Thanks for your reply, maybe I should upgrade... And yes of course it will make noise, but mine is very distracting and worse than my 2tb WD external disk.
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Thanks for your reply, maybe I should upgrade... And yes of course it will make noise, but mine is very distracting and worse than my 2tb WD external disk.
If you follow the Apple Support discussions, you would find a mounting body of evidence from a mounting number of service issues that there is something wrong with whatever RAM is being used for the OWC NuRAM 4x4GB (16GB total) installations.
People who are sending it back and getting Hynix and Samsung RAM (even if it is from OWC) are not having the spontaneous shutdowns.
There is other anecdotal evidence that makes it seem possible that stepping down to 12GB solves the problem with NuRAM OWC modules. However, IMHO, not enough people have reported this, yet, to be taken as Gospel. I do believe that enough people have reported back to take it as Gospel that the cheapest OWC modules called NuRAM are causing a problem when used as 4x4GB.
In my case, I decided not to take any chances, and went from 16 GB of NuRAM down to 12 GB of Samsung and I have not had any more shutdowns.
I have to say that OWC (macsales.com) were very easy to deal with and immediately issued an RMA for the NuRAM and shipped the Samsung memory quickly and without a lot of effort on my part, although I had to eat the $10.70 shipping expense of sending it back to them. You might not even have to pay shipping back, now that there are a couple of long threads at Apple Support talking about how it's rather obviously OWC NuRAM that is causing the biggest problem.
A couple of people responding in the Apple Support threads were Apple employees, and I am thereby certain that it is not a mainboard or firmware problem. It is a RAM problem.
About Crucial: Be careful. Their online automatic configuration routine did not work correctly for me and they sent me RAM that would not even allow my iMac to start. The chip configuration was just wrong, and there's no way around it.
And Crucial compounded the issue by not responding to my request for an RMA for two weeks. From here on, I do not think I will have any reason to buy anything for my Apple products from Crucial.
Bottom line is you can trust OWC, but I would not buy NuRAM from them. Don't be too cheap. Just buy the Samsung to start with, or at least the more expensive OWC brand (not NuRAM), and consider limiting yourself to 12 GB to have the safest configuration on your mission critical machine.
For whatever one dumb old man's opinion is worth.
If you follow the Apple Support discussions, you would find a mounting body of evidence from a mounting number of service issues that there is something wrong with whatever RAM is being used for the OWC NuRAM 4x4GB (16GB total) installations.
People who are sending it back and getting Hynix and Samsung RAM (even if it is from OWC) are not having the spontaneous shutdowns.
There is other anecdotal evidence that makes it seem possible that stepping down to 12GB solves the problem with NuRAM OWC modules. However, IMHO, not enough people have reported this, yet, to be taken as Gospel. I do believe that enough people have reported back to take it as Gospel that the cheapest OWC modules called NuRAM are causing a problem when used as 4x4GB.
In my case, I decided not to take any chances, and went from 16 GB of NuRAM down to 12 GB of Samsung and I have not had any more shutdowns.
I have to say that OWC (macsales.com) were very easy to deal with and immediately issued an RMA for the NuRAM and shipped the Samsung memory quickly and without a lot of effort on my part, although I had to eat the $10.70 shipping expense of sending it back to them. You might not even have to pay shipping back, now that there are a couple of long threads at Apple Support talking about how it's rather obviously OWC NuRAM that is causing the biggest problem.
A couple of people responding in the Apple Support threads were Apple employees, and I am thereby certain that it is not a mainboard or firmware problem. It is a RAM problem.
About Crucial: Be careful. Their online automatic configuration routine did not work correctly for me and they sent me RAM that would not even allow my iMac to start. The chip configuration was just wrong, and there's no way around it.
And Crucial compounded the issue by not responding to my request for an RMA for two weeks. From here on, I do not think I will have any reason to buy anything for my Apple products from Crucial.
Bottom line is you can trust OWC, but I would not buy NuRAM from them. Don't be too cheap. Just buy the Samsung to start with, or at least the more expensive OWC brand (not NuRAM), and consider limiting yourself to 12 GB to have the safest configuration on your mission critical machine.
For whatever one dumb old man's opinion is worth.
Your opinion is worth alot, thanks alot for taking the time to write that. And judging by this post and others I highly doubt you're dumb. Or old.
The first spontaneous shutdown was about a week after installation, as I began tweaking the Parallels virtual machine.
For a while, I felt that it was only happening when Activity Monitor showed over 12 GB of RAM being used for one thing and another, but it started happening even when the virtual machine wasn't loaded and less than 6 GB of RAM being allocated to anything.
I sure hope you do not have the problem.
I have had 16GB installed for over 40 days. I use the machine at least 6 hours per day across any seven day period you can concoct. I even bought the two additional modules to move up to 16GB from fry's locally. Hmm..., I guess I am one of the fortunate ones as well. . .
