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New Car Buyers Increasingly Interested in Apple CarPlay
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Apple has done very little to update Carplay over the last year or so. The only recent update on IOS11 was the Maps update for speed limits/lane changes. As others have mentioned, Apple Maps is very lame compared to Google Maps and Waze. For now, it is ok for music control and some third party audio apps. However, until they open it up to 3rd party developers (outside of the Pandora, Iheart, TuneIn) the Carplay ecosystem is very limited and will stay limited until Apple lets development happen there.
I understand Apple is limiting it because of safety, however, take a look at what Tesla/BMW/Volvo has done with their infotainment systems. I still don't understand why some basics like Weather app cant be shown on Carplay.
I understand Apple is limiting it because of safety, however, take a look at what Tesla/BMW/Volvo has done with their infotainment systems. I still don't understand why some basics like Weather app cant be shown on Carplay.
car play is cool, same with android auto. Personally I would rather have android auto, but anything is better than car manufactures entertainment systems. My BMW had an awful one, almost as bad as Toyotas. Honda and Mazda also get zero for their effort!
As someone who has not upgraded my car since the technology has come out, it has been nice to see more and more rental cars support CarPlay. It is great to at least have some map and directions you can pull up on the screen when you are driving in a new city.
With that said, while CarPlay has gotten better over the last couple years, the contraints of the screens it is on still make it worse than pretty much any GPS app you are going to use on your actual phone (not to mention the lack of Google Maps/Waze is a big bummer for iPhone).
With that said, while CarPlay has gotten better over the last couple years, the contraints of the screens it is on still make it worse than pretty much any GPS app you are going to use on your actual phone (not to mention the lack of Google Maps/Waze is a big bummer for iPhone).
2016 Ford F150 owner. I swapped out the USB hub in my truck to get CarPlay. I really don't like it all that much after being so excited to get it.
The good: It's very snappy & fast in my truck, the touch screen responds faster than the native infotainment system. I love how fast Siri responds. The default bluetooth connection without CarPlay it takes a long press to use Siri with my steering wheel button, and tap uses the horrible Sync voice nav input. That's about it for the good.
The bad (and hatred): Apple Maps in the navigation system is just pure and complete trash/garbage. It's pretty sad when it makes the stock Ford Navigation system look like Google Maps. I much prefer the map view of the Ford Nav. I just like to have the Nav screen displayed most of the time. CarPlay also blocks some basic settings I like seeing such as outside temperature, and internal temperature of driver/passenger. I have to be in Sync display mode and only under temperature menu for those to display. Cannot stand how pressing the home button backs the CarPlay system out to home screen. Get the #$#$# over it Apple, people like to use their phones from time to time when they drive, you aren't stopping me from doing so merely annoying the #$# out of me and making me hate your product by having it back out of the music playing view just because I hit the home button.
Overall I have to say the Ford Sync 3 system with my phone connected via Bluetooth is definitely much above CarPlay. If the Steering wheel button triggered Siri instantly with a tap instead of the ford assistant I'd never use CarPlay ever.
The good: It's very snappy & fast in my truck, the touch screen responds faster than the native infotainment system. I love how fast Siri responds. The default bluetooth connection without CarPlay it takes a long press to use Siri with my steering wheel button, and tap uses the horrible Sync voice nav input. That's about it for the good.
The bad (and hatred): Apple Maps in the navigation system is just pure and complete trash/garbage. It's pretty sad when it makes the stock Ford Navigation system look like Google Maps. I much prefer the map view of the Ford Nav. I just like to have the Nav screen displayed most of the time. CarPlay also blocks some basic settings I like seeing such as outside temperature, and internal temperature of driver/passenger. I have to be in Sync display mode and only under temperature menu for those to display. Cannot stand how pressing the home button backs the CarPlay system out to home screen. Get the #$#$# over it Apple, people like to use their phones from time to time when they drive, you aren't stopping me from doing so merely annoying the #$# out of me and making me hate your product by having it back out of the music playing view just because I hit the home button.
