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corywoolf said:
Except most Pro Apps are not going to run natively on Mactel until mid '06. I doubt there will be Powerbook updates at MWSF, but it is a possibility. Not many graphic designers are going to want to put up with emulation when they could have a non emulated stable version running on a PB G4 for much less.


What is it that makes you believe the pro apps haven't already been ported as universal binaries?
 
Peace said:
What is it that makes you believe the pro apps haven't already been ported as universal binaries?

True - the companies have had essentially 6 months to work on porting, since everything was announced at WWDC... not exactly a short amount of time...
 
crees! said:
And when the PB's get updated do you complain then that yours isn't as good? No, it's called computer evolution. Deal or don't own one.
WTF is this supposed to mean? I NEVER expect a top-of-the-line computer line to be overtaken by a run-of-the-mill line within one generation. This should never happen, and in the PC world it just doesn't happen. Yes computer evolution is expected to occur, and no I don't complain when my PB gets outdated by another newer PB, because that's life. However, I should never see a recently updated PB be overtaken by the very next update of iBooks. That is just pure bs, and would make more then just a few professionals livid. You think that the PB fanbois are whiners now? Wait until something like this happens... these forums will crash because the complaints will overload the server.
 
1984 said:
So the iBooks will be better than the PowerBooks in some ways for a few months. I don't see what the problem is.

exactly! it's about what will sell in volume. lower cost = increased sales. the ibook has always been the low-end laptop and always will be. no unified line. so what if it's got a better processor. there will be things about it that cant touch the powerbook, most importantly screen size and resolution.

personally i dont understand the constant demand for updating the powerbook. it was recently revealed that the G5 was NEVER destined for a laptop. apple has been doing the best it can with the G4 and keeping pb "good enough" to sell.

unfortunately what might happen is the intel ibook will be limited in some way just to make the future powerbooks look that much better when they do finally come out in the summer.
 
~Shard~ said:
Please explain in detail why the iBooks would cost more, I don't see where you're getting that from.
Wasn't it worked out that these Yonah chips will be about 4 times as expensive as a G4? It would seem to me it's only possible in a powerbook at first that way. If I happen to be talking crap, just forget this post and my last one, but I thought we'd been over prices for these chips.
 
Randall said:
WTF is this supposed to mean? I NEVER expect a top-of-the-line computer line to be overtaken by a run-of-the-mill line within one generation. This should never happen, and in the PC world it just doesn't happen. Yes computer evolution is expected to occur, and no I don't complain when my PB gets outdated by another newer PB, because that's life. However, I should never see a recently updated PB be overtaken by the very next update of iBooks. That is just pure bs, and would make more then just a few professionals livid. You think that the PB fanbois are whiners now? Wait until something like this happens... these forums will crash because the complaints will overload the server.

When a transition like the Intel/Apple transition takes place one should expect things to overlap temporarily.
 
it is just so much fun to go through these posts guys.

There are sooo many Steve Jobs here at MacRumors.

I am just another one and I just wish Apple had dropped that powerpc crap a long time ago. That's what Steve should have done.
Oh well, now that IT IS DONE, who cares whether the iBook or PB gets it first, believe me Steve could not care less about a couple of whiners PB owners !!!
 
corywoolf said:
Except most Pro Apps are not going to run natively on Mactel until mid '06. I doubt there will be Powerbook updates at MWSF, but it is a possibility. Not many graphic designers are going to want to put up with emulation when they could have a non emulated stable version running on a PB G4 for much less.
Yes I don't expect Adobe CS to be ready for intel, because they already went on record saying that CS3 will be the first x86 for mac suite. But what makes you think that the majority of the others won't be ready for x86? Did you not see the Wolfram Research guys at MWDC '05 stand up and say that it was a piece of cake to port to x86? Not that I believe them, but basically they are ready for the switch. I have a feeling that most pro apps may be ready sooner then expected (at least the Xcode ones) not to mention the open source ones, which already have Linux (x86) native versions that can easily run on OS X86.
 
