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So, $999 low powered 13" likely with 1 or 2 usb-c ports...or $1299 for a low powered 12" with 1 usb-c port...hmm.
Weird, isn't it? The only thing I can think of that would make this possible is Tim discovering a basement full of 5400rpm hard drives and Core 2 Duo processors.

(I would buy the hell out of a 13" rMB, while complaining to hell and back about how the value of my 2016 m5 one has suddenly dropped.)
 
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INNER SQUEE-MAC FANBOY: they'll release the current MacBook low-end with a new, low-end processor for $899!! The new MacBook line will have the MBP control strip! Woo! And everything above the base model keeps the same price, but has way more cores and stuff, blubber-spit.

INNER REALIST: the low-end laptop will be a neutered MacBook, perhaps just the lowest of last year's models with even less memory and drive space.

INNER APPLE CEO: we'll sell the MacBook Air exactly as it is with the cheapest, newest processor that we can put in it, ditch some of the drive space and bells-n-whistles, and act like it is something new and amazing! PEOPLE WILL LOVE IT! Yesterday's tech at today's prices! We'll be rich!! ... We'll make it obsolete in a month or two.
 
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I see the 12" rMB being the new entry level with a $100 lower price point courtesy of a 128Gb SSD option.

This new 13 Retina MacBook Air will actually be a new 13" Retina MacBook but upgraded with a U-series CPU (Surface Pro / book has U series in fanless design) with 256 / 512 8 / 16 options.

The 13" rMBP will go to 15W Quad Core and the 15" will get the hex core and maybe a 32GB option.
 
So I have a 2013 MBA

The keyboard issues with the MBP make those effectively a no go for me (unless you wanna budget in AppleCare it's basically a must for the machine).
The 12" MacBook would be my pick, but Intel Core M makes it roughly on par with my MBA geek bench scores so no upgrade there. Also, 1 USB C port, not even Thunderbolt 3. Plus because no fan my MBA can probably run circles around the core M processor after an hour of heavy load.

There is just no upgrade path for me at the moment.

Maybe my next MacBook will be an Air (again):)

I agree. I also have a MBA 2013. Apple's recent decisions with new laptops have saved me lots of money.
 
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Apples MacBook lineup is so screwed up lol

My guess is they have different teams working on different products and they probably don't share ideas with each other.


Apple employee conversation:

"Oh really? you guys are using USB C on the products you design? No kidding just one port? Still using a headphone jack? I heard Bob over in the phone department said they took out the headphone jack a while ago".
 
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Wouldn't it be simpler to have only the Macbook and the Macbook Pro lines, just improved the 1-port Macbook with something a little more polyvalent (go nuts and give it a second port?) ; the MBA already shouldn't be there anymore, the rMB should be better and cheaper, the MBP is fine as is.
 
Aah, the first sign of cognitive post-PC acknowledgment across the board.
Tim will be soo proud...

If it is so hard for a $1 trillion company to to find a better screen, toss an existing iPad on top of a decent keyboard and let it run macOS

And on the opposite end of the spectrum, you've got Microsoft churning out truly innovative devices such as the Surface Book/Studio, bezel-less displays such as the XPS 13, and what is becoming an increasingly convincing platform that has finally evolved with the times.

I'm hoping it wasn't just hearsay when Tim said that they were committed to the future of the Mac. In the face of everything that the PC market has undergone and innovated things like the Touch Bar just don't cut it and leaving two of your three (now four?) desktops abandoned for nearly three years is absolutely pathetic.

People will pay good money for something that lasts. Remember that when it launched, the price of the Apple II was $2495 which if adjusted for inflation today is well over $6K! Keep a few bones for the little people that just can't afford your best, but make sure that the best is the best.
 
Will the CPU be ARM?

I replaced my 2006 MacMini with a Raspberry Pi and I'm extraordinarily pleased with the performance boost I got, plus the price ($30. Insane.)
 
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  • No HDMI - used a lot for presentations and I am not going to start carrying around dongles. My bag is full enough.
  • No magsafe - This has saved my laptop from flying across the room on no less than 5 occasions.
  • A gimmicky touchbar that I'd be paying a premium for.
  • "That" keyboard...
My list would be much like yours. If Apple really wants to do this laptop right, they need to take a look at the new Ruger PC Carbine and what reviewers are saying about it on YouTube. The company listened to potential customers and came up with a design that's a perfect blend of features at a reasonable cost. And I have heard that the engineer in charge of its design is absolutely delighted. It's a career-making success for him. Apple could do a laptop much like that.

https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/models.html
 
Confusing product line. :eek:

Yes I agree. I think the current air is a joke price with all the old tech inside it.

I think the should just ditch the air and have MacBook 13 inch and then pro 13 inch & a pro 15 inch.

I don't get the point of the 12.
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Still no sign of a redesigned Mac mini

I saw someone buying one the other day! couldn't believe it.
 
And on the opposite end of the spectrum, you've got Microsoft churning out truly innovative devices such as the Surface Book/Studio, bezel-less displays such as the XPS 13, and what is becoming an increasingly convincing platform that has finally evolved with the times.