Overall I have to say the Ford Sync 3 system with my phone connected via Bluetooth is definitely much above CarPlay. If the Steering wheel button triggered Siri instantly with a tap instead of the ford assistant I'd never use CarPlay ever.
Had it twice in rental cars and the maps feature alone is good but it was nice to have all my music too. Never going to buy a car without Apple CarPlay and that Android option as a backup.
Never going to purchase a Toyota if they don't support CarPlay. They are so "16th century".
Never going to purchase a Toyota if they don't support CarPlay. They are so "16th century".
Well, as Apple has made my lightning and bluetooth connectivity dysfunctional since iOS 11.x in my 2011 Hyundai Tucson, I have little choice other than to replace my receiver in my SUV.
I'm "doubling down" and getting the Alpine ILX-107 (CarPlay only) as it seems like the best option available.
Really wishing there was a third player here. Android's a mess. There really isn't an ecosystem as functional as Apple's.
Think back to the 1984 ad. Who's big brother now???
I'm "doubling down" and getting the Alpine ILX-107 (CarPlay only) as it seems like the best option available.
Really wishing there was a third player here. Android's a mess. There really isn't an ecosystem as functional as Apple's.
Think back to the 1984 ad. Who's big brother now???
My wife upgraded the factory radio in her Jeep Wrangler to a Pioneer with Apple CarPlay. It's nice, but I still feel like people who consider this a "must have" on a new vehicle purchase are poorly informed about all of the options out there.
Fact is, CarPlay is really just a "compromise" when you get into nicer double DIN aftermarket radio upgrades, because better models have full-blown GPS functionality built in that doesn't require your phone to be the "brains" for it. It's usually just a way to make a radio feel "full featured" while retaining a lower price-point than it would be if it had built in Pandora, GPS maps, etc.
Auto-makers have gotten away with selling overpriced stereos with underwhelming sound quality and functionality for too long. Apple CarPlay is a great way to bring the junk they usually peddle into the 21st. century -- but it's sad that people are actually "excited" for this.
About the only thing worse is that "Eyes Free" tech that a few auto makers like Chevy were selling. (Basically, it's just one lousy steering wheel button that lets you trigger Siri so you can hear it talk through the speakers and talk back to it via a microphone in the car. How much did it cost them to add THAT?)
I really prefer the maps built in to the factory Bose navigation stereo in my Nissan. Yeah - they rip you off for about $149 any time you want to buy a map update DVD for it. But it works even if I don't have my iPhone with me for some reason and it gets current traffic info via XM satellite, which it can pick up pretty much anywhere - vs. worrying about cellular service.
Fact is, CarPlay is really just a "compromise" when you get into nicer double DIN aftermarket radio upgrades, because better models have full-blown GPS functionality built in that doesn't require your phone to be the "brains" for it. It's usually just a way to make a radio feel "full featured" while retaining a lower price-point than it would be if it had built in Pandora, GPS maps, etc.
Auto-makers have gotten away with selling overpriced stereos with underwhelming sound quality and functionality for too long. Apple CarPlay is a great way to bring the junk they usually peddle into the 21st. century -- but it's sad that people are actually "excited" for this.
About the only thing worse is that "Eyes Free" tech that a few auto makers like Chevy were selling. (Basically, it's just one lousy steering wheel button that lets you trigger Siri so you can hear it talk through the speakers and talk back to it via a microphone in the car. How much did it cost them to add THAT?)
[doublepost=1508206168][/doublepost]Yep... This is partly why I made the comments I did in my previous message about CarPlay. I like the way Apple integrated everything so my Apple Watch buzzes on my wrist when Apple Maps knows it's time for me to make the next turn, etc. etc. But the maps themselves are poor quality - and a built in GPS nav system in your car radio is going to have a better GPS antenna than relying on your phone to pick up the signal from inside your vehicle wherever you might have it sitting, PLUS potentially needing the help of a cellular data signal.
