iPad Pro New iPad Pro in 2020? 5G in 2021?

TigeRick

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https://iphone.appleinsider.com/art...ay-for-2020-with-5g-in-2021-says-ming-chi-kuo

According to Ming Chi Kuo, Apple is planning minor update to iPad Pro (same display size) by the end of the year. Now I wonder:

1.Will Apple increase the RAM from 4GB to 6GB to all storage size?

2. Will Apple going to fully replace current models with new models at same price?

3.64GB for so called iPad Pro is a joke, will Apple increase the entry size of storage to 256GB?
 
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*~Kim~*

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https://iphone.appleinsider.com/art...ay-for-2020-with-5g-in-2021-says-ming-chi-kuo

According to Ming Chi Kuo, Apple is planning minor update to iPad Pro (same display size) by the end of the year. Now I wonder:

1.Will Apple increase the RAM from 4GB to 6GB to all storage size?

2. Will Apple going to fully replace current models with new models at same price?

3.64GB for so called iPad Pro is a joke, will Apple increaae the entry size of storage to 256GB?
I can see the base storage going up now that the Mini and Air are on 64GB, but maybe only to 128GB if they are being stingy. RAM only being 1GB higher than 2019 models is something that perhaps needs addressing, but they probably like having the tiered system as it were as it will up sell some to the top model. Maybe they’ll only offer 3 storage capacities rather than 4 as in general Apple don’t offer as many variants as they used to (only 2 storage options on iPad, Mini, Air.)
 
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https://iphone.appleinsider.com/art...ay-for-2020-with-5g-in-2021-says-ming-chi-kuo

According to Ming Chi Kuo, Apple is planning minor update to iPad Pro (same display size) by the end of the year. Now I wonder:

1.Will Apple increase the RAM from 4GB to 6GB to all storage size?

2. Will Apple going to fully replace current models with new models at same price?

3.64GB for so called iPad Pro is a joke, will Apple increase the entry size of storage to 256GB?

I literally can’t Imagine what Apple could Update on the iPad Pro in the next 3 years besides OLED or Rear Cameras which is why I bought the 2018 11” iPad Pro because.

2019 incremental update (not worth it)
2020 First 5G and 6GB RAM
2021 5G and OLED, I might buy this one.

I just wish we had 5G cellphone service.
Now that Apple and Qualcomm are friends again.
If you had invested $1,000 bucks in Apple and Qualcomm 15 years ago you’d have over $1,000,000 dollars today.
 
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rui no onna

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If you had invested $1,000 bucks in Apple and Qualcomm 15 years ago you’d have over $1,000,000 dollars today.
Not quite. If you had invested $1000 each in AAPL and QCOM in 2004, your AAPL shares (with dividends reinvested) would be worth ~$140K now while your QCOM shares would be worth ~$2.9K.
 
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tps3443

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I’m curious to see this iPad refresh model in 2019. If it is just cellular updates then I’m keeping my 11” 1TB cellular model for another year.

Current 4G LTE service is very fast, and I can use all the data I want. I doubt I’ll see 5G near me sooner than 5 years time.
 

EugW

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I wasn't planning on buying for a couple of years, but IF:

1) iOS got mouse support
2) iOS got proper external storage support
3) All iPad Pro models got at least 6 GB RAM
4) The entry level iPad Pro got 128 GB storage

Then I may buy. I can pass down this 64 GB iPad Pro 10.5" with 4 GB RAM (which I just bought last month actually) to my wife. She passed down her iPad Air 2 to our kids so now she has no iPad at all, and just borrows the kids' iPads when she needs one.

My 64 GB model is OK, but it's a bit tight now that I use it for more stuff than I did with my old iPad. However, I don't want to pay for 256 GB since I don't need it. Also, I don't want to pay big bucks to get the same 4 GB RAM that I have now. 128 GB and 6 GB RAM would be perfect... if I could actually use it fully.
 
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tps3443

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I wasn't planning on buying for a couple of years, but IF:

1) iOS got mouse support
2) iOS got proper external storage support
3) All iPad Pro models got at least 6 GB RAM
4) The entry level iPad Pro got 128 GB storage

Then I may buy. I can pass down this 64 GB iPad Pro 10.5" with 4 GB RAM (which I just bought last month actually) to my wife. She passed down her iPad Air 2 to our kids so now she has no iPad at all, and just borrows the kids' iPads when she needs one.

My 64 GB model is OK, but it's a bit tight now that I use it for more stuff than I did with my old iPad. However, I don't want to pay for 256 GB since I don't need it. Also, I don't want to pay big bucks to get the same 4 GB RAM that I have now. 128 GB and 6 GB RAM would be perfect... if I could actually use it fully.
If your running low on space after a month with 64GB, 256GB would probably be perfect. Overtime you slowly use more and more space, and you wouldn’t have to micro manage it either. Imagine how much more space you may have been using over the period of a year.

I was always deleting things with 64GB. It was frustrating sometimes.
 

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https://iphone.appleinsider.com/art...ay-for-2020-with-5g-in-2021-says-ming-chi-kuo

According to Ming Chi Kuo, Apple is planning minor update to iPad Pro (same display size) by the end of the year. Now I wonder:

1.Will Apple increase the RAM from 4GB to 6GB to all storage size?

2. Will Apple going to fully replace current models with new models at same price?

3.64GB for so called iPad Pro is a joke, will Apple increase the entry size of storage to 256GB?
1) unlikely in my opinion
2) I think this might happen, however the older models will probably be available on sale at some other retailers for a bit until they’re sold out
3) also unlikely in my opinion
 
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EugW

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If your running low on space after a month with 64GB, 256GB would probably be perfect. Overtime you slowly use more and more space, and you wouldn’t have to micro manage it either. Imagine how much more space you may have been using over the period of a year.

