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New Get A Mac Ad: Office Stress

goodcow said:
Maybe if Office 2008 wasn't such a piece of garbage...
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we got a copy of office2008 and i installed it. then uninstalled it. now i am happy using office2004 again :)

one thing that really annoyed me was, creating screenshots of windows (for documentation) then pasting them in word2008. copy/paste it in photoshop the image is "smaller" than when i do it with word2004...

has anyone had this problem?

oh. back to the topic. yeah it was a decent ad. interesting that SJ informed us during a keynote that office2008 is finally coming... and now apple basically says it sucks :confused:
 
MartiNZ said:
I like the ad, but I agree about it not quite being the reality with Office 2008.

*snip*

Some things have improved though - Word handles pasting in pictures much better than in 2004, and handles vector images as well. I haven't actually tried pasting in Excel graphs yet, but maybe, just maybe, they will even work properly with vertical axis labels :).

So yeah, good ad!
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You haven't tried pasting in Excel graphs because maybe it runs too slow?
OK. The previous 2 weeks I've been doing quite a lot of work in Excel for uni. Whenever I drag anything in Excel, the fancy translucent outline and cell co-ordinate tooltip makes Excel virtually unusable.

I drag the thing downwards, and the page starts scrolling... one... cell... at... a.. time... By the time I got the thing down to where I want it, Excel is still playing catchup and then overshoots. I end up having to drag it back up.. one... cell... at... a.. time...

Even just dragging a graph within the same window scope (ie. not scrolling) is laggy. I grab the graph, drag it around and then watch the translucent outline float along slowly, following the exact path that the mouse took at the same relative speeds (ie. I slow my mouse down somewhere, the outline will also slow down when it gets there).

If I hadn't been pulling my hair out begging Excel to just save the time and draw the graph at the end and not bother with the path, it might've been fun to watch.

And the live update when changing charts is... ..try formatting the axis scales of a 180,000 point chart, and wait 2 minutes as you type in the 'min' field: "6"... *two minutes as it redraws* ..."60"... *another two minutes* ..."600"... *another two minutes* 'enter'... *another minute or so*.. then it'll probably lock up and crash just to piss you off...

Now do this at 3am the morning the report is due :eek:

OK.. rant over.. I feel better now :D
 
Compatable?

If they can only figure an easy way to move from outlook to Entourage. Still trying even after purchase of 2 other software programs that claim to work. Many issues from windows 07 to Mac 08 in Excel also... :mad: Yes, Mac users like me need the stress ball...
 
Funny ad, but it strikes me the wrong way. I have to run Parallels for the sole purpose of using Office 2007. Excel for the new Office:Mac has excluded all VBA support, which means that Solver is crippled (the most useful feature in the program). Moreover, all of the useful statistical packages are .exe files that only run on Excel for Windows. Oh well, c'est la vie. Microsoft wins my business again (Windows, Office, etc.)!
 
Office 2008 takes longer to launch than Office 2004 on my intel macs (which is quite interesting considering rosetta).

They also made Excel 2008 completely useless for scientific graphing by removing the interface for adding custom error bars. Oh, it can still understand them just fine, you just can't edit or add them because they removed that part of the interface (and no, they didn't move it, it is gone). Thankfully with the last update the got rid of the crash every 3 seconds bug in excel.

Saying Office 2008 is an advantage is pretty funny considering what a piece of junk it is.
 
SiriusExcelsior said:
I drag the thing downwards, and the page starts scrolling... one... cell... at... a.. time... By the time I got the thing down to where I want it, Excel is still playing catchup and then overshoots. I end up having to drag it back up.. one... cell... at... a.. time...
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one..cell...at...a...time... was amazingly descriptive!
ps I use vmware with Office 2003. Will wait a few more years before I'm willing to learn 2007
 
While this rant has taken an anit-office 2008 slant, I for some reason have the notion that this is going to be the last release of an "office" product by MS for Mac. Has anyone else heard wether this is bunk or not. Personally, I use excel 04 when I have to because of macro support, and can't justify upgrading. I hate the way MS products still include windows styled drop-downs and other things in their GUI just because they want it to be the anti-mac, mac application...
 
swingerofbirch said:
I think this is called biting the hand that feeds you.

(Office comes from Microsoft, and "PC" is largely identified by running Microsoft Windows.)

It would be like Microsoft saying, "PC's got the latest version of iTunes, so you don't need a Mac."
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Well PC charactor is both Hardware and OS. If you realize it he wan't showing his shortcomings of Windows or PC in general he was just pissed that Mac can do things he can.

You really need to take a look on what feature they are explaining. Some days they are designed to bust on the likes of Dell, other days Microsoft. You need to rember the odd relationship Apple and Microsoft have. They are competitors and partners at the same time. Just with different units. Their OS Competes with Windows, but partner for Professional Grade Office tools (sorry iWork isn't professional level, it is good for home stuff) as well they partner with MS with things such as Exchange Support for iPhone. But will compete on Music Players and technology.

If you pay attention when they mention Vista they just say Vista. But when they say something nice about Microsoft they usually give the Full Name. Microsoft Office etc... They really want to differeantate Microsoft as a company and the product they are cometing with.
 
I liked it. Not the best in my own opinion but it was catchy.

Personally, I like the "Choose a Vista!" Get a Mac ad.

And from all the "Office 2008 blows" posts, I think I'm sticking with 2004 :)
 
Are they still doing these sorts of ads in the UK and Japan? I'd heard they weren't as well received.
 
X5-452 said:
Speaking from experience? Because yesterday I sat on the couch watching my sister become increasingly aggravated and agitated as Microsoft Word 2008 for Mac crashed no fewer than five times in a row as she tried to create a lesson plan document with images pasted in it.
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Did you download the 12.0.1 update from Microsoft? Once I did that all my stability problems were, uh, greatly reduced.
 
*yawn* another "Get a Mac" ad. Yea to Apple for actually advertising the Mac, but maybe what should really be airing now is a series of "Get a New Ad Agency" shorts.

acfusion29 said:
I wonder if by the end of this whole ad campaign, will John Hodgman be on Apple's side.. :rolleyes:
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Now if they hooked up Brokeback Mountain style when it's all said and done, I'll take back every bad thing I've ever said about this ad campaign.
 
Weird Commercial...


I can't stand Office for Mac. Slow, bloated, and everything else. Unfortunately, when attending a Microsoft Youth school you don't have much of a choice. You are basically taught that
"macs suck the mouse only has teh uno button"
"internetz exploerez are the only thingz to connect to the internet wirez"

sucks.

ts
 
Office issues

Try this open PowerPoint 2008 add an audio file (mp3) so it plays in the background then save the file as a powerpoint 97-2004 format (previous version) now quit PowerPoint 2008.

Now open the file. This corrupts the PPT file EVERY TIME. Smile :)

Now only if Office 2008 could do something useful like open Publisher files so they can be converted to PDF, Access compatibility wouldn't be bad either.
 
Though I use iWork '08, I did use Microsoft Office 2008 for a while and it worked fine. No issues with it at all. But in the end, I didn't need all the functionality and returned to iWork, as it's a bit lighter.
 
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