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It's ugly. There's not much to it. And I really do think it lost it's "cool" factor that the iMac G4 did. It's nothing more than everything crammed into an Apple Display. I don't like it at all. And another thing that makes me angry (and I don't really know why) is that there's no FireWire 800. You think they could've at least put one FW800 port on there, but they didn't. Oh well, maybe in the future.

But yea, to me, the iMac G5 is cheasy and lame. It looks like crap with the big white space with the gray apple on it underneath it (kinda looks like a toy) and the back is just hideous, too, with the huge 'iMac' on the back.

I feel Apple dropped the ball on this one. Let's hope for improvements.
 
nagromme said:
To the handful who say this has been done before. A link, please? Because it really hasn't. Find me an all-in-one that's even remotely so thin and elegant.

And yes, the old swingarm G4 was cool too--a classic! :) But now you can put a VESA arm on this one anyway (or simply rotate the stand on your desk--the new iMac's lighter after all).

BTW while I'm thinking of it... I like the new game bundle better. Marble Blast is a great game, and Nanousaur II looks great as well. Tony Hawk and Deimos Rising weren't much to offer, but these are actually good games!

I dont have a link but I do have an HP all in one LCD/computer and it is touch screen. And it looks to be about the same thickness.

Frump.
 
aswitcher said:
I would have been quite impressed if they had done a limited edition 20" with 128 meg vram, 1 gig ram, and with a metal not a white shell, for the 20th anniversary of the Mac.

Don't worry mate, the 20th anniversary item is yet to come!!

I wonder what it would be??

aussie_geek
 
nagromme said:
To the handful who say this has been done before. A link, please? Because it really hasn't. Find me an all-in-one that's even remotely so thin and elegant.

I'm not saying this has been done before. I'm just saying that anyone with an IQ above Bush's could think of putting a computer in a box. Nonetheless, I do acknowledge the fact that Apple managed to make it so small, even though this is just a reason to buy a PowerMac.
 
I waited for a silver version before buying an iPod, and will wait for an aluminum/silver iMac before planning any purchase of this new toy. And maybe that in the meanwhile either a smaller PowerMac will become available or, if I'm lucky, a G5 Powerbook too...
 
Graphics card

I like the look. I like the possibility of a 250GB hard drive. BUT ... the price of Apple-installed 2 GB RAM ... and the same graphics card as on my G4 iMac. It won't feel like progress.

But then do we really need anything better than a NVIDIA 5200? I don't play computer games much. I iLife and work. But what will I think in a year's time? Does anyone know?
 
Oops! Just knocked over my new iMac!

Someone else might already have mentioned this, but it looks like it would be so easy to knock over! Think about when you're trying to put those USB cables in - CLANG!!!
I thought the same about new pro displays. That base looks way to small.

Other than that, i think it looks cool. They had to do something different to the lampstand iMac (which, personally, i think will always be known as the most beautiful Mac ever made), just to spark interest. Where else can they go? The only realistic step forward is holographic displays that are projected into midair (like in minority report) and that's years away. C'mon guys, give Apple some credit!
 
Warbrain said:
It's ugly. There's not much to it. And I really do think it lost it's "cool" factor that the iMac G4 did.

I don't think so. For me the new iMac looks perfect. As I said, the 20" is more balanced, but the 17" looks really good as well, and wait for some real pictures. Somehow Apple manages it that their pics don't look as good as the ones from users.
 
Adjustability

I remember that some IT departments could not buy the original iMac because it didn't comply with EU Health and Safety regulations because it wasn't properly adjustable. The second generation iMac addressed this with the arm. Is the new iMac at all adjustable? If not, does anyone know what the law is regarding adjustment and will this mean it is technically illegal in the EU?
 
Oh, man am I jealous! LOL
They look so awesome! And the power... they're only $100 cheaper than my BTO eMac! I should have waited... :(

Oh well, that said, they are some great-looking machines.
 
rendezvouscp said:
Beautiful. I'm glad it's finally here, and the design makes sense. I'm going to miss the whole rotation thing though.
–Chase

I'm wit you. I really like it! :)
 
Gromit said:
I remember that some IT departments could not buy the original iMac because it didn't comply with EU Health and Safety regulations because it wasn't properly adjustable. The second generation iMac addressed this with the arm. Is the new iMac at all adjustable? If not, does anyone know what the law is regarding adjustment and will this mean it is technically illegal in the EU?

