New iPad 5 Case Consistent with Rumored Mini-Style Redesign

[macUser2007]

Have you ever tried doing it on your iPhone? It's intentionally possible to do that.

Yes, I have. I have tried running various flashlight apps, while playing a podcast and running an app like Endomondo at the same time. The moment you navigate away from the flashlight app (which keeps the screen lit up the whole time, BTW, draining the battery), the flashlight will go off. So, if you want to make a call, send a text, change the song or the podcast stream, you will be in the dark.

Now, please answer the simple question I asked you at the begining:

What is the name of the flashlight app, which as you so long-windedly and with such certainty claim, works with multitasking?

If you cannot provide the name, please stop posting nonsense.

 

[Fatalbert]

Yes, I have. I have tried running various flashlight apps, while playing a podcast and running an app like Endomondo at the same time. The moment you navigate away from the flashlight app (which keeps the screen lit up the whole time, BTW, draining the battery), the flashlight will go off. So, if you want to make a call, send a text, change the song or the podcast stream, you will be in the dark.

Now, please answer the simple question I asked you at the begining:

What is the name of the flashlight app, which as you so long-windedly and with such certainty claim, works with multitasking?

If you cannot provide the name, please stop posting nonsense.

I don't know which flashlight apps support multitasking (since I never need to send SMS in the dark with my light on), but it's possible for them to do it. It's not an iOS limitation that your app does not support it. What you said about iOS not supporting multitasking is false.

If you want to do what you originally said, playing music and leaving voice navigation on in the background, you can turn those apps on then switch to the flashlight.

 

[macUser2007]

I don't know which flashlight apps support multitasking....

So, if you don't know, don't post nonsense.

There is NO flashlight app which supports multitasking, because Apple does not allow it. Yes, Apple does not allow it.

It can apparently be done with a jailbroken phone and a bit bit of setting, but I've been too lazy to deal with it, since it's just easier to use my Android for this purpose.

Now that we have confirmed that you do not know of any flashlight applications which can do multitasking (because there are none), back to my point:

I am actually a long-time Apple fan, who is also all too happy to try something else, if it looks better. And believe me, Android is really getting better (yep, even Wozniak said it....)

Apple can do better on the software front, but it has not done so so far. More robust multitasking and customization (yes, the iOS keyboard sucks badly and there are no good alternatives) should be very hight on the priority list.

If something doesn't change soon, other than a few cosmetic hardware improvements, Apple will lose market share. It's as simple as that.

 

[Fatalbert]

So, if you don't know, don't post nonsense.

There is NO flashlight app which supports multitasking, because Apple does not allow it. Yes, Apple does not allow it.

What I said was possible was using a flashlight while music and GPS is on in the background. That is true. To summarize, you said that this was not possible because there is no iOS multitasking. You changed this to something else (using a flashlight while texting) then said that I was posting nonsense. Yes it is impossible to do that due to app restrictions (no light while in background).

I agree that iOS could use some looser multitasking rules, but you're being a 4-year-old right now. Since you forgot, or you're playing dumb, here is what you said:

Try going for a walk with your iPhone while listening to music or a podcast, running a tracking app (to track your time, distance, speed, etc.) AND using a flashlight to see in the dark.

You simply CANNOT do this in iOS, while it's a no-brained in Android. And before someone starts ranting about battery life, this is a non-issue nowadays on Android.

Totally false. Here are the rules if you are interested: http://developer.apple.com/library/...cationsFlow/ManagingYourApplicationsFlow.html

Implementing Long-Running Background Tasks
For tasks that require more execution time to implement, you must request specific permissions to run them in the background without their being suspended. In iOS, only specific app types are allowed to run in the background:

Apps that play audible content to the user while in the background, such as a music player app
Apps that keep users informed of their location at all times, such as a navigation app
Apps that support Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP)
Newsstand apps that need to download and process new content
Apps that receive regular updates from external accessories
Apps that implement these services must declare the services they support and use system frameworks to implement the relevant aspects of those services. Declaring the services lets the system know which services you use, but in some cases it is the system frameworks that actually prevent your application from being suspended.

 

[Chlloret]

So, if you don't know, don't post nonsense.

There is NO flashlight app which supports multitasking, because Apple does not allow it. Yes, Apple does not allow it.

It can apparently be done with a jailbroken phone and a bit bit of setting, but I've been too lazy to deal with it, since it's just easier to use my Android for this purpose.

Now that we have confirmed that you do not know of any flashlight applications which can do multitasking (because there are none), back to my point:

I am actually a long-time Apple fan, who is also all too happy to try something else, if it looks better. And believe me, Android is really getting better (yep, even Wozniak said it....)

Apple can do better on the software front, but it has not done so so far. More robust multitasking and customization (yes, the iOS keyboard sucks badly and there are no good alternatives) should be very hight on the priority list.

If something doesn't change soon, other than a few cosmetic hardware improvements, Apple will lose market share. It's as simple as that.

So do I get this right, you are hiking at night, need the flashlight to see, listening to a podcast, at the same time following turn by turn instructions (you do not want to fall off a cliff now,do you?) and text (one handed?) while having a phone conversation? And this, very common szenario, is not possible with the I phone?

I just tried it. I played with tunein Radio a country song from a Texas Radio station, at the same time running Navigon in pedestrian mode (the musik turns down while the lady speaks) and switched on the LED Flashlight app. All was going dandy. If I now try to text someone, the flashlight actually goes off. Is that what you mean? You need the music, the satnav and text app AND have the flashlight on?

