 2 :apple:TVs with new ones if it turns out that they can handle this ONE thing, and Apple just chose not to announce that benefit for some reason.

Thanks,
Yeah, I would like to transcode just once. Do it two times is a huge pain. So I would live with 720p for now and down the road when they finally support 1080p, my content is already set.
Oh boy, let's hope they will give us this option. ;)
 
Thanks,
Yeah, I would like to transcode just once. Do it two times is a huge pain. So I would live with 720p for now and down the road when they finally support 1080p, my content is already set.
Oh boy, let's hope they will give us this option. ;)

I certainly do have that hope. Everything else from Apple is already set up for it:
  • iMovie can import, edit, and render 1080p/i video- no problem
  • iTunes can import, catalog, tag, and play 1080p/i video- no problem
  • Quicktime- the underpinnings for all of it- can easily handle 1080p/i video- no problem
  • if we've bought our HDTV in the last couple of years, odds are high that it is at least 1080i and probably 1080p capable

All the links in the chain are ready. Just one more to go. Hopefully, it arrives in the next few days with this undocumented benefit for those of us that care about it. My money is ready.
 
That new icon obviously resembles the design of the new iTunes icon. I wonder if Apple is going to continue down this path with their icons....
 
That new icon obviously resembles the design of the new iTunes icon. I wonder if Apple is going to continue down this path with their icons....

Oh please for the love of… There is something so Windows Vista about all that glowing blue. Don't do it Apple!!
 
The new icon looks exciting and slick and strongly resembles the iTunes icon. If Apple does the same thing with iMovie, iPhoto, iWeb, etc, iTunes might stop sticking out like a sore thumb and look good on the dock.

I believe Apple will unify the icon looks with new updates. iLife first, then iWork, and so on. My doc will end up with a bunch of square icons from Adobe and round glowing icons from Apple.
 
They can do all the chit-chat they won't, I didn't buy an Apple TV because, although Apple's CEO promised in public during the Keynote for going international "soon", it's been 4 years since that statement. How many countries is "international" ? 4 ? Like USA, UK, France and Germany ? Great, I live right in between, but nope. No support for me.
Stupid Majors...

I have no support where I live since it's launch. Steve Jobs said again at the last Keynote that it will come to other countries later this year. It better be true this time ! No wonder nobody buys it, I'm far from being the only case ! And with this new model, although it certainly looks much better, it's even more worthless to buy one if their's no service behind, because their's no storage.

Fortunately, I'm patient. I've been waiting 4 years, I can wait another 2... but still...

Don't think of me as mean, but... I think about it as a little revenge that, while in most of the world there's no Apple TV service but multiple carrier choice for the iPhone, I think it's kinda' righteous that US customers get Apple TV support, but only one carrier for iPhone, so that it's not only the "others" to have frustration over missing product potential, even thought both are not related in anyway. Just writing what I think here, nothing mean to it.

Now, as one of the biggest international companies in the World, Apple should launch product that could be used worldwide pretty fast. Saying is a "hobby" is no excuse: The sell the product, it's got marketshare, a very important infrastructure behind. People would not accept this if Apple called the iPhone a "hobby" and it didn't sell in their country !
 
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