Ditto. Have had 16GB 3x Hynix, 1x Samsung 4GB DDR3-1066 modules with ZERO problems. I'm getting shiny new DDR3-1333 chips this coming week.
I have this type of ram:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MX4C4M/ref=oss_product
OCZ Technology DDR3 PC3-10666 Value Series 4 GB SODIMM PC Memory OCZ3M13334G
And I'm getting the random shut-downs.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MX4C4M/ref=oss_product
OCZ Technology DDR3 PC3-10666 Value Series 4 GB SODIMM PC Memory OCZ3M13334G
And I'm getting the random shut-downs.
No issues with G. Skill RAM
I have an i7-870 and just added 2 x 4GB sticks of G.Skill RAM with no issues. Total RAM is now 12GB. I did move the 2 x2 GB sticks of OEM Samsung RAM to the bottom slots & added the 2 4GB sticks to the top slots. I got a great deal on black friday from Newegg.com. Price was less than 1/2 of any other RAM. I verified with G. Skill tech support that this RAM was the same timing, speed, etc before I bought it. It isn't "Apple certified" RAM sold by G. Skill, but it works fine. I have had it for 3 weeks with no issues. I didn't go to 16GB due to issues noted in this thread & also based on comments that going from 12 to 16GB didn't show a noticeable improvement.
I have noticed apps open faster & iPhoto doesn't sit & spin the gray pinwheel when I am looking thru my photos. We have over 30GB of photos loaded so the extra memory helps.
I have an i7-870 and just added 2 x 4GB sticks of G.Skill RAM with no issues. Total RAM is now 12GB. I did move the 2 x2 GB sticks of OEM Samsung RAM to the bottom slots & added the 2 4GB sticks to the top slots. I got a great deal on black friday from Newegg.com. Price was less than 1/2 of any other RAM. I verified with G. Skill tech support that this RAM was the same timing, speed, etc before I bought it. It isn't "Apple certified" RAM sold by G. Skill, but it works fine. I have had it for 3 weeks with no issues. I didn't go to 16GB due to issues noted in this thread & also based on comments that going from 12 to 16GB didn't show a noticeable improvement.
I have noticed apps open faster & iPhoto doesn't sit & spin the gray pinwheel when I am looking thru my photos. We have over 30GB of photos loaded so the extra memory helps.
Hey guys,
I'm about to spring for a 27" iMac, and I'm wondering about the harddrive options. I'm not a fan of paying more than is needed to Apple for something I can purchase cheaper and larger from other sources like OWC or Newegg. So here's my questions:
1) Can I run two SSD drives inside the computer by removing the standard HDD that comes with it?
2) If I don't purchase a SSD from Apple originally, can I add one later?
3) Would I be limited on SSD drive size if I did it after purchasing the computer?
What have folks found to reduce heat with the iMac? I have SMCFanControl on my MBP 17" and a double fan that it rests on. Is there similar setups for the iMac to try to prevent further problems down the road?
Thanks for the help,
Chris
I'm about to spring for a 27" iMac, and I'm wondering about the harddrive options. I'm not a fan of paying more than is needed to Apple for something I can purchase cheaper and larger from other sources like OWC or Newegg. So here's my questions:
1) Can I run two SSD drives inside the computer by removing the standard HDD that comes with it?
2) If I don't purchase a SSD from Apple originally, can I add one later?
3) Would I be limited on SSD drive size if I did it after purchasing the computer?
What have folks found to reduce heat with the iMac? I have SMCFanControl on my MBP 17" and a double fan that it rests on. Is there similar setups for the iMac to try to prevent further problems down the road?
Thanks for the help,
Chris
Well, after my mid-2008 iMac 24" 2.8GHz C2D had some problems back in the autumn, I started to wonder about a replacement. Applecare saved my bacon then, but it will run out next summer and as I'm using these machines as professional workstations (for a mix of web and Visual Studio/SQL Server development in BootCamp) I felt that I couldn't risk being without a main machine again.
So, tomorrow (with a little luck) I should be taking delivery of:
One iMac i7/2.93GHz with 4Gb ram, 256SSD+1Tb plus the funky mouse and trackpad option. Oh, and Applecare too.
I'll instantly up this to 12Gb (ram waiting at home) and pair it to the other thing I'm waiting for, which is a second 27" screen, albeit the Dell 27" as I got it for a little over half the price of the Apple 27" via two overlapping Dell promotions, and it's arguably just as good if not better than the Apple panel. So I've heard, anyway.
Is a dual 27" desktop excessive? Probably, but too much screen space is far better than too little.
I've also swapped out the 5400rpm HDD in my 2009 MBP for a 500Gb Seagate Momentus XT (with the hybrid SSD/HDD) which has been good so far. Oh, yeah, and to cap it all off, last week I got me a quad Xeon with 60Gb SSD boot, RAID 1 1Tb disc array and 250Gb scratch disc, as a development server. From Dell, please forgive me.
