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I don't understand how people can get so thick headed. Just because they don't use it (because they can't!! they are on Verizon "The Most Reliable Network") they make these dumb claims that it is a luxury and not a need blah blah. Being able to talk and surf at the same time is a HUGE productivity tool for a LOT of serious business users. I conduct and attend conference calls on my iPhone using an application that lets people share their desktop or specific applications and make presentations. You can actually be on the conference call talking and listening while somebody is walking you through a PowerPoint document. Lets see Verizon do that. Not being able to talk and have data connectivity at the same time is not even a choice for me and millions of other serious users. It is absolutely required. This is the iPhone people!!! hello??? Not some dumb a$$ so called smartphone. You can do stuff on this device and trust me you will that you never thought possible or never did before. So just because you never did it before don't a$$-ume you won't or others don't.
The other examples people have cited here are very valid also for regular consumers. Being able to lookup something on the internet or be able to make a table reservation at a restaurant or lookup movie timings etc. I can't understand how people think this is a luxury. Wake up people!! This is 2011 and this is the iPhone not your crackberry. I am on the phone many times with my friends (sometimes on 3 way calls) going over movie timings or restaurant lists jointly deciding where to go. On Verizon you get a call, you hang up, lookup info, call back, don't have an agreement, hang up, lookup info, call back with new suggestion, that didn't fly either, hang up, lookup info, call back....... ALL on "America's Most Reliable Network" LOL!!
Not sure why you care so much if someone decides to get a Verizon iPhone.
*verizon fan (or displeased AT&T user) makes joke about how this wouldn't work*
*Flustered AT&T fan (or displeased verizon user) gets offended and says AT&T is perfect where they are.*
*Verizon fan eggs on the flustered AT&T fan by saying AT&T sucks where they live*
*AT&T fan tells a verizon fan he is making generalizations and says the verizon fan only makes these statements because he lives in bumf*** nowhere*
*verizon fan gets offended and retorts by explaining how AT&T fan is being hypocritical about generalizing*
*AT&T fan apologizes for being a hypocritical fan*
*Verizon fan apologizes for making a stab at AT&T's commercial*
*high fives all around for maturity in the end*
If only, MacRumors, if only.
*Flustered AT&T fan (or displeased verizon user) gets offended and says AT&T is perfect where they are.*
*Verizon fan eggs on the flustered AT&T fan by saying AT&T sucks where they live*
*AT&T fan tells a verizon fan he is making generalizations and says the verizon fan only makes these statements because he lives in bumf*** nowhere*
*verizon fan gets offended and retorts by explaining how AT&T fan is being hypocritical about generalizing*
*AT&T fan apologizes for being a hypocritical fan*
*Verizon fan apologizes for making a stab at AT&T's commercial*
*high fives all around for maturity in the end*
If only, MacRumors, if only.
I don't understand how people can get so thick headed. Just because they don't use it (because they can't!! they are on Verizon "The Most Reliable Network") they make these dumb claims that it is a luxury and not a need blah blah. Being able to talk and surf at the same time is a HUGE productivity tool for a LOT of serious business users. I conduct and attend conference calls on my iPhone using an application that lets people share their desktop or specific applications and make presentations. You can actually be on the conference call talking and listening while somebody is walking you through a PowerPoint document. Lets see Verizon do that. Not being able to talk and have data connectivity at the same time is not even a choice for me and millions of other serious users. It is absolutely required. This is the iPhone people!!! hello??? Not some dumb a$$ so called smartphone. You can do stuff on this device and trust me you will that you never thought possible or never did before. So just because you never did it before don't a$$-ume you won't or others don't.
The other examples people have cited here are very valid also for regular consumers. Being able to lookup something on the internet or be able to make a table reservation at a restaurant or lookup movie timings etc. I can't understand how people think this is a luxury. Wake up people!! This is 2011 and this is the iPhone not your crackberry. I am on the phone many times with my friends (sometimes on 3 way calls) going over movie timings or restaurant lists jointly deciding where to go. On Verizon you get a call, you hang up, lookup info, call back, don't have an agreement, hang up, lookup info, call back with new suggestion, that didn't fly either, hang up, lookup info, call back....... ALL on "America's Most Reliable Network" LOL!!
Quick question... Are you an employee of AT&T? I ask because I have noticed many of your posts that are focused on trying to keep people from going to Verizon. I have never seen someone who was not an employee work so hard on behalf of a corporation.
As for me I am on Verizon right now and plan to stay there because AT&T is nonexistent in my area. You pick the carrier that works well where you live. That is the reason above all others.