I was always deleting things with 64GB. It was frustrating sometimes.
Nah. I was fine with 64 GB for years. But now that I use the iPad for more I’m usually sitting at around 15-20 GB free. That’s a bit tight for me since I occasionally want to import some videos. An extra 64 GB for a total of 128 GB would last me years though.
 

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I’m curious to see this iPad refresh model in 2019. If it is just cellular updates then I’m keeping my 11” 1TB cellular model for another year.

Current 4G LTE service is very fast, and I can use all the data I want. I doubt I’ll see 5G near me sooner than 5 years time.
If you live outside a major city, you may never see 5G -

https://arstechnica.com/information...scale-beyond-dense-urban-areas-t-mobile-says/

https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles...nter-limits-of-5g-on-mmwave-spectrum/2019/03/

I think 5G is going to be more problematic than most people are aware of because of millimeter wave limitations.
 

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I am not planning on seeing/getting 5G at all. It is really designed for urban dwellers who live 4 feet away from each other. The signal just doesn't travel far. I am in the deep country. As for traveling, 4GLTE and WIFI are more than enough for me.
 

sparksd

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I am not planning on seeing/getting 5G at all. It is really designed for urban dwellers who live 4 feet away from each other. The signal just doesn't travel far. I am in the deep country. As for traveling, 4GLTE and WIFI are more than enough for me.
There are large swaths of the US that need better (or any) 4G/LTE coverage and I hope that that does not fall to the wayside with the large investment that 5G will require just for dense urban areas.
 

EugW

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I am not planning on seeing/getting 5G at all. It is really designed for urban dwellers who live 4 feet away from each other. The signal just doesn't travel far. I am in the deep country. As for traveling, 4GLTE and WIFI are more than enough for me.
You'll still get 4G LTE in a 5G handset of course.
 

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Two things that is coming. New codec for 4k video that will be used for Netflix, youtube etc. New wi-fi standard for use for example AirPlay and 4k streaming. Plus the usual press from Apple - the new iPad is the best iPad we have ever made. :)
 

UltimaKilo

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Nah. I was fine with 64 GB for years. But now that I use the iPad for more I’m usually sitting at around 15-20 GB free. That’s a bit tight for me since I occasionally want to import some videos. An extra 64 GB for a total of 128 GB would last me years though.
If your current iPad is still performing well, but you are worried about space, I suggest $1 a month iCloud storage. I no longer worry about storage on my iPhone or iPad.

Some people also use google drive or OneDrive for work and iCloud for personal, and it seems to work well for them!
 

Shirasaki

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Nah.... 5G. I am not gonna wait for that one. At least 5 or 6 years to come before they manage to cover all “non-regional” areas (Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Gold Coast, Brisbane).
As of the increment update thing, I am considering getting this year’s iPhone and maybe iPad as a cutoff year for the next 4 to 5 years. There gonna always be new tech coming and keeping waiting is just not really an option.
As for the storage, I am using 128GB for 3 years. I now find myself constantly debating which app I would keep and which album I would sync. This is not fun. 256GB base model would be fantastic.
If iOS 12 still randomly freezes on iPhone XS Max (happens once today, need hard reset), I don’t think increasing the ram from 4GB to 6GB will solve the problem.
 

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Hard to see how they could improve it so soon..the major improvements will be based around IOS 13
 

sparksd

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Nah.... 5G. I am not gonna wait for that one. At least 5 or 6 years to come before they manage to cover all “non-regional” areas (Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Gold Coast, Brisbane).
As of the increment update thing, I am considering getting this year’s iPhone and maybe iPad as a cutoff year for the next 4 to 5 years. There gonna always be new tech coming and keeping waiting is just not really an option.
As for the storage, I am using 128GB for 3 years. I now find myself constantly debating which app I would keep and which album I would sync. This is not fun. 256GB base model would be fantastic.
If iOS 12 still randomly freezes on iPhone XS Max (happens once today, need hard reset), I don’t think increasing the ram from 4GB to 6GB will solve the problem.
Under what conditions do you see the freeze problem? I have yet to see that on my XS Max and have never needed to do a hard reset.
 

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The gospel truth by Ming (and I trust him 100%):

Gen 4 iPad Pro (minor update) - Late 19 / Early 20

Gen 5 iPad Pro (first 5G, and possibly major redesign) - 2021

My Interpretation:

Gen 5 will be the first iPad Pro with 5G. I guess it will also come with an OLED display. It will probably be launched 15 (
+-3 months) after Gen 4. It will likely have a starting price of USD 999 for the 128 GB variant (excluding US tariffs or unseen circumstances). It is also possible it starts much higher than USD 999 but it is unlikely it will start north of USD 1249.
 

Shirasaki

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Under what conditions do you see the freeze problem? I have yet to see that on my XS Max and have never needed to do a hard reset.
I have no idea. Basically just put somewhere near me on the desk. After a while when I pick up, it does not respond to buttons and screen touches at all. I then have to do a hard reset to bring it back to work.
 

Shirasaki

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Wish Apple would relax a bit on this "thin" thing as too thin is causing some issues and ruined their MacBook Pro line!

We have sacrificed enough for Apple need for thin!
Yeah, no USB A port on MacBook Pro? Butterfly keyboard? No thanks.
My MacBook Air can still hold for another year or two until SSD dies or battery dies or both.
 
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