Photos soon
So, tomorrow (with a little luck) I should be taking delivery of:
One iMac i7/2.93GHz with 4Gb ram, 256SSD+1Tb plus the funky mouse and trackpad option. Oh, and Applecare too.
I'll instantly up this to 12Gb (ram waiting at home) and pair it to the other thing I'm waiting for, which is a second 27" screen, albeit the Dell 27" as I got it for a little over half the price of the Apple 27" via two overlapping Dell promotions, and it's arguably just as good if not better than the Apple panel. So I've heard, anyway.
Is a dual 27" desktop excessive? Probably, but too much screen space is far better than too little.
I've also swapped out the 5400rpm HDD in my 2009 MBP for a 500Gb Seagate Momentus XT (with the hybrid SSD/HDD) which has been good so far. Oh, yeah, and to cap it all off, last week I got me a quad Xeon with 60Gb SSD boot, RAID 1 1Tb disc array and 250Gb scratch disc, as a development server. From Dell, please forgive me.
Photos soon
Well, after my mid-2008 iMac 24" 2.8GHz C2D had some problems back in the autumn, I started to wonder about a replacement. Applecare saved my bacon then, but it will run out next summer and as I'm using these machines as professional workstations (for a mix of web and Visual Studio/SQL Server development in BootCamp) I felt that I couldn't risk being without a main machine again.
So, tomorrow (with a little luck) I should be taking delivery of:
One iMac i7/2.93GHz with 4Gb ram, 256SSD+1Tb plus the funky mouse and trackpad option. Oh, and Applecare too.
I'll instantly up this to 12Gb (ram waiting at home) and pair it to the other thing I'm waiting for, which is a second 27" screen, albeit the Dell 27" as I got it for a little over half the price of the Apple 27" via two overlapping Dell promotions, and it's arguably just as good if not better than the Apple panel. So I've heard, anyway.
Is a dual 27" desktop excessive? Probably, but too much screen space is far better than too little.
I've also swapped out the 5400rpm HDD in my 2009 MBP for a 500Gb Seagate Momentus XT (with the hybrid SSD/HDD) which has been good so far. Oh, yeah, and to cap it all off, last week I got me a quad Xeon with 60Gb SSD boot, RAID 1 1Tb disc array and 250Gb scratch disc, as a development server. From Dell, please forgive me.
Photos soon
You should of waited for Sandy Bridge. Your Core i7 will be slow in comparison for the same price.
Wife and I got ours 2 weeks ago. 2.9, solid state, and 8GB ram upgrade. Now if I can figure out how to xfer my itunes library from the 08 iMac over.
Wife and I got ours 2 weeks ago. 2.9, solid state, and 8GB ram upgrade. Now if I can figure out how to xfer my itunes library from the 08 iMac over.
If you're keeping your library in ~home/Music/iTunes, then you should just have to copy the entire iTunes folder over to your new Mac and it should be just fine.
Can those that edit AVCHD 1080 footage in iMovie and/or Adobe Premiere CS4 please tell me how easily your 27" imac edits it, plays it back, and then once outputted to whatever format, how it plays in Quicktime, as well? Is it jittery at all? Appear to skip frames here and there? Or does it play it silky smooth? I'd love to hear from as many folks as possible, as this is going to be my basis for upgrading to one from my MBP 17" or not. My MBP will do it, but it's jumpy, jittery, etc...my freakin' iphone plays youtube videos better than my MBP.
Your help is greatly appreciated. If you could let me know your basic setup, as well, that would be great.
Chris
Your help is greatly appreciated. If you could let me know your basic setup, as well, that would be great.
Chris
Well...
First 24 hours and it's a flier! 12Gb+i7+SSD makes for a very snappy machine.
The dual 27" displays take up a lot of desk space though....
First 24 hours and it's a flier! 12Gb+i7+SSD makes for a very snappy machine.
The dual 27" displays take up a lot of desk space though....
Largely because too many people have been having problems with third party ram when taken to 16Gb. Nobody reports any problems with 12Gb though - i.e. 2x4Gb + 2x2Gb - so, rather than throw away the 4Gb that the i7 came with and add 4x4Gb which might be problematic, I settled on keeping that 4Gb and adding 2x4Gb. And nice it is too
4x4 GB Samsung configuration? I have not seen any report so far of someone having the spontaneous shutdown problem with Samsung, or with 16 GB configured directly from Apple with either Samsung or Hynix.
There are three active threads in the Apple support forums. That's where I'm getting this information.
After disovering the cost/hassle of installing a larger harddrive and SSD aftermarket, I went ahead and got the 27" loaded from apple on everything but the ram. Apparently it's easier to install than the drives. Anybody on here edit AVCHD 720/60p and 1080/60p using Adobe Premiere CS4 with their iMac? I thought I was going to go back to using iMovie '11 but apparently it imports everything as 30p.
Chris
Chris