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New iMac problems with World of Warcraft

Of course. With the stock 4GB the HD was constantly on the go in Wow, afterwards the HD is hardly accessed and the whole machine is smoother.
More RAM allows you to run vent. etc. in the background without impacting on your game.

RAM in any computer is like HP in a car; you still get from A to B with less HP but it's so much better to do it effortlessly... :D

Muppi said:
Did you notice any difference in performance?
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I too had a notable increase in performance (smoother experience may be better way to describe it) when I upgraded from my 4GB to 16GB. I think I somehow capped my game to 30fps, because it never goes over that, but it's silky smooth enough for me.
 
I have the i5 3.1, 4gb of RAM and the 6970 with 1GB.

I have done 10 and 25 man raids without an issue. The only time I see it drop below 50FPS (according to Control + R in game) is when there are a lot of those translucent mounts. Not the sparkle horse but some translucent bird that seem to be all the rage in my guild. At least, I think its a bird... *shrug*

Other than that, with the stock config mentioned above (and all the latest updates including the required 10.6.7 one that fixes some 3D gfx issues) I have not had a single problem with WoW. So I would not say that 12 or 16GB of RAM is required but I am sure it does not hurt performance.

I will pay attention to the HDD to see if its working OT as mentioned earlier in this thread.

I also do not have anything else running on the machine except Mumble.
 
WoW does not use more than 2GB of your system RAM... so unless you have a lot of other things running, it's hard to understand how going from 4GB to 16GB would make that much of a difference.
 
JustMe74 said:
WoW does not use more than 2GB of your system RAM... so unless you have a lot of other things running, it's hard to understand how going from 4GB to 16GB would make that much of a difference.
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Agreed, not to mention I have the 2GB video card. Like I said, ignorant. I can only express my opinion/experience/feel. Maybe it's placebo. Either way, happy.:p
 
I have played wow with 4gb and then upgraded to 16gb. I noticed no difference.

I also prefer to play wow in bootcamp as it not only runs better, it looks better too.
 
gregd33 said:
I have the i5 3.1, 4gb of RAM and the 6970 with 1GB.

I have done 10 and 25 man raids without an issue. The only time I see it drop below 50FPS (according to Control + R in game) is when there are a lot of those translucent mounts. Not the sparkle horse but some translucent bird that seem to be all the rage in my guild. At least, I think its a bird... *shrug*
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Could you please post your settings and also do a test where you go to Uldum and see if you notice any fps-decrease? I to have to problems in raids etc, ive caped my fps at 30 since i film certain bosses at 30fps and i _never_ go below 30 fps except in certain outside zones as ive written in a previous post.

What confuses me is the fact that people always brag like this: "ooh i can keep 60 fps even in large cities". Well yeah so can i buy why the hell is it dropping to half and studders when im visiting certain outside zones.

For instance, not noticable in the pvp-area of Tol Barad. Noticable while running out on the water behind the docks looking towards land in the quest-zone of Tol Barad but runs smooth everywhere else in that zone. Huge studders in Uldum(except when i look straight down, then it runs smooth).

Im gonna try disable addons etc tonight, maybe do a Update Combo for OS X (even tho it says its completely updated), play around with settings even more etc. I dont think this is a hardware issue, i believe it should be able to run smooth even in outside zones on my settings.
 
sinser said:
Do you play at native resolution ? What are your settings ?

Thanks.
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Yes.. Native resolution.

I will post settings tonight after work.

Again, I don't have issues in Raids. It doesnt stay at 60 fps, of course, but there is never a time when its not playable or stutters as many have described. What seems to cause me the most issue from an FPS standpoint is the translucent-type textures of certain mounts. This slowdown can occur in low-population areas too... just one or two of those mounts. It will drop my FPS down to 25-35 range with nothing else on screen. *shrug*

Anyway, I will post the settings later tonight...
 
Settings:

2560x1440 (wide)
Multisampling 1x
Vsync Enabled

Going from Textured Resolution to Ground clutter (left side only):

High
Trilinear
Enabled

Good
High
High

Right side - Shadow Quality to Particle Density:

Good
Good
Low
Good


Need more info than that? If so, let me know.

Hope it helps.
 
If you don't mind, what are your recommended settings when you either mouse over the actual settings or if you click the recommended tab at left.
I'm intrigued as to why you've gone triliniear instead of say x4 ansiotropic?

gregd33 said:
Settings:

2560x1440 (wide)
Multisampling 1x
Vsync Enabled

Going from Textured Resolution to Ground clutter (left side only):

High
Trilinear
Enabled

Good
High
High

Right side - Shadow Quality to Particle Density:

Good
Good
Low
Good


Need more info than that? If so, let me know.

Hope it helps.
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First column is my settings while the second value will be the WoW suggested selection... same rules apply (left side and then right).

High Fair
Trilinear Trilinear
Enabled Disabled

Good Fair
High Fair
High Fair

Right side - Shadow Quality to Particle Density:

Good Fair
Good Fair
Low Disabled
Good Fair

Seems Blizzard really wants me to have Fair graphics.

Is that helpful at all?
 
MythicFrost said:
Georgio do you have the 6970M 1GB or 2GB? And to anyone whose performance is fine under OS X, what do you have?
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I have the 2gb card. In OSX slider moved straight to ultra. AF to 8x. I leave AA at 1x due to the driver bug. I've moved shadows down one notch to whatever that is. All settings are ultra or high(because there isn't an ultra setting)

Under windows I run 8x AF and 4x AA with slider to ultra. Performance is good across the board.
 
I did have the 1GB 6970 and for me at least wow was a laggy mess in raids.

