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Hi

Does anyone know if this is upgradable with the same slot near the power jack ?

Is there a simple definitive statement regarding what is needed for it to take it up to 16GB .

Thanks
 
Hi

Does anyone know if this is upgradable with the same slot near the power jack ?

Is there a simple definitive statement regarding what is needed for it to take it up to 16GB .

Thanks

A quick visit to the official iMac 5K specs page says that both the low-end and the high-end iMac models (like all 27" iMacs) have user accessible RAM slots, so yes, the RAM is upgradeable.

http://www.apple.com/imac-with-retina/specs/

It needs to be 1600Mhz, unbuffered, nonparity, 204-pin. It's not mentioned, but it should also be low-voltage (1.35V or supporting both 1.35V and 1.5V)
You can easily order this from a lot of RAM manufacturers.
You can combine it with the RAM already installed on your Mac or replace it completely for 16, 24 or 32Gb RAM.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT1423
 
A quick visit to the official iMac 5K specs page says that both the low-end and the high-end iMac models (like all 27" iMacs) have user accessible RAM slots, so yes, the RAM is upgradeable.

http://www.apple.com/imac-with-retina/specs/

It needs to be 1600Mhz, unbuffered, nonparity, 204-pin. It's not mentioned, but it should also be low-voltage (1.35V or supporting both 1.35V and 1.5V)
You can easily order this from a lot of RAM manufacturers.
You can combine it with the RAM already installed on your Mac or replace it completely for 16, 24 or 32Gb RAM.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT1423

Note it has to be SO-DIMMs, DDR3, PC12800 (= 1600 MHz x 2 x 4 bytes per clock), CL11.

You could try shorter CAS latency (e.g. CL9) and faster clocks (e.g. 1866 MHz), but no guarantees.


Besides Crucial, Corsair is also selling "Mac qualified RAM".
 
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I just got a new iMac 5k two days ago. Yesterday I walked into MicroCenter and bought 32 GB of memory for under $200. Price tag shows $144.99, but MicroCenter had a sale for $99.

The whole process to upgrade took literally 2 minutes.
 

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I just got a new iMac 5k two days ago. Yesterday I walked into MicroCenter and bought 32 GB of memory for under $200. Price tag shows $144.99, but MicroCenter had a sale for $99.

The whole process to upgrade took literally 2 minutes.

I looked up the one you purchased at it says its "CL9". I see the one for $129 which is "CL11". But the post from "loekf", says it should be CL11, but how's it working for you?
 
I looked up the one you purchased at it says its "CL9". I see the one for $129 which is "CL11". But the post from "loekf", says it should be CL11, but how's it working for you?

this is the kit you normally find on the Crucial website:

http://eu.crucial.com/eur/en/imac-(retina-5k,-27-inch,-late-2014)/CT6313719

I have two of these in my 5k iMac.

Looks like you have this one:

http://eu.crucial.com/eur/en/ct2c8g3s1339mceu#reviewDetails

which is CL9.

I think Apple's official specs are CL11. CL9 *could* give you a 1-2% performance gain for some tasks, but no guarantees. The higher the clock speeds for memory these days, the less relevant CAS latency is.

You also have to careful if you add faster (CL10, CL9) RAM to the two already placed modules by Apple, which are CL11. Your iMac might decide to downgrade your RAM (e.g. to 1333 MHz).
 
I bought the one from Amazon that is the CL11 version after using the Crucial website to determine which memory was compatible. So far it has been working great, ran a few memory tests and it passed all. No crashes or waking up from sleep issues I've read about as well. I almost bought the CL9 from Microcenter before, because I noticed it was priced lower, but now glad I did not.
 
So the ones at Amazon do not match the part number that Crucial says:
CT6313736
As posted elsewhere, my sleep wake feature does not work and its been linked to the Amazon chips.

Has anyone used the correct chips?
 
Does the RAM have to match? For example, if theres 4 slots, can I put in a 2GB, 4GB, and an 8GB?

Are there any issues using different sized RAM?
 
So the ones at Amazon do not match the part number that Crucial says:
CT6313736
As posted elsewhere, my sleep wake feature does not work and its been linked to the Amazon chips.

Has anyone used the correct chips?

I have two CT6313719 kits (so 4 x 8 GB) in my 5k iMac. Works great. I can't find the number you mentioned on Crucial's website, but on Amazon.com I can. This kit can be found when you use the search tool on Crucial's website. The specs for this other kit on Amazon.com looks similar (1.35 V PC12800 1600 MHz SO-DIMM CL11).
 
Does the RAM have to match? For example, if theres 4 slots, can I put in a 2GB, 4GB, and an 8GB?

Are there any issues using different sized RAM?

You have to take into account that Intel CPUs (and AMD's as well) prefers to access two memory slots in parallel (interleaving). Suppose if you have 4 slots, let's say A, B, C and D. If you put a 2 GB in A, a 4 GB in B and 8 GB in C.. the CPU will access the banks indivually and you at least will get a performance hit.

It's preferred to have the same size, manufacturer in two slots next to each other, so e.g:

A - 4 GB (Apple puts it here by default)
B - 4 GB (Apple puts it here by default)
C - 8 GB (brand XX)
D - 8 GB (brand XX)
 
You have to take into account that Intel CPUs (and AMD's as well) prefers to access two memory slots in parallel (interleaving). Suppose if you have 4 slots, let's say A, B, C and D. If you put a 2 GB in A, a 4 GB in B and 8 GB in C.. the CPU will access the banks indivually and you at least will get a performance hit.

It's preferred to have the same size, manufacturer in two slots next to each other, so e.g:

A - 4 GB (Apple puts it here by default)
B - 4 GB (Apple puts it here by default)
C - 8 GB (brand XX)
D - 8 GB (brand XX)

But is it ok to fill just 3 slots, say 3x8GB?
 
But is it ok to fill just 3 slots, say 3x8GB?

You also will get a performance hit, of 5-10%, because memory is not accessed via interleaving (also called dual-channel). Not sure how the memory controller works, but maybe the two upper slots (where Apple puts the two 4 GB modules by default) are accessed interleaved and the single 8 GB module is accessed in a single-channel way.

You will get a hit depending on where the memory is mapped in the address space.
 
I have two CT6313719 kits (so 4 x 8 GB) in my 5k iMac. Works great. I can't find the number you mentioned on Crucial's website, but on Amazon.com I can. This kit can be found when you use the search tool on Crucial's website. The specs for this other kit on Amazon.com looks similar (1.35 V PC12800 1600 MHz SO-DIMM CL11).

Does your sleep function work. These chips from amazon cause issues whereby my unit sleeps and never wakes up.
 
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Those of you who went with a lower CL upgrade stick, did you remove the apple memory in slot a and out the lower CL stick there? I assume slot A is closest to the CPU (would be used first).
 
Lets be clear, the reports of wake issues are from people who bought CL11. You should not really use memory not designed for your device.

For me, I also don't want added memory to cause any hardware issue. I was at the Crucial site and there are many threads about this wake problem. Each time, Crucial acts like its news to them wiling, of course to exchange, but not willing to figure out whats going on. Posts back to the beginning of the year.

One poster indicated that the problem may be, that Apple memory chips (Samsung I believe) don't behave well with other chips.
 
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