Well, I'm flabbergasted that this oversight did not get noticed by the 300 Million iPhone users, this is indeed not acceptable. Truly a reason to go to Android. All 30mins of battery life you will get out of it. You are worth it.

 

[thadoggfather]

What are JB enthusiasts gonna do?

Get the ipad 5 when it releases and wait for a while or maybe an eternity? Or pick up the 4/an older ipad/mini in the interim?

 

[Lark.Landon]

hahaha i had to scroll back up and was like lol! Ur right

lol

 

[lk400]

I understand the benefits of having a case on shelves on release day of a new tablet or phone. But can someone please explain to me what benefit there is in having a case many months in advance? You get to spend your money and have it tied up in trading stock which you can sit on for 4 or more months, instead of earning a return somewhere else. You get to base your whole design on the flimsiest of early rumours and wait an indefinite period of time for the release date when hopefully people will prefer your piece of plastic to others. Especially now that release schedules are changing adding even more uncertainty into the mix - just seems a little silly.

 

[twoodcc]

looking forward to the next iPad. hope it's released soon!

 

[macUser2007]

So do I get this right, you are hiking at night, need the flashlight to see, listening to a podcast, at the same time following turn by turn instructions (you do not want to fall off a cliff now,do you?) and text (one handed?) while having a phone conversation? And this, very common szenario, is not possible with the I phone?
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O.K., I also get the Texas spelling thing, as well as never needing to exercise....

But, since I am not from Texas, my scenario is this:

I go for a run or a hike after a day at the office:

I start Endomondo (a rather poor substitute, BTW, for the currently Android-only Noom), which is not a "turn-by-turn" GPS app, but a popular fitness app which tracks your distance, speed, estimates calories burned, etc.. Then you can see how many times you were out in the last month or year, how many miles you have ran, how many calories you have burned, if you are getting slower or faster and so on.

I start a music app, or listen to a podcast.

Then, since it's often dark when I am in the park, I turn on a flashlight app.

On the iPhone, all the flashlight apps keep the screen on, which actually drains the battery significantly and it's annoying to have shining in your face. Apparently, turning the screen off while the app is running is deemed to be multitasking by Apple, so they do not allow it.

On the Galaxy Nexus, I simply turn the screen off. No battery drain. No annoying screen light in my face.

Now, I run or hike for an hour or hour and a half. During that time, I may get a call. Or I may get a text message to which I might want to respond. Or, I may want to send a text message to someone that I am meeting later on. Or, I may simply want to listen to something else.

The moment I want to perform any of these actions, I lose the light. And as I said, it's dark in the park.

So, if I had to call you for a few minutes during my run or hike, I have to stop and stay in one place, because the flashlight stops working on the iPhone.

If you think that this is such an unusual scenario, fine. But where I live, it's not so rare, really. I see a lot of people doing the same.

That's why I use the Galaxy Nexus for this.

Now, the iPhone is certainly a prettier phone. It's better designed and better made than the Galaxy Nexus. But iOS has been stagnant, while Google has been working hard to improve their OS. And it shows.

Apple needs to do better.

 

[powers74]

I suggest you try before you buy. Sketching is very different on a (pressure sensitive) Wacom.

Oh, I know, I sketch on my iPhone occasionally. There is a new stylus that mimics pressure sensitivity, forget what it's called off the top of my head, and the devs opened up their api or whatever and several sketching apps support it now. Havn't tried it, but my boss has it and says he likes it. However, he is a poseur and never really uses it.

 

[Ambush083]

I will miss the beveled edges. It made the tablet super easy to pick up from any angle when on a table.

Do you even lift?

 

[slffl]

I will miss the beveled edges. It made the tablet super easy to pick up from any angle when on a table.

I also like the placement of the speaker with the beveled edge. It let the sound bounce off the table nicely, or let my hand naturally bounce it back while holding it.

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Now, the iPhone is certainly a prettier phone. It's better designed and better made than the Galaxy Nexus. But iOS has been stagnant, while Google has been working hard to improve their OS. And it shows.

How is iOS stangant and Android improving? HOW?! You all keep repeating this and NEVER say why? Android can't even BACKUP and RESTORE!!! How is that improving on iOS?!

And if you say animated wallpapers, widgets, or themes

 

[appleguy123]

Do you even lift?

It's not about weight, it's about grip.

 

[Renzatic]

How is iOS stangant and Android improving? HOW?! You all keep repeating this and NEVER say why? Android can't even BACKUP and RESTORE!!! How is that improving on iOS?!

And if you say animated wallpapers, widgets, or themes

I wouldn't say iOS is stale, but Android is getting more features far faster these days. Off the top of my head, I can think of easy access to all the settings from the notification menu, better keyboards with much, much better autocorrect setup, kinetic scrolling without having to drill down into the settings app, A DAMN BACK BUTTON MY GOD IT'S SO FREAKING NICE, a better send-to-app setup, being able to set default apps, the contextual features in Google Now, being able to set shortcuts to pages and features within apps from the springboard, ...

...and widgets.

These are just off the top of my head. Now don't get me wrong, iOS doesn't suck in comparison or anything, but it is lacking some really nice things Android has had for a little while now.

 

[Ambush083]

It's not about weight, it's about grip.

haha! I'm sure you heard of this meme, right?

 

[fingg]

Wait of course.

But I heard the iPad 7 is really something.

And someone just said the iPad 8 will be THE one.

So...waiting and waiting... Noooooo