I could care less whether you get an at&t iPhone or a Verizon iPhone or a Sprint phone or T-Mobil phone. My post if you read it right was aimed at people who keep insisting that being able to talk and surf at the same time is not such a big deal and is a luxury and try to downplay it. That is plain dumb and ignorant is my point. That said if you feel Verizon works for you great! The truth is both carriers are great in some areas and suck in some areas in terms of coverage. If Verizon was so great and at&t sucked so much, then at&t wouldn't have nearly 93 Million wireless subscribers. You read it right. The figure was 92.8 million as of Oct 2010. And mind you only a very small percentage of these customers are iPhone customers. I want to point that out before somebody makes another dumb statement like "Oh! now all those iPhone customers will switch to Verizon". I can guarantee you no iPhone customer will switch to Verizon iPhone unless they are in an area where they have very spotty coverage. I can also guarantee that majority of iPhone customers know what it is like to be able to talk and browse at the same time. And that is a deal breaker for these customers. And customers who are getting an iPhone for the first time have a $49 iPhone 3GS deal that at&t is offering. Not everybody is willing to spend $200 on a phone but there are tons of people out there who want an iPhone without spending an arm and a leg to get it. So whatever works for people. There is no right or wrong answer. But being able to talk and surf at the same time is not something insignificant that can be downplayed. That's the point.
No I am not an employee of at&t although wouldn't mind a job there
They seem to be doing alright in a down economy. The only point I am trying to make is don't downplay the usefulness of being able to talk and browse at the same time. People make these dumb ignorant comments just because they don't use it or they have never used it. That is the only point I am trying to make. Whatever works for people. If Verizon works for you great! If at&t works for you great! Being a hard core Apple fan and an iPhone fan I think having an iPhone on Verizon is like driving a Ferrari on a local village road. Sorry that is just my opinion whether you agree or not. The whole point of the iPhone is you can do a LOT more than any phone ever did before the iPhone or after. But if all you want to do is talk "There is a phone for that!" 
I agree. Also it's not always as simple as talking while looking at pages in safari
I talk while I may need to SSH into a server, may need to remote connect to my parents computer to help them out. May need to FTP some files. May receive an important email while I'm on the phone. May be giving someone directions, etc..
The whole point is multitasking. I can name countless scenarios.
There are some places of work that actually forbid you to use a wifi signal because they do not provide it. Such as the company I work for as well. For me AT&T is perfect with a Jailbroken iPhone. MyWi is a lifesaver. Our company computer systems do not allow us to do certain things (e.g. twitter, facebook, etc.) but on a Tethered iPhone to my personal laptop, it works great.
Why tether it to my laptop when I can jump on Twitter or FB on my iPhone? It's easier to type with, I can click on some flash videos, etc.
To each their own I say. If Verizon works for you, great. If AT&T works for you, awesome. For my work location, AT&T works great now. Month 1 of having the iPhone 4, it was crap. Then I complained to AT&T, they took notice and fixed their antenna. *shrug*
I can see it now:
Complaints on Verizon iphone:
1) Oh man, I got a drop call. I guess it's the phone and not the network.
2) You are in the office, you and your co-workers are listening to Pandora, you get a call, it goes off, but you answer it on your headset, and still can't stream the audio!! So your co-workers are mad.
3) You are trying to upload a picture or video from your phone, and get a call, it interrupts it, and causes it to never go out.
4) You can't use FACETIME because no data/voice at the same time. (Might be wrong on this).
5) Why do I not have coverage in rural areas......because Verizon isn't as big as you might think. AT&T has more coverage than Verizon with EDGE and it covers all the rural areas while Verizon has no coverage at all in many areas. Especially in Texas.
6) Boss sends you a email for you to review while you are on the phone, you can't receive it so you have to tell him that you will call him back. Boss gets irritated. Sucks to be you!
7) Traveling using the GPS, and you get a call on your handsfree in the car. Your GPS stops working!!! Oh wait, I am 10 miles past my exit by the time you get it working again....Sucks to be you!
There are many more, but it will take me some time to think of them.
For now, I am happy with AT&T.
Complaints on Verizon iphone:
1) Oh man, I got a drop call. I guess it's the phone and not the network.
2) You are in the office, you and your co-workers are listening to Pandora, you get a call, it goes off, but you answer it on your headset, and still can't stream the audio!! So your co-workers are mad.
3) You are trying to upload a picture or video from your phone, and get a call, it interrupts it, and causes it to never go out.
4) You can't use FACETIME because no data/voice at the same time. (Might be wrong on this).
5) Why do I not have coverage in rural areas......because Verizon isn't as big as you might think. AT&T has more coverage than Verizon with EDGE and it covers all the rural areas while Verizon has no coverage at all in many areas. Especially in Texas.
6) Boss sends you a email for you to review while you are on the phone, you can't receive it so you have to tell him that you will call him back. Boss gets irritated. Sucks to be you!
7) Traveling using the GPS, and you get a call on your handsfree in the car. Your GPS stops working!!! Oh wait, I am 10 miles past my exit by the time you get it working again....Sucks to be you!
There are many more, but it will take me some time to think of them.
For now, I am happy with AT&T.
Some of those points are completely ignorant. Why would your boss demand you review an email while you are on the phone? Just tell him you have verizon. If the boss is getting irritated about that, he must be a MacRumors forum-goer because it's completely uncalled for.
Back at home, which is very rural, I have an AT&T tower and a Verizon tower right next to my house. The AT&T tower still isn't 3G and the edge network goes on and off periodically. Everyone else in my town has verizon and doesn't really have any issues. I even used to have verizon before the iphone. I'm not saying it's like this everywhere, but edge is very finicky in my home town.
