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New Device? Multifunctional Combo Device?

Here's the scoop...

It's been interesting reading all these ideas about the new device. But here's the scoop from a reliable source.

This new device called iPad, will be Apple's version of a pocket PC device. It will feature a larger display (in terms of PDA's) that takes advantage of Inkwell and feature 32 bit color. It well have a video input similar to that of the Sony Clié. It will have Airport Extreme allowing wireless internet connections. With these features combined in one device, you will have a PDA that allows video conferencing and web browsing via a WiFi connection. It will sport a Jr. version of Saffari called Excursion. The OS has been dubbed OS 1/X (1/10). It's OS X on a weight loss program but with for support iChat, iTunes, and iSync. The hardware will feature: 20GB hard drive, 32Mb RAM, Firewire, audio out, microphone. It looks alot like an overgrown iPod. It even has a wheel.
 
Originally posted by cubist
It's obviously not an Apple Tablet. The features sound very close to the Sony Ericsson P800 phone, which has the Symbian software and is supposed to be a vastly better PDA than this stupid T68i that I have, and it has bigger, more usable buttons and a bigger, more readable display too. (Should have waited. :()
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Nowhere in the rumor does it mention "highly portable" or "pocket-sized". It could very well be a home video phone. You would obviously want PDA-like features to get at your address book, etc... And connecting into a display would make for better video-conferencing.
 
Re: Here's the scoop...

Originally posted by Fender2112
It's been interesting reading all these ideas about the new device. But here's the scoop from a reliable source.

This new device called iPad, will be Apple's version of a pocket PC device. It will feature a larger display (in terms of PDA's) that takes advantage of Inkwell and feature 32 bit color. It well have a video input similar to that of the Sony Clié. It will have Airport Extreme allowing wireless internet connections. With these features combined in one device, you will have a PDA that allows video conferencing and web browsing via a WiFi connection. It will sport a Jr. version of Saffari called Excursion. The OS has been dubbed OS 1/X (1/10). It's OS X on a weight loss program but with for support iChat, iTunes, and iSync. The hardware will feature: 20GB hard drive, 32Mb RAM, Firewire, audio out, microphone. It looks alot like an overgrown iPod. It even has a wheel.
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Even an overgrown Clie would be useless for video-conferencing. Video conferencing needs a stationary camera. If I am going to be writing on this thing and moving it around it's going to make the people on the other end of the line very, very sick. Not to say they won't make such a device (although I can't imagine what special things they would put in that would make it More Than Just Another PDA (tm)) but as you described it would be worthless for video-conferencing.
 
I notice everybody likes my Robot Monkey A/V idea.

I am glad.

I will be prototyping it out if Apple doesn't release it first, so hopefully a Monkey that can store and play audio/video will become reality before the end of the year. That is my dream. Hopefully the Robotic Monkey, in addition to A/V capabilities, will be able to open cans of corn with his hands.

My people call it maize.

Unfortunately the Inflatormaus (aka Inflator Mouse) project is on hold, what on account I dunno what it would do. nor look like. nor even know what the hell I'm talking about.

2003! The year of Robot Monkey A/V!
 
I'm stumped.

Maybe it's a wristwatch like Johnny Socko and the Giant Robo. Or maybe a shoe like Maxwell Smart.

Hmmm. This is mindboggling. Unless it's the new ipod or tablet... :D


Yes, ROBO MONKEY is good, JtheLemur. However, remember the reason why people who work at the zoo hate cleaning the cages (especially the monkey cage) has a lot to do with the amount of ((ahem)) "stuff" they tend to distribute all over the cage.

