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New iMacs Still Coming Before Holidays?

dwardin9 said:
I feel that mid to late November is an optimal time for a spec bump for the iMac and macmini. If you wait for Macworld you will see the rest of the cinema displays updated as well as the macpro. The 17'' macbook will soon follow in february. The main focus for Macworld is Snow Leopard. This is Apples baby and they want to sell it and sell it hard. They can Vista bash all they want but Macworld is put up or shut up time. Steve knows it and they are going to crank it out for a spring release time period.

End rant/
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I disagree. Macworld is targeted the consumers, and the fact is most consumers couldn't care less about all the underlying tech in Snow Leopard. They'd be far more interested to hear about the revamped 17'' MacBook Pro and the new and improved iMac. I think any Snow Leopard news will be at WWDC, likely weeks before the OS is actually deployed.
 
ryan.stewie said:
god, you are all a bunch of whiners. Who cares about firewire, its dying. Most cameras/HDD's now use USB and if you have one that doesn't get an adapter, ITS JUST FIREWIRE, ITS NOT A DEAL BREAKER!
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I care about firewire. My DV-cam is FW, my hard drives are FW, my scanner i FW. The USB->FW adapters you are referring to is windows only and has really bad performance.
 
I have the early '08 model iMac,

intel core 2 duo, with the ATI GPU, right before the penryns came out.

Will I be able to run snow leopard without any problems?
 
palmerc2 said:
I have the early '08 model iMac,

intel core 2 duo, with the ATI GPU, right before the penryns came out.

Will I be able to run snow leopard without any problems?
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You should be able to run Snow Leopard just fine. Any Intel computer running Leopard (and nearly all Intel computers can run it) should have little trouble with Snow Leopard, considering that the latter is actually designed to take full advantage of the Intel processors.
 
dolphin842 said:
^^^^^
Just to clear up any latent confusion that may result, any Intel Mac can run Leopard.
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Hmmm... the first gen intel macs were Intel core duos and not able to run 64 bit. Isn't Snow Leopard 64 bit only, or will it run nevertheless, but with limitations?
 
The earlier message I replied to suggested that some Intel Macs may not be able to run Leopard (the current version, 10.5), which is not the case, so I wanted to clear that up by saying that any Intel Mac can run Leopard. As for Snow Leopard, we don't know the requirements for sure. While Snow Leopard is touted as 'full 64-bit,' I don't think that is meant to be taken as '64-bit only,' just that all the underlying systems, frameworks, etc, are 64-bit whereas they weren't before. I have an original Core Duo iMac myself, so I'll be watching developments just as much as anyone :)
 
sticking with 800

I feel like since apple uses both 800 and 400 on imacs they will only include the 800. It's too big of a leap from imac to macpro. Macbook/pro it's not as big.

..thats what I think.
 
Man I hope these updates comes soon........I am really excited to buy my first iMac computer....... i hope they upgrade the Processor Speed, HDD, add more RAM maybe up to 8GB's.......
 
I don't think the imac will loose it's firewire port. It's more a MBP like Desktop than a MB like one.
 
Dave187 said:
I don't think the imac will loose it's firewire port. It's more a MBP like Desktop than a MB like one.
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I'd bet you're right. There's a lot more room to add ports on an iMac versus a MacBook, so that won't be as much of an issue. I think a lot of people are whining beyond belief about the MacBook not having it. I mean it's as if some people are making up peripherals just to whine. "MY FLASH DRIVE USES FIREWWIRE!!!" Um...no it doesn't.

With USB 3 on the verge of being released/finalized next year, I see less and less the point for firewire. I think there should be an option for it, but it took PC makers FOREVER to adopt it as a standard component, which is a major reason most stuff prefers USB.
 
Normally I'd be excited by this news. Our day to day G5 2.1 is feeling old but if the laptops are anything to go by ... who cares? Big price increases in Europe, no firewire. It kills it off for me entirely. I chose FW for my DV cam and HD's because they're intrinsically Mac and are better. I even paid more for them than the USB ones! And now Apple says forget about it .... buy some others. Just to be in the exact same position. So much for it's green credentials. Supporting products, extending the lives of the HD's etc we already have is green.
 
I'll say it now, if there's no firewire 400 on the new iMac then I'm selling up and building a Hackintosh (or maybe even head back to Windows). Omitting Firewire basically kills my upgrade path for any video work so there's no point buying Apple hardware.
 
vaizki said:
It's not mac compatible and the fact that they offer separate NTSC and PAL versions makes it sound very suspicious to me.. :eek:

Not to mention that it's impossible to gain the sustained transfer rates of Firewire if there's USB in between.
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This adapter only supports standard resoulution recordings. It cannot be used to transfer high definition (HDV) content recorded on MiniDV tapes. Some camcorders are able to downscale the content in this case, but you will be limited to standard PAL/NTSC resolution.

So even if you are willing to use Windows for the transfer it is not a solution for the best cameras.

