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The still pics from awkward angles will be bad enough. I can't imagine how much motion sickness the video will induce unless you hold your wrist very still and at some awkward angles. There doesn't seem to be any OIS to help stabilize motion jitters.

But if you have been waiting for something awkward looking to match the lumpy silicone Apple battery case, here it is!

Personally, I don't ever see this type of product getting very far. It just doesn't seem to have a fit in the smart watch market yet, being wearables Is still finding its place in this world. And not to mention, I prefer style and appeal, and this band is far from it for my Apple Watch.
 
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First, happy to engage in a discussion, so no need to get angry.

Second, you really use it the watch exclusively without the phone? That is actually very cool - something I have not done. Will have to try and see how that works.

Third, I did say that when the watch has a cell chip this would make more sense, but stand corrected that in your scenario with wifi this is still useful.

Fourth, using apple pay with the watch is faster than pulling out the phone so it is better. Getting turn cues on the watch without having to look at the watch or phone is better and safer. Fitness tracking is better because the watch has sensors that the phone does not. Taking pictures with a watch is convenient if your phone is not in reach as you stated, but objectively it is not better - lower quality, no flash. So based on this I stand by my better comment as not opinion.

Regardless of that, it will be interesting to see how many people send $400 for a watch and then another $250 (when it retails) for the added band. The article said they are offering the dual charging dock as a bonus to pre-orders, which I interpret (maybe incorrectly) that it will be another cost when it retails. Just seems that this could get expensive fast.

I use Apple Pay on both the watch and phone. I actually find the phone easier to use, as I can use it one handed without having to press the button with my other hand with the watch. Much easier to change payment methods with one hand, and finally, I find Apple Pay difficult to use on many readers, as I have to awkwardly twist my arm and wrist to get it to take, not to mention sometimes turning the screen away in a noisy location and can't hear the transaction tone.

The iPhone offers audible turn by turn direction. I'd hate to miss a subtle tap and not realize I missed a turn.

More accurate Fitness tracking can be handled with many things besides an Apple Watch, and in some cases better. My point is the watch is an accessory which purpose is to make things more convenient, with accepted compromises.

Again, you are subscribing better to something different than I am. Is it objectively better to miss a picture altogether, or capture it with something less than available in the iPhone? Never mind this is a gen 1 device with an 8MP camera, the same as the iPhone 6. In a year, it could have a 12MP camera and a flash. While the iPhone is always going to take objectively better pictures, a reasonably high quality photo that doesn't require finding ones camera is worth at least a thousand words, if not

What's interesting is that someone would spend $600-$1200 on an Apple Watch when they could only spend $400 for the exact same features. $250 is nothing to someone like that who finds the functionality useful. Considering the bands are interchangable and the price of many of Apples bands, $250 for a band that provides useful functions in certain situations is a no-brainier.

FaceTime would be fun, but likely drain the battery in like 10 minutes.
I think the main issue (besides the privacy/creep factor), is the size.
Of all of Apple's products that people complain about getting "too" thin, Apple Watch ain't one of them. It is chunky.
And Apple would love to NOT have a camera hump, they just can't seem to.

I get so tired of the "creepy" label when applied to a camera built into something small and useful. You want creepy -- how's this:

Shot on an iPhone

http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/14/dani-mathers-gym-pic-photo-police-report/

As for the battery drain, 10 minutes of FaceTime seems like baseless hyperbole, like those people who defended Apple's decision not to include GPS in Series 1 because it would drain the battery in minutes. The Apple Watch has always had the ability to make and take phone calls at the cost of battery life reduced to 3 hours of continuous calling -- imagine how quickly it would drain adding other high drain functions to continuous phone calls.
 
As a trail runner, the camera will be great as I can run with the camera and take pictures of the group without having to carry my iPhone.
 
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Well for starters, Apple is likely moving toward independent cell connectivity. There were multiple rumors about it. And you don't even need your phone to use the watch independently now -- wifi connections make it almost entirely usable without the phone. I personally use it exclusively without the phone.

Second, you make a laundry list of reasons the watch is more convenient, then build a case why it wouldn't be the case for the camera.

Do you know how many pictures I've missed because I was digging for my phone? And that's just pulling it out of my pocket, turning it on and accessing the camera. Imagine if your phone is in another room of your house and you want to get a picture before the moment passes? Or in your purse or backpack -- you know because the phone is no longer needed to be at hand because the whole point of the watch is to make phone functions more convenient.

And the list goes on and on of potential uses, quick selfies, FaceTime, barcode scanning, face recognition, etc. There are so many practical reasons for having a camera on the watch, there's no reason not to. And certainly because there's a better camera on the iPhone which is always with you is not one of them. Nor is because it doesn't add the same kind of convenience as Apple Pay, or fitness, or turn by turn directions, or anything else the Apple Watch does, which is frankly ridiculous since many will tell you they don't need the watch at all because they have the phone! You can't have it both ways -- the watch is waiter a handy replacement for things on your phone, or it isn't. Anything in between is personal opinion and nothing more.
nice reasoned post that's not a hit and run like some in this thread.
 
i pre-ordered it but im going to cancel. If you look at all their social media, they dont have 1000 followers on any of them (haven't checked facebook). They said they need a million but $149 equals 6711 people that need to pre-order. If you had people participating, guarantee they would be following you on social media to keep track of everything.

If they can actually manage to release this. ill just take the hit and pay the 250$ but i doubt they will get a million. Unless someomne rich gives them most of the money.

I also hate the fact they didnt use kickstarter or at least have something on their website that shows the progress (preorder $)
 
As a trail runner, the camera will be great as I can run with the camera and take pictures of the group without having to carry my iPhone.

You will probably have to stop and try and get a blurry picture of the backs of your comrades leaving you behind.. even longer behind if you take out your phone to check the resulting picture. :rolleyes:
 
Well here it is January 2018 and no information from CMRA on shipping? No updates, no posts, nothing. Seems like another waste of money on these Indiegogo and Kickstarter things that never launch. Will CMRA ever ship? Reading the tea leaves I doubt it!
 
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