New Intel SSD X25M Gen2 almost here

MikhailT said:
I like how none of those stores have any detailed info on the speed.
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I would guess since it's still an X25-M the specs would be similar to previously released versions. The SSDSA2MH160G2C1 is listed in Intel's site in the same family as the existing X25-Ms.
 
For now, the only known difference between the old gen X25-M's and the new ones are the following:

1. 34nm NAND flash instead of 40nm NAND flash (old version).
2. Lower cost per GB.

It is possible that they will have improved sequential write as that is relatively low at 70mb/s although it really doesn't matter.

I would say that they improved upon the random read/write again and brought it closer to the x25-E.
 
I'm guessing its these silver colored ones? Thats what we have available under the channel information but its scant. Not word on pricing (although it looks like insiders already got that covered).

I can't help but drool. Hopefully if my x25-m dies again i'll ask for an upgrade to one of these puppies. 160 Gb flavor please :)
 

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not to hijack the thread or anything but, does slc even matter anymore? mlc drives are cheaper and have more space. will slc prices ever become affordable for regular people? these new x25's sound like they will be awesome.
 
A 320 sounds tempting.

Finally a new SSD drive that at least matches what I have in capacity (320 @ 7200 currently).

With an upgrade to 8 GB of RAM coming up, a 2.8/8GB/320 SSD would be insane.
 
Belm said:
not to hijack the thread or anything but, does slc even matter anymore? mlc drives are cheaper and have more space. will slc prices ever become affordable for regular people? these new x25's sound like they will be awesome.
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I only see MLC getting cheaper and more reliable; SLC does matter because it offers more than 10x the reliability. If they offered a 160GB or bigger drive in SLC that didn't cost me a kidney, I'd buy it.
 
mcpryon2 said:
I would guess since it's still an X25-M the specs would be similar to previously released versions. The SSDSA2MH160G2C1 is listed in Intel's site in the same family as the existing X25-Ms.
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Some Guy 555 said:
For now, the only known difference between the old gen X25-M's and the new ones are the following:

1. 34nm NAND flash instead of 40nm NAND flash (old version).
2. Lower cost per GB.

It is possible that they will have improved sequential write as that is relatively low at 70mb/s although it really doesn't matter.

I would say that they improved upon the random read/write again and brought it closer to the x25-E.
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Those NANDs are supposed to be ONFI 2.1 instead of the old ONFI 1.0 that previous X25-M had.

ONFI 2.1 is 133-200MBps per NAND in performance compared to 40-50MBps in previous ONFI 1.0 NANDs. It is also much more simple, efficient, deeper pipeline and just plain better than ONFI 1.0.

If in fact that they are ONFI 2.1 NANDs, X25-M could exceed beyond 300MBps in both read and write.

Belm said:
not to hijack the thread or anything but, does slc even matter anymore? mlc drives are cheaper and have more space. will slc prices ever become affordable for regular people? these new x25's sound like they will be awesome.
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For consumers, no. For businesses or academic customers, yes. SLC will always have 10x lifespan than MLC drive. Those kind of customers do a lot of disk-intensive operations that would kill MLC drives within months instead of 2-5+ years with SLC drives.

There are technologies being researched right now in improving the lifespan for both SLC/MLC drives, right now there are breakthroughs that are promising to extend MLC's lifespan from 10,000 write limit to 100,000 and to 1,000,000. SLC could improve from 1 million to 10 million.
 
For the average user who needs his disk mostly to read data rather han alter it continuously, MLC gets him better performance in the long run as he can save quite some and upgrade more often.

Intel started retailing for around $700 for 80gb and now the same money + $100 supposedly buys 320 gb. Wouldn't be risky to assume that spring 2010 $700 buys half a TB or much more.
 
Belm said:
not to hijack the thread or anything but, does slc even matter anymore? mlc drives are cheaper and have more space. will slc prices ever become affordable for regular people? these new x25's sound like they will be awesome.
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Yes SLC bypasses a lot of the write issues that MLC have. Though I think that MLC for consumers is here to stay and there are some interesting approaches coming to controller technology to improve he durability of MLC

Fusion IO brings SLC durability to MLC
 
Some Guy 555 said:
For now, the only known difference between the old gen X25-M's and the new ones are the following:

1. 34nm NAND flash instead of 40nm NAND flash (old version).
2. Lower cost per GB.

It is possible that they will have improved sequential write as that is relatively low at 70mb/s although it really doesn't matter.

I would say that they improved upon the random read/write again and brought it closer to the x25-E.
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According to a guy on Notebook Review, it has also been confirmed that the X25-M's write speed has increased from 70mbps->90mbps. Nothing on read speed yet. The one other big question is how much reliability has increased in the new models.
 
Mr. Wonderful said:
According to a guy on Notebook Review, it has also been confirmed that the X25-M's write speed has increased from 70mbps->90mbps. Nothing on read speed yet. The one other big question is how much reliability has increased in the new models.
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And TRIM support.
 
emt1 said:
No, they will never upgrade the extreme series again. Who wants their computer to be fast anyways?
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I love pointless reponses. They do nothing but build post count. It was a simple question. If its been said, then say so. I see the X25-M's are getting the upgrade. I would love to see a bump in the Extreme model's but because of my needs I require one that would need to have at least 128GB of space.
 
Chad H said:
But aren't these just the mainstream drives? Is Intel upgrading the extreme series too?:confused:
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There is no mention of the extreme series being upgraded on tuesday. There IS however mention of them releasing a 128GB version of the Extreme series in late december of 09.
 
Some Guy 555 said:
There is no mention of the extreme series being upgraded on tuesday. There IS however mention of them releasing a 128GB version of the Extreme series in late december of 09.
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I had heard that about a month ago. I got really excited when these were being released. Thought maybe Intel would push them(Extreme's) on out sooner. Thanks for clearing that up. Looks like 250GB X25-M is gonna be my next toy. :)
 
Chad H said:
I had heard that about a month ago. I got really excited when these were being released. Thought maybe Intel would push them(Extreme's) on out sooner. Thanks for clearing that up. Looks like 250GB X25-M is gonna be my next toy. :)
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There's going to be a 250GB X25-M?
 
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