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New iPad Pro Has Comparable Performance to 2018 15" MacBook Pro in Benchmarks
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So the new iPad Pros can do the same limited things really fast. Got it.
That's the point of having an ARM-based Macintosh. This shows they are ready to take control of their CPU path for the Mac product line, instead of having to wait for Intel.
Keep in mind that those ARM chips still haven't been used in a Mac, which all come with some kind of cooling solution. You could probably beat or at least tie the intel chips if you clocked them a bit higher. A pretty remarkable feat.
It's a shame that such efficient and elegant hardware is crippled by an out-of-date OS/UI. WebOS 2/3 from the Palm/HP days would look and work pretty slick on this hardware.
Is it just me or does iOS's design seem over-simplified and "too smart" (not really, but they seem to be trying unnecessarily)?
It's like we know the hardware can do so much more, if the OS/UI would just get out of the way (or better yet, have a UI that can make use of said power).
Kudos to Apple's hardware team.
Is it just me or does iOS's design seem over-simplified and "too smart" (not really, but they seem to be trying unnecessarily)?
It's like we know the hardware can do so much more, if the OS/UI would just get out of the way (or better yet, have a UI that can make use of said power).
Kudos to Apple's hardware team.
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Some of the people here are missing the point.
In the past people said ARM couldn't replace Intel in Macs because ARM wasn't fast enough.
When ARM became fast enough to compete favourably against some lower end Macs, people said ARM wasn't fast enough because it couldn't emulate Intel's instructions fast enough.
Now we are at the point that Apple's ARM is TWICE as fast as lower end Macs, and probably fast enough to emulate a 2018 MacBook Air competitively, and fast enough to compete against a currently shipping i5 MacBook Pro and i5 iMac in native mode.
To get reasonable emulation speed of faster Macs, Apple could build a Mac with TWO A12X chips in it.
While it may not happen this generation, it's gonna happen relatively soon. The iPad Pro, at least in this benchmark, is now faster than my 2017 i5 iMac, yet resides in a uber thin fanless tablet. That is simply remarkable.
In the past people said ARM couldn't replace Intel in Macs because ARM wasn't fast enough.
When ARM became fast enough to compete favourably against some lower end Macs, people said ARM wasn't fast enough because it couldn't emulate Intel's instructions fast enough.
Now we are at the point that Apple's ARM is TWICE as fast as lower end Macs, and probably fast enough to emulate a 2018 MacBook Air competitively, and fast enough to compete against a currently shipping i5 MacBook Pro and i5 iMac in native mode.
To get reasonable emulation speed of faster Macs, Apple could build a Mac with TWO A12X chips in it.
While it may not happen this generation, it's gonna happen relatively soon. The iPad Pro, at least in this benchmark, is now faster than my 2017 i5 iMac, yet resides in a uber thin fanless tablet. That is simply remarkable.
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When will they put Macs on ARM? I assume the plan is to eventually ditch Intel completely.
They will probably start with the Macbook, then work up to the Macbook Air and then eventually the Macbook Pro and the iMacs.
They will probably start with the Macbook, then work up to the Macbook Air and then eventually the Macbook Pro and the iMacs.
Is this gonna be the end of fan noise? I sure hope so!
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It can show Netflix, and it can download from iTunes Store. Stop leeching from society.
About the only downside (old to new for the 12.9) is they dropped about 10% of the battery capacity going from 40wHr to ~36wHr I think, looks like RAM stayed steady.
Correct. Most architectures out there are RISC at this point. RISC has more than proven itself. It has basically become a defacto standard, outside of the x86 world.
History repeats itself over and over again. I still remember the day when Apple made the switch from powerPC cpus to Intel. Everything was living a double life at the moment.
I think a lot of people misunderstood this article. This is not about the iPad versatility, but it’s all about raw computational power. Apple will need to make a big switch to unify the apps between macs and ipad then they will start producing Macs with arm processors.
During the keynote Apple compared sales of iPads to sales of computers from other PC makers. I actually think Apple is setting up the iPad Pro to be the future of its laptop line and eventually replace the MB / MBP line. Obviously not overnight but think 5 to 10 years where there will be iPad Pros ("laptops") and desktop Macs
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Qualcomm and Intel are sweating like pigs.
Do you know why they're not giving a ****? Other than potentially looking tos ee what inovations are coming?
Because Apple will not compete in the same space. Unless Apple will release their CPU's for 3rd party sales, Neither Intel nor Qualcomm need to worry.
Apple isn't releasing any server class CPU's for use in servers and they have not made a single push back into enterprise back end infrastructure since the cancellation of xserve.
Apple isn't going to sell the CPU to Samsung, Huwei, etc for use in mobile, so again, these companies arne't "sweating" because Apple isn't trying to break out of their existing space.
Love what Apple has done. Maybe comptuer tech would advance faster if they did sell their CPU and designs for use in 3rd party. But currently, the only way to use an Apple CPU is in an Apple device.
And at the end of the day, the bulk of consumer users aren't going to suddenly stop using servers or desktop class computers because Apple has the Ax CPU's in their devices.
That’s an interesting point. One benefits from active cooling the other is hindered/throttled without it, so how could the bench mark comparisons be fair?
Unlikely, if they introduce ARM to power Macs. They'll just run the chips at higher power.
One of the things that annoys me about my MacBook is I can't download from Netflix for local storage. This is purely an OS and software limitation though. You can download from Netflix on the iPad and you can download from Netflix in Windows 10.
Consequently, I sometimes carry BOTH my iPad Air 2 and my 2017 MacBook Core m3 with me. The good news though is that combination is only 3 lbs.
It's certainly possible, but I think Apple wants to keep them separate like they have stated over and over. macOS on ARM laptops and desktops, for sure, with a unified app store that covers both. They want a future where you buy 1 app from the app store and it adapts to the device you are using it on. All on vertically integrated Apple hardware.
2020 is my guess, with their plans revealed at WWDC 2019. Everyting with a T2 or higher is now a test device.
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I don't think they are. You need to look at the form factor. There's still a heavy need for laptops especially in large professional businesses including IBM.
If I had to swap out a MBP for an iPad Pro (even if it ran MacOS), it would cripple my productivity. Imagine the plethora of accessories you'd have to carry with you everywhere you go.
I download torrents from my iPad to my NAS, using an app. This was the final piece I needed to move on from macOS.
That is very true today and even next year but that's why, in my post, i specifically stated a 5 to 10 year time frame
And I want VMware, 32GB of RAM and a mouse. Oh wait, that's called a MacBook Pro.
But who’s saying it’s a Mac replacement? As strangely enough Apple don’t seem to have stopped making laptops ...
Good point, how long can an iPad sustain these numbers for? Even the latest MacBook Pro with its flimsy cooling will be able to dissipate many more Watts than an iPad.