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Remember that 1984 commercial? Apple finally did it. When 3 million people march in unison on Apple command and buy a new product on the day Apple tell them to. Is not it a little scary?

What's scary is that this is the best the haters can come up with.
 
The proper perspective is that last quarter Android tablets reached 45% market and are expected to overtake iTab in a year or two. Remember that there 355 days in a year. All (well most) Apple fans buy the new product on the same day. Android fans do not have such mentality.

I can't speak to your market share number (though it seems laughable), but the statement about "most" Apple fans buying the new product on launch day is completely ludicrous.

Most Apple buyers are not fans of apple--they are fans of the product they are buying. They don't care about launch day, they buy at their convenience. Last quarter Apple sold 15 million iPads. That's 5 times as many as this past weekend and it was with the launch of an upgrade on the horizon.

Unless they were all sold one one special day, I think your math is just a little off.
 
Remember that 1984 commercial? Apple finally did it. When 3 million people march in unison on Apple command and buy a new product on the day Apple tell them to. Is not it a little scary?

I agree with you to a certain degree, however, I have to say this trend seemed to become mainstream over a decade ago, when people started lining up the stores to get (Insert Playstation / X-Box / Nintendo name here).
 
Cha-Ching!

I'm one of them.

ok you are a very very good man. :confused:

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Can someone explain to the naïve user I am how could a barely enhanced iPad 2 launch with such figures?


lots of people upgrading because they need the latest
+ lots of new customers
+ many upgrade from iPad1
+ many like the new display
= 3 000 000 sold iPads
 
I can't speak to your market share number (though it seems laughable), but the statement about "most" Apple fans buying the new product on launch day is completely ludicrous.

Most Apple buyers are not fans of apple--they are fans of the product they are buying. They don't care about launch day, they buy at their convenience. Last quarter Apple sold 15 million iPads. That's 5 times as many as this past weekend and it was with the launch of an upgrade on the horizon.

Unless they were all sold one one special day, I think your math is just a little off.

Of course I was exaggerating. There are two main categories of iDevice buyers: the fans (buy on release day) and X-mass shoppers (4th quarter) ;)
 
Again, only Apple fans keep making this point. Probably because they believe that iPad inventories in BestBuy, Target, WalMart etc. should be considered as "sold".

Indeed, we all remember the millions of unsold iPad2 that collected dust on store shelves.

Oh wait

Shipped vs sold is a hilarious argument, always was always will be!
 
The numbers were reported on most tech sites. Do you guys even read anything but MacRumors and AppleInsider? :confused:

Here is the link.

So, as i said - guesses, as you can read in the article. No actual data.


Again, only Apple fans keep making this point. Probably because they believe that iPad inventories in BestBuy, Target, WalMart etc. should be considered as "sold".[/

What inventories?;)
 
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What's scary is that this is the best the haters can come up with.

And what's dumb about bringing up the 1984 ad is that it completely misses the point of that ad. The ad was all about corporate domination over tech, i.e., users being told what they will use at work and elsewhere and the notion that computers were only for collective, business use, not for personal, creative expression. Millions of people lining up to buy iPads are doing it of their own will, for their own personal reasons. They're not buying them because that's all their workplace will support and it's required.

FFS, it's the exact opposite of what the freakin' 1984 ad was talking about. I'll admit that you can nitpick and criticize Apple for a lot of legitimate things but failing to live up to the promise of the 1984 ad is not one of them, not even close.
 
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And what's dumb about bringing up the 1984 ad is that it completely misses the point of that ad. The ad all about corporate domination over tech, i.e., users being told what they will use at work and elsewhere and the notion that computers were only for collective, business use, not for personal, creative expression. Millions of people lining up to buy iPads are doing it of their own will, for their own personal reasons. They're not buying them because that's all their workplace will support and it's required.

FFS, it's the exact opposite of what the freakin' 1984 ad was talking about. I'll admit that you can nitpick and criticize Apple for a lot of legitimate things but failing to live up to the promise of the 1984 ad is not one of them, not even close.

Don't go bringing logic into this argument, that would make the haters upset hehe.

It is quite telling though, that upon news that apple had yet another successful launch of one of it's products, that the sullying of the news is "accomplished" (using that word lightly) by saying iPhone users are lemmings. At some point, you've gotta come up with something new...
 
Higher resolution display, stronger processor and graphics capabilities. What else?

I'm just glad I bought shares at $507!!

:):):):)
On where can you actually buy shares directly? (silly question, but I never invested anything)
 
No, not being sarcastic. I'm really depressed by that number. It should be in the 5m range. Sure there are 50 million iPads out there now but there are over 500 million people combined in the launch countries. In the U.S. alone only 2 in 10 own an iPad. So plenty of room for growth right there alone. Then you have to consider the millions of Apple fans like you and me that filp our iPads every year to have the latest and greatest.