If your ROBO MONKEY can do this, then you've got a sure winner. I'm sure Apple'll by a ton and send them off to every Microsoft employee... heh! :D

For a better definition of "stuff" talk to eyelikeart. He's a connoisseur of it. :D
 
Some thoughts from mobile space insider

I see many problems here, that's why i don't believe this rumor as much as I don't believe Vivendy buyout rumor. Reasoning:

1. Mobile phones are sold via operator-owned sales networks with significant subscriber discounts. Getting in to this market is very difficult for any US player without excisting distribution network and operator relationships because of the weak position of GSM standard in US and the resulting lack of experience. Eaven Moto has difficulties in channeling.
2. Apple seems to be entering to the quickly rising markets only and cellphones market is in maturity stadium. Smartphones market is rising, but it's getting saturated very fast and there's already two big OS players here - Symbian (all leading manufacturers in Europe incl. Ericsson and Nokia) and Microsoft (current PDA contracts, trying to follow the spartphone trend). There's no space in so small market (and smartphone market IS small) for more OS-s and I don't think, that market will accept Apple's OS so easily. It has to contain some very-very special and impossible to copy features.
3. Fighting in mobile market is bloody and the current market leader - Nokia - is virtually unbeatable (Ericsson lost the market eavent with the 2 gen newer phone than Nokias this-time offerings). Instead of kicking the beast, work together with it.
4. Ericsson is in his weakest position ever on mobile market. And P800 has many weaknesses (glass breaks easiliy on pressure to the keyboard, phone won't charge in cradle!!!).
5. Mobile equipment manufacturers are overstressed and have cut the costs wherever possible. That makes it difficult to keep up with Apple's quality requirements.
 
Re: Some thoughts from mobile space insider

Originally posted by ipiloot
I see many problems here, that's why i don't believe this rumor as much as I don't believe Vivendy buyout rumor. Reasoning:
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Again, I haven't seen "mobile" attached to this rumor (unless you are assuming that because of Eriksson's involvement). I agree with your rationale that it is unlikely that Apple would enter the mobile phone market. So the question then becomes, would Eriksson work on a non-mobile phone product?
 
Re: Re: Some thoughts from mobile space insider

Originally posted by DGFan
Again, I haven't seen "mobile" attached to this rumor (unless you are assuming that because of Eriksson's involvement). I agree with your rationale that it is unlikely that Apple would enter the mobile phone market. So the question then becomes, would Eriksson work on a non-mobile phone product?
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Eriksson has made land line phones in the past. My wife had one that was a Which? (UK consumer mag) best buy, but was utterly useless. Prior to the Sony merger, I always heard that Eriksson mobiles were rubbish as well... Sony seems to have pulled Eriksson's socks up.

I am sceptical about a mobile phone. I think Apple will wait until 3G to release a phone at which point they will have enough mobile bandwidth for their music (and video?) service. I don't think there's enough bandwidth in GPRS, let alone GSM, to fit in with their digital hub / media on demand strategy. However it wouldn't surprise me if they release this product in Japan and Europe where 3G is being rolled out before they release in the US. I think this device will be an iPod with Inkwell, full PDA features and music and video on demand. When everyone quotes Steve as saying Apple wouldn't do a PDA, the context was that he said that PDA's were going away and people would increasingly use more functional phones rather than carry two devices, i.e., consolidation / integration. I don't think Apple will do a pure PDA. Combo MP4 / phone / PDA on 3G so you can get music and video on demand... now that is an Apple product but its a year or more away.

Sanj

Sanj
 
GeneR - since the Monkey would be Robotic, he would not leave said 'stuff' all over the cages. I mean, that feature could always be added as an upgrade later, for those desiring a more realistic Robot Monkey A/V (probably dubbed A/V/P for audio/video/poop)... =D
 
it's ericsson! with a C not a K

Originally posted by ssamani
Eriksson has made land line phones in the past. My wife had one that was a Which? (UK consumer mag) best buy, but was utterly useless. Prior to the Sony merger, I always heard that Eriksson mobiles were rubbish as well... Sony seems to have pulled Eriksson's socks up.
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ericsson makes great phones! they are much better than nokia! they have newer tech! when did nokia support bluetooth? when did they have a colour screen?
the T68 was mostly designed by ericsson, then when sony ericsson came they redigned it (same hardware just different look) they called the T68i, sony ericsson still makes better phones than nokia! nokia has 4 different models that are exactly the same! and they even charge you differently! i just hate they way they do that! they are years leat with tech! and their UI hasn't changed in ages! it's just horrible!!! they don't sell phones they sell snake! "now with the ability to make phone calls!" just stupid!
now that that is out of my chest -phew!- i just want to add that most mobile phones suck... I had the P800 and for the time i had it was the best phone ever... i only had it for 5 hours it broke after that... I got a lemon i guess lol now i'm stuck with a nokie 66whatever with a colour screen and it's the stupidest phone ever! but i already went through that.