Intel will help macs catch up to peecees with raw speed, but what's going convince apple to upgrade graphics cards, or at least have an option? :rolleyes:
 
You guys can't honestly expect an intel ibook with Yonah dual core in it can you? The prices would be compairable to a Powerbook in that case. If you're looking for an Intel iBook at MWSF '06 then look for an "old" single core Dothan based one. :p

epepper9 said:
Intel will help macs catch up to peecees with raw speed, but what's going convince apple to upgrade graphics cards, or at least have an option? :rolleyes:
With x86 comes choices. I believe that a much wider range of graphics cards will be available.
 
Randall said:
You guys can't honestly expect an intel ibook with Yonah dual core in it can you? The prices would be compairable to a Powerbook in that case. If you're looking for an Intel iBook at MWSF '06 then look for an "old" single core Dothan based one. :p

BINGO!
 
Randall said:
You guys can't honestly expect an intel ibook with Yonah dual core in it can you? The prices would be compairable to a Powerbook in that case. If you're looking for an Intel iBook at MWSF '06 then look for an "old" single core Dothan based one. :p
Yeah, just like I said before and a couple of people didn't understand what I meant. I like the way you think, Randall.
 
SiliconAddict said:
I want my new and improved PowerBook now damn it! NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW! I've been waiting 3 years. If I have to wait another 4 months I'm going to go on a homicidal rampage!
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:eek: :(

Yah yah I know....
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No more drugs for this guy :p
 
Now for the final possible combination

The final combination remaining is:

PowerMac & PowerBook!

Yay! Every possible combination of future 'Intel Macs' have now been used!
 
xy14 said:
The final combination remaining is: PowerMac & PowerBook!
Yay! Every possible combination of future 'Intel Macs' have now been used!
You forgot Xserve.

How about an "Apple to release Itanium Xserve in January" rumour?
 
Randall said:
WTF is this supposed to mean? I NEVER expect a top-of-the-line computer line to be overtaken by a run-of-the-mill line within one generation. This should never happen, and in the PC world it just doesn't happen.
Like Peace mentioned, when is the last time in the PC world you saw a transition of processors like this?!?!?!
 
cr2sh said:
Apple has really fallen behind with these things, the core of the current design has been used since May, 2001!

I mean EVERY other line-up has been COMPLETELY CHANGED TWICE, since this design came out... yet the iBook remains mostly the same.

My old Dell laptop, a Latitude CPi, ran XP at a blazing 300mhz, with 128 megs of ram. It had a 13.3" screen, and was roughly the same size as the laptop that I'm using right now, almost 7 years after the Dell was purchased.

In fact, as far as I'm concerned, the dell was the better computer. It felt more rugged and sturdy than the Samsung I'm on now.

But back to speculation...
I think it would be really nice to see a ProBook, iBook, and NoteBook, all with flash supliment drives. The ProBook being the powerhouse of the lineup, the iBook being a consumer end notebook and the NoteBook being a college-oriented notebook with an uber long battery life and a flash drive to prolong battery life, and also handle a lot of the disk I/O so the HDD doesn't die as easily.
 
Randall said:
If you're looking for an Intel iBook at MWSF '06 then look for an "old" single core Dothan based one. :p

Didn't Apple tell developers to code for Dothan anyway?;)

well, it's my 1st post. Hi guys :)
 
aegisdesign said:
Facts? This is MacRumors.com.

Everything is speculation. Apple haven't said they'll be using any processor.

Jobs "And I would like to introduce out newest PowerBook. It's the most revolutionary PowerBook ever. In fact, it's so revolutionary, it won't even use a processor!"

:D
 
aristobrat said:
Like Peace mentioned, when is the last time in the PC world you saw a transition of processors like this?!?!?!
True, but an architecture transition doesn't excuse the fact that you should get what you pay for. At no point in time should a lower end machine be better then the same generation of higher end machine. Unless of course you're trying to piss off all of your high end customers. A business model like that would defy all logic, no matter how breif a time. I believe that if we see iBook go intel, we must see the Powerbook do so as well.
 
Come on!!


This is want i need, then i'll get the iBook intel, iPod Shuffle and 5g iPod. So now after my last day of school i just have to wait!
 
I think it's pretty much official. All of these except the shuffle have been speculated to death, and the shuufle has been speculated for a little bit. I think all we aren't sure about is whether or not the iBook will come with a black option.
 
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