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New Cinema Displays?

Apple only needs to do 3 things with the next ACD:

1. Replace the S-IPS panel with an H-IPS panel (just like what the 24" iMac has). The H-IPS panel is superior to the S-IPS panel in many ways. Too many to list.

2. Add extra ports and HDCP playback. Ports like HDMI and DisplayPort are a must for Apple to remain competitive in the long run.

3. Lower the price (slightly) to stay competitive.
 
Salavat23 said:
Apple only needs to do 3 things with the next ACD:

1. Replace the S-IPS panel with an H-IPS panel (just like what the 24" iMac has). The H-IPS panel is superior to the S-IPS panel in many ways. Too many to list.

2. Add extra ports and HDCP playback. Ports like HDMI and DisplayPort are a must for Apple to remain competitive in the long run.

3. Lower the price (slightly) to stay competitive.
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exactly ...but make that 4;

4. Non-soldered cable! :)
 
Salavat23 said:
1. Replace the S-IPS panel with an H-IPS panel (just like what the 24" iMac has).

3. Lower the price (slightly) to stay competitive.
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Competetive with what? I don't know of any IPS-based LCD monitors that sell for less than Apple's - I'm not counting what I've heard where by chance you may get a Dell that uses one, since it'd be luck of the draw. If you know of any, certainly say - I might want to get one myself. :) But AFAIK, the Apples actually are the least expensive guaranteed IPS-based monitors out there.
 
Salavat23 said:
Apple only needs to do 3 things with the next ACD:

1. Replace the S-IPS panel with an H-IPS panel (just like what the 24" iMac has). The H-IPS panel is superior to the S-IPS panel in many ways. Too many to list.
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Not really, Visually, the differences are minor. H-IPS panels have less spacing between the pixels and a slightly higher contrast ratio, and H-IPS panels don't have the sparkly look that S-IPS panels have. Other than that, they're similar.

H-IPS is just a variation of IPS technology with a different pixel structure to improve the aperture ratio: http://link.aip.org/link/?DTPSDS/35/245/1

But the real upgrade would be to moving to led backlit displays either with s-ips or h-ips wouldnt make a difference really, but apple will probably upgrade to whatever panel is newer at the time and probably will bump it up with h-ips. This is why the mac pro is awesome because say next year or two the new cinema displays get led backlighting then you can just buy one and just use it with your current mac pros.

2. Add extra ports and HDCP playback. Ports like HDMI and DisplayPort are a must for Apple to remain competitive in the long run.
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I guess this would be good for high professional level users of bluray so that they can test the burnt copies of their work?? Other than that, a non professional (like me though) could care less since I have all mkv,wmv bluray 1080p all on my hdd's to watch on my already high definition cinema display at 1920x1200 anyways.. but mainly I have a 52" sony bravia xbr4 that will blow away any computer monitor anyday + hifi surround sound system as well! =D

3. Lower the price (slightly) to stay competitive.
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Like Weepul said, competitive with what?? Apple's prices are good right now for its quality of S-ips panels or similarly priced if not lower than NEC,Eizos. I have a feeling they will stay about the same price.. but then if you think about it their pricing from 3-4 years ago has dropped dramatically.. I remember one of my cousin has a 4 year old 23" cinema display and he paid around $1400 for it brand new.
 
jjahshik32 said:
Not really, Visually, the differences are minor. H-IPS panels have less spacing between the pixels and a slightly higher contrast ratio, and H-IPS panels don't have the sparkly look that S-IPS panels have. Other than that, they're similar.

But the real upgrade would be to moving to led backlit displays either with s-ips or h-ips wouldnt make a difference really, but apple will probably upgrade to whatever panel is newer at the time and probably will bump it up with h-ips. This is why the mac pro is awesome because say next year or two the new cinema displays get led backlighting then you can just buy one and just use it with your current mac pros.
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There are numerous advantages to having H-IPS over S-IPS. For instance, the is much less backlight bleed, also there is no purple hue visible at a given angle. There is also a greater viewing angle, and less noise or glitter is seen on the panel surface.



jjahshik32 said:
Like Weepul said, competitive with what?? Apple's prices are good right now for its quality of S-ips panels or similarly priced if not lower than NEC,Eizos. I have a feeling they will stay about the same price.. but then if you think about it their pricing from 3-4 years ago has dropped dramatically.. I remember one of my cousin has a 4 year old 23" cinema display and he paid around $1400 for it brand new.
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The new S-IPS Dells are cheaper than the the ACDs. For instance, the 2408 is ~$700, while the 23" ACD is ~$900-1000.
 
Salavat23 said:
There are numerous advantages to having H-IPS over S-IPS. For instance, the is much less backlight bleed, also there is no purple hue visible at a given angle. There is also a greater viewing angle, and less noise or glitter is seen on the panel surface.

The new S-IPS Dells are cheaper than the the ACDs. For instance, the 2408 is ~$700, while the 23" ACD is ~$900-1000.
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Yes but the dell you have to play lottery to get an S-IPS screen or else your stuck with a S-PVA, not to mention the glass/circuitry/chip/backlighting is inferior as to the ACD that uses same components as Eizos do.

Most people forget that not only the panel makes a difference in making a good monitor, but other good components is critical in making a good monitor as a whole.

Dells are cheaper for a reason.

I guess the future ACD's can be bumped up to the H-IPS + LED and I'm sold.
 
jjahshik32 said:
Most people forget that not only the panel makes a difference in making a good monitor, but other good components is critical in making a good monitor as a whole.

Dells are cheaper for a reason.
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Well, the question was whether IPS-variant monitors that are less expensive than ACDs exist at all. If it's via luck of a lottery, though, that hardly counts.
 
H-IPS has less spacing between pixels. If Apple updated the ACDs to H-IPS, wouldn't that mean higher resolution for the same size? Or is the difference in DPI so small that it doesn't matter?
 
I've been waiting out for a few months for a ACD as well. I don't think they would release one until they figure out what's the deal with the upcoming BluRay drives.
 
nutmac said:
You've been out of the loop recently. ACD series just does not cover Adobe RGB color space range all that well. Dell, NEC, and others (their higher-end series not the low-end garbage) have larger color space, nearing or even eclipsing Adobe RGB color space. As for the color rendition, calibrate. Calibrate both and Dell will be as accurate as ACD.

Let's face it. ACD was once state-of-the-art, but performance wise, it has been eclipsed by newer generation of monitors. For many, the difference won't be as noticed as ACD's prettier physical design and I happen to be one of them. But it's time that ACD gets more proper, full update.
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FYI -- Not all high end print designers want higher gamut monitors. Apple knows this. In today's world, multiple monitors, each with gamuts targeted towards different output mediums are the norm.
 
MacEmu said:
Where are you getting this information please?

A Dell Community Liason over at Dell forums said it's a S-PVA (albeit a month ago)

http://www.dellcommunity.com/suppor...iew=by_date_ascending&message.id=87847#M87847
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LOL,That's the question I had, but I just didn't even feel like arguing. I know for a fact that 100% of the Dell 2408 monitors are S-PVA. I have had 3 in the last month and know them inside and out. There is no IPS lottery for this monitor like some of the monitors they made a few years ago.
 
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