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New iPad Using Same Camera Sensors Found in Older Products
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The A5 has two graphics cores; the A5X has four. The display on the iPad 3 has four times as many pixels as the iPad 2's display. Meanwhile, doubling the number of graphics cores without increasing clockspeed or increasing memory bandwidth will lead to less than a 2x increase in real-world graphics performance.
Considering all the tech in the new iPad, this was needed to keep the cost at the same level as the iPad 2. And of course, the same profit margin.
As I've alluded to in other threads, a 45nm A5X is a deal-killer for me. The "iPad 3" is essentially an underpowered version of the iPad 2 considering the display's high resolution and lack of CPU/GPU clock increases. The next iPad will benefit from a full node shrink to (presumably) 28nm on BOTH the CPU and the 4G baseband; likely in addition to new CPU (Cortex A15) and GPU architectures. The iPad 3 is shaping up to be a repeat of the iPhone 3G (read: only survives one iOS update before becoming slow enough to impair its usefulness).
This is in addition to the battery problems the iPad 3 is likely to experience: that 45nm A5X is BIG for a mobile SoC, and will be generating a lot of heat. Hot iPad innards = significantly diminished Li-Ion battery lifetime.
Looking forward to the "iPad 4"... Android's non-GPU accelerated UI just won't do it for me.
How do you know its under-powered? Have you actually used one?? I suppose you also thought the iPad 2 was just "warmed-up" iPad 1 as well....
Also worth mentioning is that every time someone says to you 'Apple is a hardware company' you should slap them across the head.
Strongly disagree with that. I don't think there is ever going to be a bigger upgrade than going from a normal screen to a retina screen.
Apple DESIGNS the hardware, the same as HP,Dell,Compaq, etc. DESIGN the hardware.
HP,Dell,Compaq,etc. do not MAKE the hardware either - they get parts supplied by other manufacturers, same as Apple. Are HP,Dell,Compaq not 'hardware companies'?
I think YOU need a slap across the head.
I'd need a slap if I ever made made the statement that they are hardware companies. However, in the case of HP, they make (at least) printers. You may want to retract your statement... though I think your just looking for a battle over the internet... I wonder why though?
Big Deal!
This is why I own an Olympus Pen - for real picture taking. I don't even use the 8 megapiixel shooter on my Samsung Galaxy SII and that phone has an awesome photo taking app built in.
Other then he FaceTime camera I don't see much use for a camera on an iPad.
This is why I own an Olympus Pen - for real picture taking. I don't even use the 8 megapiixel shooter on my Samsung Galaxy SII and that phone has an awesome photo taking app built in.
Other then he FaceTime camera I don't see much use for a camera on an iPad.
In my opinion the tabs are not good (in general) for taking pictures being so big. Personally I would not mind the complete absence of the rear camera (front is indispensable for video chat) but since small cameras are so cheap these days I think it does make sense to have a rear camera as a "back-up" (in case you dont happen to have your phone camera or a regular camera with you when the picture presents itself) or simply as a complement to the front facing camera for video chat (e.g. you talking to somone and you want to show that person something with the rear camera, it is easier to film what you want if you can see what you are actually filming through the screen.)
So not having the latest tech in terms of camera in the ipad is not a big deal at all. And probably it makes sense to apple to use slightly "older" cameras in order to avoid compromising the supply of better cameras for their iphone 4S which does indeed benefit a lot more from having a better camera since a phone is more portable, more likely to be in your pocket when you do find a situation you want to picture and therefore more useful as an actual camera.
So not having the latest tech in terms of camera in the ipad is not a big deal at all. And probably it makes sense to apple to use slightly "older" cameras in order to avoid compromising the supply of better cameras for their iphone 4S which does indeed benefit a lot more from having a better camera since a phone is more portable, more likely to be in your pocket when you do find a situation you want to picture and therefore more useful as an actual camera.
Was i supposed to? Just because some people in a thread have seen some problems, the camera is now useless?
I'd call him out on it too. Apple releases an iPad with a hi res screen, and Samsung gets snubbed from recognition. Apple gets the praise. They dont make processors, the mobos, the video cards, RAM, hard drive, LCDs, etc. They simply put all the components in a box. Yet people say theyre 'a hardware company'... theyre not even assembly as Foxconn does their stuff too.
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I was surprised by the 45 nm as well. Although, one key thing to keep in mind is that there is tremendous headroom for Apple to shrink the dies (the A5X, LTE chipsets, DRAM, etc...) and gain significant efficiencies in the future. Never mind potential efficiency gains in the Retina display. As a long time Apple customer (and investor) I am VERY happy about this. The iPad is on a glide path to 12+ hours in the next iteration. Or, Apple could decide to go back to the thickness and weight to iPad 2 levels (or even less)
Regarding you holding off... Again, I understand the reasoning. But I've read all the reviews and they ALL say how responsive and fast the new iPad is. Only a couple mentioned that it got "a little warm". At the end of the day, its about how it performs for you personally in your hands and not about the technological details
We live in a wonderful time to have all this innovation!
As I've alluded to in other threads, a 45nm A5X is a deal-killer for me
This is in addition to the battery problems the iPad 3 is likely to experience: that 45nm A5X is BIG for a mobile SoC, and will be generating a lot of heat. Hot iPad innards = significantly diminished Li-Ion battery lifetime.
Looking forward to the "iPad 4"... Android's non-GPU accelerated UI just won't do it for me.
I was surprised by the 45 nm as well. Although, one key thing to keep in mind is that there is tremendous headroom for Apple to shrink the dies (the A5X, LTE chipsets, DRAM, etc...) and gain significant efficiencies in the future. Never mind potential efficiency gains in the Retina display. As a long time Apple customer (and investor) I am VERY happy about this. The iPad is on a glide path to 12+ hours in the next iteration. Or, Apple could decide to go back to the thickness and weight to iPad 2 levels (or even less)
Regarding you holding off... Again, I understand the reasoning. But I've read all the reviews and they ALL say how responsive and fast the new iPad is. Only a couple mentioned that it got "a little warm". At the end of the day, its about how it performs for you personally in your hands and not about the technological details
We live in a wonderful time to have all this innovation!
You must be joking if you think that all Apple does is buy all these components, hook them up and put them in the box.
I'm not bitching about Apple, im bitching about the people that call Apple a hardware company. Even if my complaints were directed at Apple, it would only be towards Apple because no other company gets this 'hardware company' labeling from the public.
Samsung doesn't supply any of the radios. Nor the batteries. Nor the case shell. Nor the boards themselves. Nor connectors. Nor most of the DRAM. Nor most of the NAND. Nor the chip design of the A5X, nor the core designs themselves.
There's a lot more to an ipad than a screen and the fabrication of one chip.
Instead, they just made 'the best product available'.
Putting in the camera from the 4S isn't a stretch on their part, nor would it make the iPad3 unavailable either.
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I thought the iPhone 4 only shot 720p?
I thought the iPhone 4 only shot 720p?
Yep. But it doesn't mean the info is wrong. Just because a camera can support a higher frame rate doesn't mean it is being used. The software could be hobbling the frame rate in a user defined sense but using the data for things like image stabilization.
I won't be shocked if someone jailbreaks the iPad and figures out a way to actually record at the higher rate.