New Force Touch Track Pad, but no Broadwell????

eldervovichka

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**** Never mind.... I was reading rumors this morning and one of the ones I was reading was from last year and didn't look at that date. This is what happens when you are too excited about wanting to buy a new Apple product and you are up too early and reading rumors while sleepy. Sorry for being that guy!****

Am I seeing things correctly!!!!! I have been waiting to buy a new MacBook Pro.... the tech page still says 4th Gen Processors.... on the 15". To pay $2500 and still get the old processor is disappointing, now do I wait and see if they do anything with the 13" at WWDC?

Jeff
 
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eldervovichka

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You are correct, there are no new MacBooks yet, as Intel has just recently released the skylake chipset with decent GPUs for Apple's laptops. Apple was waiting just like us
No, Apple just updated the 15" as they didn't have Force Touch Track Pads before, only the 13" did. The rumor was they were also going to get the new processors today, but since that didn't happen, we won't likely see it on June 13th.
 

Closingracer

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You are correct, there are no new MacBooks yet, as Intel has just recently released the skylake chipset with decent GPUs for Apple's laptops. Apple was waiting just like us


Intel released skylake a long time ago......
 

Closingracer

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The 15 inch wasn't updated with broadwell since Intel decided they aren't making quad core variants since it was delayed and skylake was going to be released soon by then. Skylake was released around Fall 2015
 

Samuelsan2001

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Yeah, that's probably another reason, but I do think they typically keep their release schedule fairly rigid, i.e., it will get released when they're ready.
Yeah I love that about Apple no bowing to pressure, no rush to get the latest thing out with no thought to quality and stability (I'm looking at you surface book) and a quality first attitude to tech not latest is always greatest no matter how poorly it's implemented we see in other manufacturers.
 

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Yeah, the SurfaceBook really stumbled out of the gate and it took MS a long time to resolve the issues, too long. I like the SB and was tempted, but it was very expensive and I couldn't justify that much money, especially on a gen 1 product which for once I used some level of intelligence (which I normally don't :) )

Apple may though be a little more aggressive in its product line, given how they are experiencing such a large drop off last quarter.
 

Closingracer

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He's talking about the 6770, 6870, 6970 chips with the Iris Pro 580 GPU. These are new.

Those are pretty old still ..... I can make an argument they should just wait for Kaby lake or whatever the next one is...
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Yeah, the SurfaceBook really stumbled out of the gate and it took MS a long time to resolve the issues, too long. I like the SB and was tempted, but it was very expensive and I couldn't justify that much money, especially on a gen 1 product which for once I used some level of intelligence (which I normally don't :) )

Apple may though be a little more aggressive in its product line, given how they are experiencing such a large drop off last quarter.

It is as expensive as a Macbook pro... Honestly once you pass the $1,000 mark its all "expensive"
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More likely they are waiting for AMD to release Polaris.

It took Apple 2-3 years to replace the Nvidia 750M inside? doubt they are waiting for that
 

dallegre

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Those are pretty old still ..... I can make an argument they should just wait for Kaby lake or whatever the next one is...
Have they actually shipped in anything yet? AFAIK, they are just barely starting to leak into benchmarks.
 

Closingracer

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I'm pretty sure it's a matter of availability and not will. Intel's own product is just now getting to the market.

And Apple is notoriously slow in adapting new tech inside their devices.... Be it their phones, tablets or etc
 

dallegre

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And Apple is notoriously slow in adapting new tech inside their devices.... Be it their phones, tablets or etc
Okay, but in this specific case, if Apple is waiting on these chips (as people speculate) to release new MBPs soon (as people speculate), they'll be introducing new tech quite quickly. We'll find out soon enough whether or not that actually happens at WWDC (as people are speculating).
 

Closingracer

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Okay, but in this specific case, if Apple is waiting on these chips (as people speculate) to release new MBPs soon (as people speculate), they'll be introducing new tech quite quickly. We'll find out soon enough whether or not that actually happens at WWDC (as people are speculating).

Skylake is already over 6 months old and Kaby lake is right around the corner....TBH I would just wait until the Fall or even early 2017 to update their devices.
 

Mcmeowmers

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Skylake is already over 6 months old and Kaby lake is right around the corner....TBH I would just wait until the Fall or even early 2017 to update their devices.
From their recent earnings- Apple has dipped in sales and that is likely because of no new hardware. Not to be rude but, how would waiting fix the sales issue? So they'd have a stronger product in ~8 months?

Realistically I agree. Waiting is better as the current CPUs are still amazing. Heck, CPUs that are a couple years older are still amazing.

The part of my opinion you may disagree with: I think the issue is that software is poorly written nowadays. Take Chrome (no extensions) for example. How is it acceptable for it to easily take 20-40% of a modern mobile CPU to display a gif? An iPod can do this just fine and just as fast. Oh and if you get some flash in there, goodbye battery in 3 hours. (I know if the speed increases it can complete the task faster resulting in less total energy, etc. but what if it stays on screen for an extended period of time).

What I am saying is is that for most consumers a new cpu is not needed if software was written better so I agree that waiting is better. Maybe just for other reasons.
 
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