I really prefer the maps built in to the factory Bose navigation stereo in my Nissan. Yeah - they rip you off for about $149 any time you want to buy a map update DVD for it. But it works even if I don't have my iPhone with me for some reason and it gets current traffic info via XM satellite, which it can pick up pretty much anywhere - vs. worrying about cellular service.
I would actually use CarPlay - if Apple opened up CarPlay to more apps. Waze is all I care for - Apple can take their Maps and throw it in the trash bin, it will never do the same thing for me as Waze does. My car even supports CarPlay and has built-in nav - but my iPhone is my Waze.
Just give up some control - that's the one thing that actually makes me wonder if I should switch to Android (which I can't stand in every other way).
Just give up some control - that's the one thing that actually makes me wonder if I should switch to Android (which I can't stand in every other way).
Millennials are 18-35, they’ve been buying cars for a while.
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I’m several years away from buying my next new car, but this is very disappointing. I’m a Toyota person almost as much as I am an Apple person. I keep hoping they’ll come to their senses so I won’t have to go aftermarket again.Lexus/Toyota has no interest in Apple Car Play which is very strange that they are creating their own system.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/new...-instead-of-apple-carplay-android-auto-hooray
Maybe they will switch over soon enough for it to be an option when I’m buying my next car. I hope so.
That’s mainly a factor of where you are. It’s really good where I am, so good that it’s now my go-to nav system, even over the expensive Navigon, which I’m still paying to be updated. I’m happily surprised, to be honest.
But I’m well aware that it’s inconsistent, which is too bad, because they continue to make the interface better too.
I actually went with Chevy after looking at the Prius. I couldn't justify the markup of a hybrid that didn't have modern tech. Even BMW has realized they can't make a good infotainment UX.[/QUOTE]
And BMW makes you get HK premium system upgrade at $995 plus an additional $300 for CarPlay. They are shameless!!!
And BMW makes you get HK premium system upgrade at $995 plus an additional $300 for CarPlay. They are shameless!!!
I am anecdotal evidence of this.
I bought a new car two months ago. I was deciding between three models and ended up purchasing the one that had CarPlay. It wasn't the only factor in my decision, but it was not insignificant.
And now that I have it, I would have trouble going back to a car that doesn't have it.
I bought a new car two months ago. I was deciding between three models and ended up purchasing the one that had CarPlay. It wasn't the only factor in my decision, but it was not insignificant.
And now that I have it, I would have trouble going back to a car that doesn't have it.
Toyota better get onboard with CarPlay unless they want to see their Toyota/Lexus sales begin to go down.
I've used CarPlay in several cars over the past year. This weekend, I picked up a Mitsubishi Outlander rental and it had CarPlay. It's become clear that the experience varies from car to car from excellent to terrible. The screen on the Mitsubishi was not very responsive and the divide between the CarPlay design and the car's own features was jarring.
I don't get why we can have glass screens in our pockets but cars that cost tens of thousands of dollars, which are fixed in place and surrounded by glass all around the cockpit have these cheap plastic displays.
I don't get why we can have glass screens in our pockets but cars that cost tens of thousands of dollars, which are fixed in place and surrounded by glass all around the cockpit have these cheap plastic displays.
There was no charge for it in the two cars we just purchased, and it works very well.
Mine is completely inconsistent. Most of the time, I'm half-way down the street before the green CarPlay button shows up on my display. Once in a blue moon I am surprised that CarPlay pops up almost instantly. There is probably some internal battle between my backup camera, the navigation map system and CarPlay and let's just say CarPlay almost never wins.
In the end, it's slow and I really dislike the plain text interface. I'm supposed to read billboards but Apple can't put album art on the screen or I might be distracted? Crazy thinking...
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What good is WIFI if you don't have a signal? Am I misunderstanding something?
Where do you go that has no signal from Verizon or AT&T?
Believe it or not, a vehicle's antenna on the outside does get better signal than our cell phone inside the vehicle.
