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jwolf6589

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I don't know about you but I am awaiting for the new model to be released. I want more RAM, processing power, more space, and the like. The remote works great so no need to change that. My ATV HD seems to sometimes crash forcing me to reboot and I don't know why but I assume it's the ancient A8 chip which I once ran on my old iPad Mini 4 till I upgraded to the much faster Mini 5.

Anyone else have crashing problems on the HD model?
 
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Audit13

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My brother has been using the 4th Gen ATV HD model for a months with no issues so far.

Personally, I find the current ATV 4k more than capable for my needs as I don't game and use it purely for streaming.

I could see gamers wanting more ram, a more powerful cpu, and more storage but I doubt Apple would sell it for the same price as the current model which would make it less attractive. If it gets too closes to the cost of an Xbox, gamers would consider the Xbox over an upgraded ATV.
 

waw74

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I've got an aTV4k and an aTV-HD, no crashing on either one.
both work great. ( I don't game, )

the one thing I would change is the one thing you say "works great so no need to change that"
The remote
The whole bluetooth, HDMI-CEC control of other devices, auto-learning IR commands based on TV model, or using the IR receiver in the aTV to learn commands and send them to the remote is brilliant.
But the layout is very poor. It sacrifices a lot of usability, to look pretty
a couple times a week I hit the wrong button, because I've got the thing upside down, Or It will take me a couple seconds of repeatedly shooting past the item I want to actually land and stop on it (not all the time, it just sometimes seems to get super sensitive)


It truly seems like they only tested it while sitting at their desks and placing the remote nicely beside and parallel to their keyboard in a little marked out rectangle designated for it, and never in real world setting, sprawled out on the couch,
This was really obvious in the very first release software, since if you touched the trackpad at all, it would scroll. Accidentally brush the remote with your hand, BAM you're 5 minutes ahead in your video. They've fixed that fairly quickly with only being able to scroll while it's paused, bit you would think they would have caught that in testing before it was released.


it's not a big change that it needs, either some sort of "guidance" on the back like pretty much all remotes have. Either a rough stripe, a small indentation, or small raised ridge. Something you can feel in the dark. Even giving the apple logo some texture, and moving it up under the touch portion would probably work.
another fairly easy option would be to make it slightly unbalanced, so it's heavier in the back, meaning it would just not "sit right" in your hand if you have it backwards.
 
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jwolf6589

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I've got an aTV4k and an aTV-HD, no crashing on either one.
both work great. ( I don't game, )

the one thing I would change is the one thing you say "works great so no need to change that"
The remote
The whole bluetooth, HDMI-CEC control of other devices, auto-learning IR commands based on TV model, or using the IR receiver in the aTV to learn commands and send them to the remote is brilliant.
But the layout is very poor. It sacrifices a lot of usability, to look pretty
a couple times a week I hit the wrong button, because I've got the thing upside down, Or It will take me a couple seconds of repeatedly shooting past the item I want to actually land and stop on it (not all the time, it just sometimes seems to get super sensitive)


It truly seems like they only tested it while sitting at their desks and placing the remote nicely beside and parallel to their keyboard in a little marked out rectangle designated for it, and never in real world setting, sprawled out on the couch,
This was really obvious in the very first release software, since if you touched the trackpad at all, it would scroll. Accidentally brush the remote with your hand, BAM you're 5 minutes ahead in your video. They've fixed that fairly quickly with only being able to scroll while it's paused, bit you would think they would have caught that in testing before it was released.


it's not a big change that it needs, either some sort of "guidance" on the back like pretty much all remotes have. Either a rough stripe, a small indentation, or small raised ridge. Something you can feel in the dark. Even giving the apple logo some texture, and moving it up under the touch portion would probably work.
another fairly easy option would be to make it slightly unbalanced, so it's heavier in the back, meaning it would just not "sit right" in your hand if you have it backwards.

I don't know why my ATV HD crashes every once in a while.
 

SwingOnThis

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The issue i have with the remote is the jump 10 seconds being on the edges of the touch pad. It's very testy. Sometimes it works flawlessly, sometimes it's as if i can't find the exact right spot on the touch pad. Adding devoted buttons for the 10 second jump would not be the worst thing in the world. Or a single button to jump back 15 seconds. As the jump back button is the one used 98% of the time.
 
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BootLoxes

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Then I don't know what the problem is. My remote seems to work fine.

Most of the complaints I have seen were about the size and it being slippery. Others said it was too symmetrical so you have to look at the remote.

I have also seen complaints about the sensitivity of the touch area.

I quickly stopped using the remote in favor of my iphone. Much easier
 
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SwingOnThis

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It is definitely slippery. And too tiny. A remote won't be carried around in one's pocket like a phone so there is no pressing need to make it small and thin. Something a tad more ergonomic would be nice.

That said, i like the touchpad in general. It's quite nifty.
 
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pcorrado

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May 21, 2008
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Big or small . . . I am going to lose the remote.

My biggest complaint with the Siri Remote is how much the touch screen scrubbing is relied on by certain apps (i am looking at you Hulu) making using a third-party smart remote very difficult for fast forward / rewind. Phone app works great for that at least.

That said, I would like to see a couple improvement to the remote (1) wireless charging (2) a bit of weight (3) more body texture / shape.

Overall, I am patiently waiting a new Apple TV, no matter what, I have one that is becoming problematic with HDMI and will need to be replaced soon.
 

SketchyClown

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I just purchased my ATV4K. It has a fast enough processor and all the bells and whistles I need for streaming content. The current specs match the specs of my 2016 era Denon receiver and Sony 4K TV such as HDMI 2.0a, HDR10 etc. So the possible upgrades like HDMI 2.1 & HDR10+ or higher specs won't really translate into any benefit to me because the other hardware in the chain won't support it. I don't use it for gaming at all so a small processing bump isn't a stunner.

But like the rest, I am very curious what the final product will be after this many years.

I have an ATV HD in another room on an older 1080p TV, and I am having zero issues with crashing or anything for that matter, sorry OP.

As for the remote debate, I fall into the camp of "it's OK", but the 4K has mated so well with my Sony TV that I can leave the ATV remote on the table and completely control it with the Sony's remote control. A definite added bonus.
 
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ckuttner

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Just weighing in on the Remote....I’m fine with its functions, also like Remote on my iPhone.
My biggest issues: , easy to lose, slippery surface, hard to orient in the dark.
I spent less than $20 on Amazon for a jelly-like cover that has a loop on it, which I hang on a lever that’s on my recliner. That solves all those problems.
 
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