anyway back to the romour... maybe apple is just helping ericsson to make a mac friendly phone, maybe they want to port quicktime? or some other stuff? it could be the P850 compatible with mac OS X, oh and it works with that other OS... but it works with OS X much better!...

thank you
MaT
 
just so you guys know...

ericsson does not do mobile phones any longer... that is all sony ericsson... i work for both companies, and sony ericsson is a completely different entity now, they actually do promos with ericsson. they also fight alot. But i will say that i have had a t68i since prototype phase and it is one of the best phones i have ever used...
on that,,, apple did sign some type of business deal with sony ericsson a while ago, so who knows?? maybe, but i doubt it... IBM on the other hand, someone from there told me to keep an eye out about a month from now for an announcement that i would surely enjoy... hmmmm... 970? or something completely different? OS X on IBM Blade Server running powerPC??? oh my god the possibilities are endless!!!:D
 
If Apple did release a phone with im capabilities, it better have a keyboard!!!!! IM phones with no keyboard are the stupidist product to come out on the mobile telecomunications market today. You can fit a qwerty keyboard on a mobile phone and still retain its portability (i.e. t-mobile sidekick). In addition, a keyboard greatly improves the speed by which one can surf the internet on a mobile device.

No way am I going to spend all my time pressing the number buttons again and again to get a letter and eventually make a sentence. I've got better things to do.........well, no I don't, but if I did I wouldn't be using a keyboardless phone. That's for sure!

Oh. Bye the way, Apple can compete in the mobile phone market if they are teamed up with sony-erricson. No doubt about it. What we would have to worry about is the service provider. Sprint's vision network is the only reasonable priced voice and unlimited data plan out right now. AT&T's prices (around $100) are just unacceptable and T-mobile, at least for me and the rest of us in Northern Virginia, has horribly weak service.
 
Re: just so you guys know...

Originally posted by technocoy
...Apple did sign some type of business deal with sony ericsson a while ago...
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MWNY in July of '02.

During his keynote, SJ announced a partnership between Apple, Sony Ericsson, and Cingular Wireless [I dont want to hear $h!t about how Cingular sucks because I know this already].

Nothing has come of out this partnership...Yet. :D
 
sounds like something out of a doctor who episode...

"hold on, where are we? that shouldn't have happened. something must have gone wrong with the multifunctional combo device. or was it the time slave relay, i wonder... [stares blankly]

just a moment [runs back to the tardis]"
 
New Device

Hi. Does anyone know why this issue hasn't generated much discussion? I noticed that in the time leading up to the iMac and the iPod, there was a great deal of commotion.

I need a PDA badly and I wish that Apple would make one soon.
 
RDC I think that mangoduck has it right, a few of us know that the timeline has been changed and it would take a person with two hearts and a TARDIS (Time And Relative Dimensions In Space) to be able put thing right. -Super nerdieness out of the way.

RDC if you really need a PDA then you should pick one up. Tools make ones life easier, while toys are primarily for fun. If the PDA is going to be a tool, then pick one up. If you’re more interested in the toy function, then wait.

If you’re interested: I have a tangerine Visor with keyboard, 32mB Smart Memory card, SM Spring Board with backup software, external dock, and spare color styluses. Give me an email if you want to bid. (I’m fair, I let an Apple MP120 go for 150 to a kid that I knew would use and take care of it.) Eniregnat at Hotmail dot com
 
Originally posted by cubist

And we've already heard that 10.2.5 now supports the P800, so this rumor probably is a confused report of that fact. The only part that makes no sense is connecting it to the Cinema Display.
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I've seen a powermac 400 rnning 10.2.5 crash after it tied to connect to a p800 via bluetooth.
That has been fixed in 10.2.6 so you will probably want to upgrade.

However, isync doesn't work yet (I expect it to be compatible with symbian around the WWDC)
 
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