Facetime would work. period.
If you have wifi in the office, none of the office related issues are present anymore.
From my experience, using the iPhone as your gps is the fastest way to get you lost
Your good points: 3 and 7
I admit, i have used voice+data from time to time before but it's never been a dire situation where i've needed it. AT&T should be using speed as their marketing ploy, not voice+data. AT&T is pretty fast.
You know what else are luxuries? Phones that can connect to the internet. Phones that can double as MP3 players. Phones that you can buy movies on. You see where I'm going with this? There's no real need for any of these things, but to have a phone who main features rely on connectivity which you are limited on due to your carrier just seems ridiculous to me. I mean, I wish I had enough time in my day to take twice as long doing things on my phone than necessary, but a lot of us apparently don't have the same luxuries as you. You argument is like saying power windows are a luxury because you've never been in a situation where you didn't want to manually roll up the window. Guess what? You're wrong.
The better way to do the commercial is for him to actually make the reservation while on the phone call and then be able to say "we have reservations at xyz. meet you there in an hour" while still on the call.
You're right, this commerical could have been executed a lot better, something like you're saying or being on the phone with his boss while sending out some email and then confirming their new website is live....something like that.
I guess you don't work in the corporate world. Sadly this happens often. Please review the email quickly while so we can discuss this when I am talking to you. Headset on, can't do it when I am talking. So Verizon sucks in this instance. Many businesses won't let you use the WIFI for your phone. Security issues.
Some of those points are completely ignorant. Why would your boss demand you review an email while you are on the phone? Just tell him you have verizon. If the boss is getting irritated about that, he must be a MacRumors forum-goer because it's completely uncalled for.
Back at home, which is very rural, I have an AT&T tower and a Verizon tower right next to my house. The AT&T tower still isn't 3G and the edge network goes on and off periodically. Everyone else in my town has verizon and doesn't really have any issues. I even used to have verizon before the iphone. I'm not saying it's like this everywhere, but edge is very finicky in my home town.
Facetime would work. period.
If you have wifi in the office, none of the office related issues are present anymore.
From my experience, using the iPhone as your gps is the fastest way to get you lost
Your good points: 3 and 7
I admit, i have used voice+data from time to time before but it's never been a dire situation where i've needed it. AT&T should be using speed as their marketing ploy, not voice+data. AT&T is pretty fast.
No. I'm a college student. But now I Highly doubt you have no computer at work. And if the email has already been loaded before the call comes in, you could access it during the call.
There's more than one way to skin a cat. Im sure you wouldn't get fired for having a verizon iPhone.
Who says I am at work? On call, on the road, somewhere not near my computer at the office, etc.
Again, I am just showing an instance in my experience in the business world.
I also tether my phone for use with my laptop. Since I am in IT, I have to remote in to fix issues on our systems and I am usually on the phone with the person I am helping. So I can't do that either with Verizon.
Well i guess I was putting "office work" into my perspective of animation. I'm barely ever away from my computer when i'm working. I'd rather have a verizon iphone and not need to use the feature for work than have an AT&T phone and HAVE to use it for work.
If you catch my drift. hahaha. For all intents and purposes, i use my phone mostly for social purposes. But who can blame me? I'm still in college. If i'm doing work, I'm working Maya on my computer pretty heavily. So, sorry for assuming things about how the corporate world works. I really have no idea.
That is not accurate. Google Navigation, for example, on Android pre-caches the maps you need for your route. I routinely took calls while already in a navigation session. No worries, there. Some other apps store the maps locally on your phone. Again, no problem. The GPS is a separate radio. The issue is data.
Well i guess I was putting "office work" into my perspective of animation. I'm barely ever away from my computer when i'm working. I'd rather have a verizon iphone and not need to use the feature for work than have an AT&T phone and HAVE to use it for work.
For all intents and purposes, i use my phone mostly for social purposes. But who can blame me? I'm still in college. If i'm doing work, I'm working Maya on my computer pretty heavily. So, sorry for assuming things about how the corporate world works. I really have no idea.
Wish I could do that. But my work requires me to be on call 24.7 and I hate it.
The GPS on the iphone will not work without data as it uses constant data to download the maps.
Yeah, it will. You even quoted the part that explains why. Lemme try this again:
GOOGLE NAVIGATION PRE-CACHES THE NECESSARY MAPS FOR YOUR ROUTE. It downloads them, at the start of the navigation session, to be stored locally on your phone. You don't need a data connection unless you go on for a few hundred miles without data connectivity.
Now please acknowledge that I had this right, and you were wrong. You even QUOTED the explanation, dude. I've done this many times. I ain't wrong.
GOOGLE NAVIGATION PRE-CACHES THE NECESSARY MAPS FOR YOUR ROUTE. It downloads them, at the start of the navigation session, to be stored locally on your phone. You don't need a data connection unless you go on for a few hundred miles without data connectivity.
Now please acknowledge that I had this right, and you were wrong. You even QUOTED the explanation, dude. I've done this many times. I ain't wrong.
Not on my iphone. I have used it before on trips and it stops working in bad signal areas where I don't have a signal.
You aren't right.