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I'm sure there are a lot of finer points to work out before you've got something really viable for the public, but this is the type of stuff that I want to hear about when anyone is talking about AI.

NOT "the AI is actually my girlfriend", "the computer is telling me it's alive so it must be sentient", college students using it to skip actually engaging with a topic, or someone claiming that the generative image output means we have no more need for actual artists.
 
No it won't, no watches, no matter how good they say they are, can do that, none of them are accurate for heatbeat, steps, not one.
So what these watches will do, make someone panic that they have a problem when they don't
 
There's 194 countries in the world where the blood oxygen sensor works just fine. If politicians can agree to make America the 11th province, issue solved.
Even though I live in Mexico, I scuttled my purchase of a 10 because my Apple accounts are in the USA. I have been unable to get a definitive answer about how that plays out. My AirPods—bought from Amazon in ‘Murica—won’t do the hearing test or hearing aid feature because I’m over here. My wife’s devices phoned-home last time that she was in the USA, and hers do. Crazy, multi jurisdictional world. I have a tiny bit of sympathy for multinational companies like Apple who have to comply here, there, and everywhere.

But I’m sure that all my health data works its way back to Big Pharma, probably through Palantir, ignoring my lack of consent.
 
No it won't, no watches, no matter how good they say they are, can do that, none of them are accurate for heatbeat, steps, not one.
So what these watches will do, make someone panic that they have a problem when they don't
My Watches correlate with my BP cuff (pulse) and fingertip O2 sensor. Milage yes, steps and rings, not so much. As is said in another thread, the rings are motivational, not accurate.

The Watch is well-aligned to alert for afib, although it errs on the side of caution. It can’t distinguish between afib and PVCs and PACs and reports those arrhythmias as afib or “Inconclusive”.

The Watch is so well-aligned to afib that it’s part of a huge, ongoing study to see if someone who has been diagnosed with afib can take an anticoagulant pill upon notification (called “pill in pocket”) rather than 24/7/365.
 
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57 health conditions… I may have to start making more use of my Apple Watch.
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Even though I live in Mexico, I scuttled my purchase of a 10 because my Apple accounts are in the USA. I have been unable to get a definitive answer about how that plays out. My AirPods—bought from Amazon in ‘Murica—won’t do the hearing test or hearing aid feature because I’m over here. My wife’s devices phoned-home last time that she was in the USA, and hers do. Crazy, multi jurisdictional world. I have a tiny bit of sympathy for multinational companies like Apple who have to comply here, there, and everywhere.

But I’m sure that all my health data works its way back to Big Pharma, probably through Palantir, ignoring my lack of consent.
Country of origin is what matters and that is encoded into the watch probably at a hardware or firmware level via some kind of flag. I have a ceramic watch from another country and it knows that it was sold there even after a reset.

I believe you can buy a watch in Canada, come back to the US, and activate it and it will have the functionality. Similarly, if you buy a US watch and activate it elsewhere, you're SOL.

One thing to keep in mind is that if you have an existing Apple watch in the US and send it in for repair in the US, you will lose the pulse oximetry functionality, because Apple doesn't actually repair them they replace them. I'm actually surprised Apple hasn't been sued over this fun fact.

Apple Health data is secure unless you choose to share it and enable that functionality. If you are paranoid about leaks, use Lockdown Mode. It is fine for everyday use, imo, with little drawback except the link previews in messages don't work due to security exploit potential.
 
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Country of origin is what matters and that is encoded into the watch probably at a hardware or firmware level via some kind of flag. I have a ceramic watch from another country and it knows that it was sold there even after a reset.

I believe you can buy a watch in Canada, come back to the US, and activate it and it will have the functionality. Similarly, if you buy a US watch and activate it elsewhere, you're SOL.

One thing to keep in mind is that if you have an existing Apple watch in the US and send it in for repair in the US, you will lose the pulse oximetry functionality, because Apple doesn't actually repair them they replace them. I'm actually surprised Apple hasn't been sued over this fun fact.

Apple Health data is secure unless you choose to share it and enable that functionality. If you are paranoid about leaks, use Lockdown Mode. It is fine for everyday use, imo, with little drawback except the link previews in messages don't work due to security exploit potential.
Thank you.

I would like to believe that but our experience with AirPods suggests something different. I don’t want to buy a Watch 11 this autumn only to have the O2 sensor deactivate.

My health data goes to iCloud. It’s secure unless it’s not.
 
My Watches correlate with my BP cuff (pulse) and fingertip O2 sensor. Milage yes, steps and rings, not so much. As is said in another thread, the rings are motivational, not accurate.

The Watch is well-aligned to alert for afib, although it errs on the side of caution. It can’t distinguish between afib and PVCs and PACs and reports those arrhythmias as afib or “Inconclusive”.

The Watch is so well-aligned to afib that it’s part of a huge, ongoing study to see if someone who has been diagnosed with afib can take an anticoagulant pill upon notification (called “pill in pocket”) rather than 24/7/365.
i would not rely on it
 
...to the richest business on the planet.

There's more passive income the longer the user remains around. Pharmaceutical racket knows this routine well.

You really believe Apple wants to save lives so they can continue making money off those same people?

The mission at Apple is humanity first, commerce further down the pecking order.

Don't treat Apple like every other corporation on earth. Apple is different, Apple is rare, Apple is special. This is why they commandeer so much love, adulation and respect among loyal customers.
 
You really believe Apple wants to save lives so they can continue making money off those same people?

The mission at Apple is humanity first, commerce further down the pecking order.

Don't treat Apple like every other corporation on earth. Apple is different, Apple is rare, Apple is special. This is why they commandeer so much love, adulation and respect among loyal customers.
This is satire, right?
 
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