See pic, but have a little patience.
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old airport?

is it just me... but in the middle left of the "minus back" picture. the slot is of a airport sans extreme... you know, the ones going for 150 bucks on ebay now since they were discontinued....

i downloaded the highres pres photo from: http://www.apple.com/pr/photos/imacflat/04imac.html

and walla. it is an old airport card... so does this mean apple is going to start manufacturing these again?

my eyes may be deceiving me.... must check airportextreme card in g5 at home after work... since i recall the old cards had the antenna port in the middle...

and if the stand is removable... i now have a new portable gigging machine!

jasonbuss
foundationdeckstands.com
 
Great design, great marketing. With reports of lots of students tempted to switch over to Macs thanks to the iPod, this has the possibility of really taking off. If only it had come out 2 week earlier, it could have been a really big hit for back-to-school. But I am impressed

And the eMac is still available on the Apple Store for people who can't pay that much for a computer. So everyone should be happy.

I hate to bring this up (it didn't look like anyone else did)—is this the only new thing announced?? It seems like the "One More Thing" was actually just "One Thing." :)
 
Belly-laughs said:
Did you include the iMac G4s monitor volume as well? Otherwise one could argue that the new iMac uses 0 cubic inches.

The figures are unclear, but I figured the volume based on the formula of (2/3)(pi)(r^3) for a hemisphere.

As for G5 in a small unit, I seem to remember that in the discussion that went on you argued that they´d have to clock it down to 1,4GHz and a that the G4 at that speed would outperform the G5. Also, even though they´ve cut the bus speed to 600MHz, it´s still higher than the 400MHz bus supported by the not yet seen Freescale G4.

Yes, I did originally claim that, but I also clarified that the removal or simplification of other systems might mitigate the heat. Most of that was aimed at the keeping of a system in the dome enclosure (which didn't happen) or putting it in a laptop (which also didn't happen). This is a different product with a purpose-built cooling system.

That being said, I'm not surprised that Apple managed to put a G5 in a system, because they did what I said would have to be done for it to happen. I'm just a little disappointed that they would cripple the few advantages that it does have over the G4 in order to cram it in.

Also, I still want one. :D

I think it´s safe to say that Apple has come out with a product that not even you would have thought possible.

No, I thought it was possible, and anyone who believes otherwise didn't understand what I was saying. I said that certain things were likely impossible, which has been proven at least somewhat true. Apple made a consumer G5 machine and did it reasonably economically, but had to make cuts and workarounds.

I still think it's a good machine, though. It's just not as amazing as it could have been.
 
MacFan26 said:
Sure, it['s] not $599 with instant rebate! But people buying that aren't going to look at Apple to begin with.
and apple is marketing these to people who have already shelled out 300 bones for an mp3 player.
 
JustinChaloner said:
Someone else might already have mentioned this, but it looks like it would be so easy to knock over! ... I thought the same about new pro displays. That base looks way to small.

I thought the same thing. Nobody seems to think it's a problem with the pro displays in person, so I guess it's just an illusion... but they do LOOK tippy.
 
nagromme said:
I thought the same thing. Nobody seems to think it's a problem with the pro displays in person, so I guess it's just an illusion... but they do LOOK tippy.

I guess they are just heavy enough to stand without problems.
 
autrefois said:
I hate to bring this up (it didn't look like anyone else did)—is this the only new thing announced?? It seems like the "One More Thing" was actually just "One Thing." :)

Unfortunatly, yes: nothing else was announced today. A 2 hours keynote and only one new product, but a great one. I hope it really takes off.
 
Gromit said:
I remember that some IT departments could not buy the original iMac because it didn't comply with EU Health and Safety regulations because it wasn't properly adjustable. The second generation iMac addressed this with the arm. Is the new iMac at all adjustable? If not, does anyone know what the law is regarding adjustment and will this mean it is technically illegal in the EU?
The machine is adjustable as shipped (and essentially infinitely adjustable if you go with a VESA bracket), but I don't see TCO 95 in the specs for this model. Maybe it does comply with the included stand, but testing wasn't completed brefore the specs were published?
 
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