It's estimated that Apple sold 1m iPad 2s in the U.S. at launch. So, yes the 3m seems like a lot but when you match it against 10 of the richest countries in the world w/ approx 90% of those populations not owning an iPad yet it's not fantastic. It's just not.

Chupa you make some good points. I think you have to realize that people still need to be convinced about the tablet form factor in general. Apple has sold to early adopters and then even the second adopters. The 90% that you talk about is going to be harder to reach, especially at the current price point. But the retina display and the new iPads performance is going to bring in new converts. It just is going to take marketing and also more hands on experience. Remember the retina display is literally so sharp that you cannot do it justice displaying it through TV or computer ads. So the best marketing reason for the new iPad actually requires hands on experience. This isn't the type of stuff that is going to happen on launch weekend. It might not even happen for another few years. But I think everyone will agree that eventually, every person living a modern lifestyle will have something like a tablet. It is as inevitable as how we got to everyone having a PC. Apple is right that the tablet market is probably bigger the PC market. Apple just needs to keep dominating this market and eventually the other 90% of the population will be getting a tablet.
 
Higher resolution display, stronger processor and graphics capabilities. What else?

On where can you actually buy shares directly? (silly question, but I never invested anything)

Open up a brokerage account. There are plenty of online brokers (E-Trade, Scottrade, TD Ameritrade etc.).

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But I think everyone will agree that eventually, every person living a modern lifestyle will have something like a tablet. It is as inevitable as how we got to everyone having a PC. Apple is right that the tablet market is probably bigger the PC market. Apple just needs to keep dominating this market and eventually the other 90% of the population will be getting a tablet.

Remember it took 3 decades to get PC ownership levels to where they are today. Mobile phone adoption was more rapid (it's over 100% in many developed countries). I think tablet adoption will be somewhere in between.
 
Open up a brokerage account. There are plenty of online brokers (E-Trade, Scottrade, TD Ameritrade etc.).
Is this legal here up north? What are the guarantees it's not a fraud? Sorry to ask but our country has been recently shaken with a string of investment fraud, so people are wary now.

We're not talking about petty change here, but hundreds, maybe thousands.
 
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Well this number is not real!
I was at the Soho store in NYC today, there was a huge line of scalpers returning the new iPads! Unopened! All sales folks were shocked. One by one there were people returning 1, 2, 4, 10, etc. iPads.
So I bet the real number of iPads sold to real customers is twice as less.
Well, those unopened iPads (if they exist) are not part of the 3M. Apple counts the activated devices, meaning devices that are with the customer. We are not talking Samsung here, they count "shipped" units to retail outlets.

Btw, 4,10? We could only buy 2 at a time.
 
Leave it to Apple to fix my main complaint about their products.... The chaos of the product launch.

Hardest part of the entire process for me this time around was waiting for FedEx to ring the doorbell :D

Worst part is that you might not preorder next time as it was so easy to pick one up this time. We could end up in a vicious cycle where folks decide they don't need to preorder; they will just do what I did which was drop by the Apple store after work and buy one without a line. And then another terrible mess.
 
The numbers were reported on most tech sites. Do you guys even read anything but MacRumors and AppleInsider? :confused:

Here is the link.

I read plenty of tech news and these kinds of forecasts are laughable. I don't see any actual sources for sales figures. Do you have PR or financial reports from Samsung/Amazon/etc. to back this up? As we've seen many times already, several major players in the Android tablet arena are prone to overstating their successes or not disclosing sales figures. I'm confused as to how this amounts to a credible source.

Again, only Apple fans keep making this point. Probably because they believe that iPad inventories in BestBuy, Target, WalMart etc. should be considered as "sold".

Apple announces sales figures. Their competitors seem to prefer to announce numbers of shipped devices. Maybe it truly is a question of semantics, but until you can prove that choice of wording isn't significant, you have no valid counter-argument and no reason to believe otherwise.

But let's assume you're right and sales/shipped are the same. Where are the Verizon and AT&T press releases announcing record sales when a new Android tablet comes out? The evidence that Android tablets don't sell nearly as well as the iPad is pretty clear.
 
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I think a LOT of these iPads will be returned once scalpers (resellers) realize there isn't a market for marking up iPads when Best Buy and Wal-Mart still have stock!

There are a lot of countries that don't have Apple Stores etc where scalpers can still do business. And they were forewarned about the time table so if they are selling in Hong Kong etc they know their market is limited and simply wouldn't have bought as much
 
The proper perspective is that last quarter Android tablets reached 45% market and are expected to overtake iTab in a year or two. Remember that there 355 days in a year. All (well most) Apple fans buy the new product on the same day. Android fans do not have such mentality.
wow talk about a reality distortion field
 
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