Christian
 
fuziwuzi said:
they might be switching solely to nvidia GPUs, as i am unsure that amd/ati support cuda instructions as yet. and cuda instructions may be needed for OpenCL in 10.6
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There will be OpenCL support for ATI chipsets. ATI/AMD has announced this in the public. They have "stream" which is very similar to cuda, OpenCL will replace vendor specific solutions for GPU based computing.

I wonder if there will be OpenCL on Intel chipsets, they still sell the low end MB with GMA X3100 and the MacMini that even has a GMA950.

Christian
 
Exterior design updates

I am predicting that:

1.
The keyboards will be "updated" to feature black keys. That will go much better with the look of the beautiful iMac cabinet.

2.
The stand (foot) on the iMac cabinet will also be redesigned to look like the one on the new 24" ACD.

3.
And maybe, just maybe, they'll have yet another shot at trying to design a mouse that most people will actualy like to use - IMO, Apple are incredibly lousy at designing mice.
 
If apple removed firewire from the iMac it would be a travesty. It would essentially mean that Apple considered any form of video editing to be a PRO only activity.

Forget those cute home animal and christmas movies etc... NOPE - its banned on macbooks and iMacs.

I would say that over 95% of consumer camcorders in the market place and in peoples home use the standard FW400 connection, with some using USB for still image shots.

iMovie on the macbook without a FW400 connection is useless, as people keep on saying that they cant get it to import video from their camcorders via USB (probably as the USB is for single shot mode!)

That makes iDVD a little less useful as well.

There is no way most average consumers are going to stump up the extra money *a considerable amount too* to jump to the pro models.

Also if apple does remove it from the iMac, it proves one thing for sure - they ignore their customers and spit in their faces.

If I had bought a new macbook without realising the loss of the FW400 port first, and then subsequently found iMovie to be uselss, I would be asking for a refund or compensation for shipping a useless iLife suite claiming it could edit movies ... with no ability to connect to my camcorder.. thats fraud.

OR stick a huge warning on the box of the macbook..

"WARNING - This computer can not connect to standard Camcorder interfaces known as ilink, IEEE1394 or Firewire. Video editing software supplied (iMovie and iDVD) is therefore useless."
 
Will it ship with keyboards with black keycaps and black mightymice with an aluminum scroll ball?

Actually, I hope they replace the mighty mouse, i hate that thing.
 
ryan.stewie said:
i wish you'se would all stop screaming at me:

http://usbfirewire.com/uadapters.html
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Have you bothered to read the specification at all? It says clearly that is ONLY works with Windows XP. Not Mac OS or even Windows Vista for that matter, it also says that it is only supported on very few cameras and if that's not enough for you, it's not likely to be a viable solution as USB simply does NOT have the effective and unstalled bandwidth of a Firewire connection among other things which are also important for realtime video-editing. In this case it's probably even worse considering that this seems to be USB1. As you (should) know USB1 provides 12 Mb/s bandwidth as opposed to at least 400Mb/s for Firewire: a difference of more than thirtyfold.

Learn to know the matter before you give 'advice' to people who, obviously, know the matter better than you do!
 
flottenheimer said:
I am predicting that:

1.
The keyboards will be "updated" to feature black keys. That will go much better with the look of the beautiful iMac cabinet.

2.
The stand (foot) on the iMac cabinet will also be redesigned to look like the one on the new 24" ACD.

3.
And maybe, just maybe, they'll have yet another shot at trying to design a mouse that most people will actualy like to use - IMO, Apple are incredibly lousy at designing mice.
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Agreed on all points (did't notice the 24" ACD stand was different). Black keyboard would be awesome. Personally, I'd love it if they ditched the mouse and gave you a glass trackpad instead.

Here's what the mighty mouse can do:
- left-click
- right-click (awkward because you need to lift your left finger)
- 2D scrolling
- Exposé (squeeze)
- Dashboard (press on the scroll ball)
- move pointer (terrible by default, but can be fixed by software)
- needs regular cleaning on the bottom to keep working

Here's what the glass trackpads can so:
- left-click
- right-click (2 finger tap or hot corner)
- 2D scrolling (2 finger dragging)
- Exposé, all windows (4 finger swipe down)
- Exposé, desktop (4 finger swipe up)
- Application switcher (4 finger swipe sideways)
- next, previous (3 finger swipe sideways)
- rotate (2 ginger rotate)
- zoom (2 finger pinch)
- move pointer (fast and pixel precise, the Apple software for them is great)
- nu underside cleaning necessary.


People who want/need a real mouse have bought non-Apple mice before. Microsoft Mice have nice Mac drivers, Logitech dropped the ball lately. But you can costumize it with apps like USB Overdrive or Steermouse.


I'd love to see a new bluetooth keyboard with black keys, a matching numeric keypad that magnetically attaches to the main keyboard, and a matching glass trackpad that I can snap on either to the side or the bottom of the keyboard.

Hint to Apple engeneers: A trackpad is much thinner than a mouse. :p
 
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