Under bootcamp it was pretty decent but the day after I installed wow in windows I got hacked and ended up nahked as jaybird with no gold and my bank cleared out, so I don't want to go down that route again.

My new iMac should be delivered Wednesday with a 2GB card so I'll see if that makes any difference then.

MythicFrost said:
Georgio do you have the 6970M 1GB or 2GB? And to anyone whose performance is fine under OS X, what do you have?
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Georgio said:
I did have the 1GB 6970 and for me at least wow was a laggy mess in raids.

Under bootcamp it was pretty decent but the day after I installed wow in windows I got hacked and ended up nahked as jaybird with no gold and my bank cleared out, so I don't want to go down that route again.

My new iMac should be delivered Wednesday with a 2GB card so I'll see if that makes any difference then.
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Interesting to see if it does.
 
Georgio said:
Wow is a massive resource hog, especially in OSX so more RAM is the smart move especially given how cheap it is atm.
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LOL. I five copies at one time on my iMac when I was multiboxing WOW. Four copies ran at 800x600 resolution with graphics set to minimal and sound off, the last ran either full screen or 1600x1200 with sound and most of the graphics options on.

This was all within 8g of memory.
 
archer75 said:
In OSX slider moved straight to ultra. AF to 8x. I leave AA at 1x due to the driver bug. I've moved shadows down one notch to whatever that is. All settings are ultra or high(because there isn't an ultra setting)

Under windows I run 8x AF and 4x AA with slider to ultra. Performance is good across the board.
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This is exactly why I gave up on pc gaming about 8 years ago. I got tired of mucking about with settings and worrying about whether I am getting 60 fps or 70 fps and whether I should get the new graphics card. You end up spending more time playing with settings and testing them than just enjoying the game.
 
Georgio said:
I did have the 1GB 6970 and for me at least wow was a laggy mess in raids.

Under bootcamp it was pretty decent but the day after I installed wow in windows I got hacked and ended up nahked as jaybird with no gold and my bank cleared out, so I don't want to go down that route again.

My new iMac should be delivered Wednesday with a 2GB card so I'll see if that makes any difference then.
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Mate, get the autendicator, I assume you do not have one? Since I got one i never got hacked.

Interested in how your new card with go, I thought of upgrading my iMac as I wow quite a bit, but I have everything maxed out compeletely on wow right now through my PC capped at 60FPS and do not think I could go back to lower settings :( and alas the new iMacs would not allow me to use the imac as a display as I do now with my gaming PC.
 
I don't have an authenticator at the moment; I did have one on my iphone but for some strange reason Bliz dropped the iphone as an authenticator device so I've been managing without.
In nearly 6 years of Wow on the Mac I've never been hacked until I installed in Win7 which says a lot about PC security.
To Blizz's credit I actually got all my gear/gold back within 20 mins of opening a ticket and talking to a GM; certainly better than some guildmates who have waited upto 2 weeks and then got their gear back with no enchants/gems.
I intend to only play Warcraft on OSX so we'll see.

I just had a call from my wife and the new iMac has just arrived, that's a day early. I hope that's a good sign and that I haven't been fobbed off with some cast-off...god I sound so cynical ;)

MH01 said:
Mate, get the autendicator, I assume you do not have one? Since I got one i never got hacked.

Interested in how your new card with go, I thought of upgrading my iMac as I wow quite a bit, but I have everything maxed out compeletely on wow right now through my PC capped at 60FPS and do not think I could go back to lower settings :( and alas the new iMacs would not allow me to use the imac as a display as I do now with my gaming PC.
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Georgio said:
I don't have an authenticator at the moment; I did have one on my iphone but for some strange reason Bliz dropped the iphone as an authenticator device so I've been managing without.
In nearly 6 years of Wow on the Mac I've never been hacked until I installed in Win7 which says a lot about PC security.
To Blizz's credit I actually got all my gear/gold back within 20 mins of opening a ticket and talking to a GM; certainly better than some guildmates who have waited upto 2 weeks and then got their gear back with no enchants/gems.
I intend to only play Warcraft on OSX so we'll see.

I just had a call from my wife and the new iMac has just arrived, that's a day early. I hope that's a good sign and that I haven't been fobbed off with some cast-off...god I sound so cynical ;)
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I strongly getting the Authendicaor from the online store, I have never been hacked while i had it :) its just extra security, though these days the GMs are alot better in restoring characters. 20 min is impressive. Also try window'd mode vers full screen, that did have a difference for me when I used it on os x way back.

Keep us updated on how the game runs on it..... and if you do not mind, can you crank it up to ultra on everything maxed out, and see what FPS you get. I need an excuse NOT to upgrade my 2010 iMac..... he he he
 
Georgio said:
I don't have an authenticator at the moment; I did have one on my iphone but for some strange reason Bliz dropped the iphone as an authenticator device so I've been managing without.
In nearly 6 years of Wow on the Mac I've never been hacked until I installed in Win7 which says a lot about PC security.
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You don't just install windows and get hacked. Like OSX, in windows 7 you have to authorize the installs. So if it was a keylogger on your system you had to give it permission to be there. You had to install it. And if you are going to authorize installs then OSX won't protect you.

That said, there are many ways to get your account hacked that has nothing to do with your computer.

You could log in from other locations such as internet cafe's, maybe work computers, maybe a friends computer that has a keylogger. If I was going to steal passwords I would intentionally install keyloggers at public locations. Maybe you logged in wirelessly and someone at that location pulled down your password, it's easy to do.

Most people tend to use the same usernames and passwords for other sites and games. Then a hacker has only to hack that site to get your info and then use that to log into other sites and games.
I give wow it's own username and password that I haven't used anywhere else and i've never been hacked. Even if I spend all day on porn sites and pirating software i've still never had a virus or other malware.
 
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