New Developer Programme - Free Tier

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  1. mds1256 macrumors regular

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    Just noticed that Apple now allow you to build an app (that uses no iCloud services) and run it on your own device without having a paid developer subscription.

    I see this question asked a lot on here so hopefully this will be of benefit to those who don't quite want to pay the developer fee just to see their basic app run on their own devices.
     
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    I didn't hear about this, do you have a link to something that shows this? I did a google search and didn't find anything.

    IMO, if this is true, it's a great step forward because testing on the device can show speed and other issues you can't find otherwise.
     
  3. PBG4 Dude macrumors 68000

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    https://developer.apple.com/xcode/?new

    scroll down past the rMBP image.

     
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    OMG! It's true! Stoked!
    Wait! It says: "Xcode 7 and Swift now make it easier for everyone to build apps and run them directly on their Apple devices"

    I hope that doesn't exclude ObjC apps. They wouldn't do that just to push Swift. I see they are pushing Swift, but there's still a ton of work already done in ObjC. Has to be the way the worded it.
     
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    I take it will only work in Xcode 7 but not Xcode 6?
     
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    I'm also guessing this only works when targeting iOS 9?

    Some other good news for Australian developers: not only is the developer program now combined for OS X, iOS and Watch OS, but the subscription price for Australia has dropped back from A$149 to A$99.
     
  7. perlsyntax macrumors 6502

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    So i have to wait to Xcode 7 come out in july right?
     
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    I believe the Xcode 7 beta is open to all. People on other sites have reported success in downloading the Xcode beta without paid ADC membership. I'm already a member so I can't test this out with my Apple ID. Also, Xcode 7 final won't be released until El Capitan GM is out.

    Edit: I get what you mean now. If you can only load on ios9 then yes, you'll need to wait for public beta access.

    Against my better judgment I put iOS 9 on my iPad Air. I've only noticed one bug so far; Photos won't go from a single picture back to album view when selected as a side panel app (whatever they're calling the new non adjustable split view).
     
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    My guess is that it would require 7 because running on the device is controlled by Xcode. As far as which iOS version goes, I would guess it wouldn't be specific for iOS 9 because that would remove all developers on older systems and there's a installed base of business developers that use the older products that won't run iOS 9.
     
  10. ohbrilliance macrumors 6502a

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    Okay, I've just tried it. Xcode 7 beta was able to install a new Objective-C app on my iPhone 6 running 8.3.

    That means we can use this feature without needing iOS 9 (and the paid developer account).

    In my quick test, I didn't have luck installing an existing app I had written, but that's likely due to provisioning set to my expired iOS dev account.
     
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    How did you do it for Xcode 6 just login into your apple id?
     
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    From what he said, he didn't do it with Xcode 6. I doubt Apple will back-grade Xcode 6 at this point because Xcode 7 Beta is already out.

    The next concern is have far back of iOS will it support. My guess is that it'll go back to about iOS 5 because they want people to be on a common dev platform.

    ohbrilliance, can you check if it support older versions of iOS? IDK what device(s) you have, but maybe you have access to an older device that has an older version of iOS on it.

    Either way, I'm betting it'll support back pretty far, at least iOS 7 or maybe 6.

    I have an older device that won't take iOS 7 and don't want to upgrade until the next product cycle because of the new multi-tasking. it gets a bit old having to keep buying all these products just to keep up.
     
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    The oldest I have is an iPhone 4 running iOS 7. I'll give that a go tonight.

    To get an existing app to run in this way I changed the team to my apple dev ID (available in a dropdown) and changed the application identifier. I assume the old identifier was tied to my expired provisioning profile. I'm no expert on provisioning..
     
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    Looking forward to trying this out as I learn Swift
     
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    I think this is really behind Apple move. They are looking for more ways to get more people into the program. It's a smart move on their part. I just hope they don't drop support for ObjC. It takes time to really know a language and runtime, I'd hate to see Swift be able to do things that can't be done in ObjC as far as new APIs.
     
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    Yeah, I always wanted to see the apps I make (or try to make) right on my device and I could never do that because it wasn't worth shelling out $100. I was happy when I saw Apple did this.
     
  17. perlsyntax macrumors 6502

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    So does anyone know if the new apple program is all setup on the apple web site.I am asking just to make sure i won't have any prob sign up for the apple developer program?
     
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    Thanks

    Is there any tax on the developer program and do you still need to sign your app before i install on the device in Xcode 6?
     
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    Nope, no tax. The free-tier is completely free.

    And yes. You'll need the Xcode 7 beta to deploy apps to your device for free. Xcode 6 still requires a dev subscription to run apps on your device I believe
     
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    This is good stuff. This also creates opportunities to "side-load" apps not approved by Apple granted the creator would have to release their application as an Xcode project.
     
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    I thought it would come out to $100.00 for the tax and if you want to do just free app you don't need to worry about the paid app?

    What do i need to know if i just want to do free app?
     
  23. batting1000, Jun 10, 2015
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    Not sure what you're talking about.

    Apple announced that you no longer require a paid developer account to test your apps on your device when you use Xcode 7. Prior to this announcement, you would've had to be enrolled in the iOS or Mac OS X developer program for $99 a year if you wanted to test apps you wrote in Xcode directly on your device.

    While testing apps directly on your device is now free, you still have to pay the $99 subscription to access betas and put your app in the App Store. Previously, free developers were restricted to using only the iOS Simulator in Xcode to test apps.
     
  24. perlsyntax macrumors 6502

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    I was thinking of sign up for apple developer program.But i just asking some question before i sign up.So i am out of luck for using Xcode 7.
     
  25. batting1000 macrumors 604

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    Xcode 7 beta is free. You can download it here: https://developer.apple.com/xcode/downloads/
     

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