New Audi RS6 to produce 571HP

[iGav]

My point was that it EVERY type of motorsports sooner or later will be a new king because of innovation.

Well, in BMW's case, it was because they had to poach Fords talented staff to innovate. Teehee.

And it's not a good measure of total perfromance of production cars because one thing that none of the specification sheets for any production car specify is the actual skills of a particular driver.

You're rambling again. As well as going off on a tangent. A not especially relevant one either.

What made touring cars (a production class) a good measure of the performance of production cars, is that the cars were pretty much standard, road going versions. If the car had a design flaw then that would be exposed on the track, often to the detriment of their performance. The 3.0 CSL had such an aerodynamic flaw, namely creating lift on the track. Were it not for the BMW's manipulations of the evolution rules (that resulted in the Batmobile) they would've been in a right old pickle.

I know what the difference between sponsors and advertisers is.

From what you've written below, I have to say, I'm really doubting that. Or at least, you have little understanding of how either works or applies in this instance.

ANd tell me would you give abad review to one of your biggest sponsors or advertiders?

Well, I can't speak about sponsors because Autocar doesn't have them. Actually, I have to admit... I'm struggling to find a car magazine that I do read that actually has sponsors.

But of course car magazines give poor reviews to cars (whose manufacturers advertise in their magazines) if the car itself is not worthy of praise.

I honestly cannot believe that you think otherwise.

If you are a smart businessman then I don't think you would allow for that. Money talks, simple as that.

Oh my.

And again, no magazine/commercial website thses days doesn't have some kind of sponsor and/or advertisers.

Autocar do not have sponsors, regardless of what you think. They do of course have advertisers, but advertisers do not have any level of influence over editorial content, nor the opinions that are subsequently formed for the articles.

It's inane to believe otherwise.

And FYI, Ford and BMW both advertise in Autocar.

 

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Well, in BMW's case, it was because they had to poach Fords talented staff to innovate. Teehee.



You're rambling again. As well as going off on a tangent. A not especially relevant one either.

What made touring cars (a production class) a good measure of the performance of production cars, is that the cars were pretty much standard, road going versions. If the car had a design flaw then that would be exposed on the track, often to the detriment of their performance. The 3.0 CSL had such an aerodynamic flaw, namely creating lift on the track. Were it not for the BMW's manipulations of the evolution rules (that resulted in the Batmobile) they would've been in a right old pickle.



From what you've written below, I have to say, I'm really doubting that. Or at least, you have little understanding of how either works or applies in this instance.



Well, I can't speak about sponsors because Autocar doesn't have them. Actually, I have to admit... I'm struggling to find a car magazine that I do read that actually has sponsors.

But of course car magazines give poor reviews to cars (whose manufacturers advertise in their magazines) if the car itself is not worthy of praise.

I honestly cannot believe that you think otherwise.





Oh my.



Autocar do not have sponsors, regardless of what you think. They do of course have advertisers, but advertisers do not have any level of influence over editorial content, nor the opinions that are subsequently formed for the articles.

It's inane to believe otherwise.

And FYI, Ford and BMW both advertise in Autocar.

Jeeezzzz, ok, whatever you are saying still doesn't change the fact that everyone compares Audis to BMWs and not the other way around, it's because BMW/Mercedes are the benchmarks in production cars, so thats pretty much it.