I'm hoping it wasn't just hearsay when Tim said that they were committed to the future of the Mac. In the face of everything that the PC market has undergone and innovated things like the Touch Bar just don't cut it and leaving two of your three (now four?) desktops abandoned for nearly three years is absolutely pathetic.

People will pay good money for something that lasts. Remember that when it launched, the price of the Apple II was $2495 which if adjusted for inflation today is well over $6K! Keep a few bones for the little people that just can't afford your best, but make sure that the best is the best.
And therein lies the issue. Apple earns from hardware. They are not going to make a product with niche appeal that sells only in limited quantities and won’t even come close to recouping their R&D costs. That’s why we hadn’t seen a Mac Pro. There’s just no money in it.

It’s also worth noting that those Microsoft products aren’t really selling in any significant numbers.

So while you might find them innovative, they seem to be having a harder time resonating with the general consumer populace. People aren’t going gaga over touchscreen laptops, so in the very least, Apple doesn’t seem to have been wrong in not going down that route.
 
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I have a feeling this will be just a refreshed non-TB MacBook Pro. Remember that Apple targeted these towards those liking the 13.3” MacBook Air.

So what we might see
MacBook Air discontinued.
The non-TB MacBook Pro (and maybe the retina MacBook) get some price adjustments.

Nothing to get excited for here folks. The info tells me that. It’s just rumor sites like to speculate more than what it is.

I fear you might be correct. This rumor could just be a price reduction to the nTB MBP. If so, it’s a none starter for me because of the keyboard failure issues.......unless, of course, they redesign and fix the keyboard on the current model MBP, which seems unlikely, since Apple has had almost 3 years to deal with this butterfly mechanism debacle starting with the rMB. No dice.
 
Of course, we'll have to wait and see final configuration(s), price, etc., but this sounds good, there really shouldn't be a non-"retina" display in the lineup.

If the MacBook Air gets a 13.3" 2560x1600 screen, I'd like to see the 13" MacBook Pro move to a 2880x1800 screen and the 15" MacBook Pro move to a 3,360x2,100 screen. I often like the extra desktop space of scaled 1440x900 on the 13" MacBook Pro and it'd be great to get that as a native scaled density.

You know, I've said for some time, not only would I like a resolution bump, but for the Pro models to move to a set of new, unique sizes: 14" and 16", with super small bezels, I bet there's quite a few buyers for a machine with the display area (way more resolution) of our dearly departed MBP 17" :)
 
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Not so much to get excited about at that price point. Apple will give you some junk CPU, soldered 4 or 8GB RAM and soldered 128GB SSD (slow SATA interface, not fast PCI-e).

By the time you configure it to be useful for 4-5 years, it'll be $1300.
 
Likely to have

  1. Soldered Flash Storage.
  2. Soldered RAM
  3. Soldered CPU
  4. Non removable battery
  5. No MagSafe power cord
  6. Integrated WIFI card
  7. Less ports
This so called value product, slight reduction on cost for consumer Whilst being the biggest ever profit markup product for Apple.

Passing less value to consumer, whilst cutting off the second hand parts / market use. Going the full road to ensure no one can mend. It's not green.

Apple must be rolling about the floor in laughter, green products. Dollar green !!!. Green dollar good for Apple but not the environment.
 
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If the MacBook Air gets a 13.3" 2560x1600 screen, I'd like to see the 13" MacBook Pro move to a 2880x1800 screen and the 15" MacBook Pro move to a 3,360x2,100 screen. I often like the extra desktop space of scaled 1440x900 on the 13" MacBook Pro and it'd be great to get that as a native scaled density.
That's the same resolution as the flagship 15" MacBook Pro which would make the 13" MacBook Pro (with 2560x1600) a tough sell.
No customer considering the MacBook Air would appreciably see a visual fidelity increase between those two resolutions. Therefore, it's not worth the extra cost in Apple's entry level notebook SKU.
 
That's beginning to sound like what's going to happen, this new 13" MacBook takes the $999 price point, the air gets discounted by a couple of hundred (presumably to try and reach the mac mini user base who just want a cheap mac?)

Surely the MacBook Air will be history after this low-cost retina 13" comes out. Maybe the 12" MacBook too. It's just way too confusing having so many different models in the mix.
 
I just wanna know how all this impacts the MacBook Pro. I’ve been waiting a few months now for an update. Looking for that 13” quad-core.

Buyers’ Guide even says “don’t buy” now. When are MBP Coffee Lake updates coming?! Better not make us wait until WWDC for everything this year.
Intel launched 15w Coffee Lake U-series CPUs (i7-8650U, i7-8550U and i5-8250U) in Q3 of 2017, which would be suited to the 13" Function Keys MacBook Pro, but they still have not announced 8th Generation 28w U-Series that we would expect to see in the Touch Bar 13" MacBook Pro. Intel does have quad-core G-Series CPUs (Vega GPU built-in) that Apple "could" use in their 15" MacBook Pros, but I suspect they are waiting on H-Series six-core CPUs to be released before they refresh the 15" version, although it's possible they may use the G-Series as a stop gap until the six-core CPUs are released (hopefully, with support for DDR4 and more than 16GB of max RAM). I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for Apple to announce anything before Q3 of this year for the 13" and 15" MacBook Pro lineup.
 
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