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New Brave Browser Feature Bypasses 'Harmful' Google AMP Pages

Pecka said:
As far as I'm aware they have removed all Google related stuff.
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That’s nice, but there’s another problem.

Chromium is the most popular engine on the internet, which turns it into a near monoculture for web developers and gives Google too much power over the direction of web technology.

MS Edge is now powered by it as well, which makes the situation worse.
 
napzero said:
That’s nice, but there’s another problem.

Chromium is the most popular engine on the internet, which turns it into a near monoculture for web developers and gives Google too much power over the direction of web technology.

MS Edge is now powered by it as well, which makes the situation worse.
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Yes, it's not an optimal situation.

I hope Apple fixes the annoying bugs in Safari, then I might switch back.
 
to make it look like its coming from the original publisher's website, when in fact it's being served from Google's servers
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That doesn't bother me. The potential for Google to serve pages with deletions, additions, or editorializing bothers me. To, you know, combat "disinformation".
 
EdT said:
EVERY browser search software/site has gotten in trouble for privacy violations. Nobody can build and run a search company for free and everyone needs to make money to stay in business, and customers don’t seem to like a subscription service that you have to pay to use but which could -theoretically- do a better job searching for what you want and also do a better job of protecting privacy.
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Nope. DDG doesn’t compromise privacy. They make their money on search relevant ads, without use of tracking for the query itself or the out link from an ad.
 
I hate amp. You can’t tap the top of your screen to jump to the top of the page, can’t see the site’s comment section, can’t use Safari’s Reader View. I end up having to tap multiple times to load the actual page, which defeats the so-called purpose of it making things faster. It’s infuriating. I hope Apple adds an amp blocker to Safari.
 
TomaxXamot said:
I hate amp. You can’t tap the top of your screen to jump to the top of the page, can’t see the site’s comment section, can’t use Safari’s Reader View. I end up having to tap multiple times to load the actual page, which defeats the so-called purpose of it making things faster. It’s infuriating. I hope Apple adds an amp blocker to Safari.
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Use a good adblocker like 1Blocker and you shouldn't have those kinds of problems.
 
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Didn't know about this Google "feature" before today and can't stand tricks like that.

Love that Brave is there when I need it (Safari is my main browser), along with Brave search. I don't trust DuckDuckGo's at all now, since they started censoring their search engine results.
 
Ronald Reagan said:
Another good reason to use the Brave search engine is to bypass their extremely one-sided search results. Forget DDG. They’ve been in the news lately for the same reason.
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One-sided? DDG puts Fox News at the top of any search for “news” and includes them (and a couple other similar “news” agencies) and their biased headlines in DDG’s news aggregator, along side CNN, CBS, ABC, Reuters, etc.

They also have Laissez-faire capitalism search engine spam results, like every other search engine.
 
At this point I'd like to put a shout out to another new privacy focussed browser, Orion, https://browser.kagi.com, I'm using it on Mac but apparently it's also on iOS.

It's based on webkit with a focus on privacy, I've been using for just a few days and I think it's amazing. It allows you to run proper extensions such as ublock origin from either Firefox or Chrome extension stores. Not sure it natively blocks amp, but you could just use an extension!

It's currently in closed beta, but I signed up last week and got an invite quite quickly. It's certainly worth a look and I think it may become my browser of choice. I have no connection to the project, but I am, so far, extremely happy with what I've found.
 
the8thark said:
Browser based on Chromium defeats google.
Oh the irony.
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It certainly is ironic.

I really would like to use a browser without Chromium. Used Firefox a while. Decent browser but I don't agree with Mozillas politics.

Safari was my favourite but version 15 have been crappy in my opinion.
 
jclardy said:
Chromium is the rendering engine, it has no connections to google services. It is the same as using webkit as a base, webkit doesn't phone home to Apple.
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Just as a correction WebKit is the rendering engine, Chromium is the open source platform shared and in use here. Apple and Google engineers worked together starting from Netscape’s release of code to create the basis for WebKit.
 
DeepIn2U said:
Just as a correction WebKit is the rendering engine, Chromium is the open source platform shared and in use here. Apple and Google engineers worked together starting from Netscape’s release of code to create the basis for WebKit.
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Just as a correction, WebKit is a fork of KHTML which is the rendering engine created by the KDE team. Netscape's code became what is known as Gecko, the rendering engine that powers Firefox. Chromium is also not powered by WebKit, it is powered by Blink which is a fork of WebKit. Apple and Google have never worked together on WebKit.
 
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Kyanar said:
Just as a correction, WebKit is a fork of KHTML which is the rendering engine created by the KDE team. Netscape's code became what is known as Gecko, the rendering engine that powers Firefox. Chromium is also not powered by WebKit, it is powered by Blink which is a fork of WebKit. Apple and Google have never worked together on WebKit.
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Thank you very much for the correction.

What is chromium ever created using WebKit code for its fork?
 
DeepIn2U said:
Thank you very much for the correction.

What is chromium ever created using WebKit code for its fork?
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Chromium did once use a soft fork of WebKit. At some point Google decided they did not want to contribute code upstream and hard forked to create Blink.

To their credit, in the early days Apple did contribute code back to KHTML as well, but the KHTML team were too small and eventually decided it was just too hard. Since I believe last year, KDE has officially deprecated KHTML and now uses WebKit.
 
Lasermoon said:
Not for macOS

Compatibility
iPhoneRequires iOS 15.0 or later.
iPadRequires iPadOS 15.0 or later.
iPod touchRequires iOS 15.0 or later.
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I was under the impression that Google would only serve an AMP page if you're on a phone. Do you need to "un-AMP" when on MacOS?
 
My one Mac Pro is stuck in El Capitan. Firefox is ESR. Just discovered Brave works in El Capitan. Wow!
 
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