new ipad work with old pencil?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by motulist, Oct 30, 2018.

  1. motulist macrumors 601

    motulist

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    if I get a usb-c to lightning adapter, can I use my current pencil with the new 11 inch ipad?
     
  2. sracer macrumors G3

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  3. applesith macrumors 68030

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    This is very disappointing and looks like a desperate cash grab by Apple. Plus they raised the price of the new Pencil by 30%.
     
  4. DiamonDecoden macrumors 6502

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    Will the new pencil only work on the new iPad? I wonder if it can work on the iPhone??
     
  5. LiveWireless macrumors member

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    Wow! this surprises me. I'm dying to hear what the technical reasons for that are, there are reasons right.... oh my.
     
  6. bpeeps macrumors 68030

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    Because they both have completely different pairing and charge methods. The Pencil 2 is magnetic and sticks to the new iPad Pros to pair and charge. The Pencil 1 has a lightning port that it uses to pair and charge with the old iPads, the new iPads don't have lightning ports. Pretty simple.
     
  7. sparksd macrumors 68020

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    Just upgrading my 10.5 accessories would be a pretty penny - covers, cases, ASK, pencil, card reader, HDMI adapter. Most have price increases, too.
     
  8. LiveWireless macrumors member

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    No I never charge my pencil with the lighting port on the iPad. Pairing, well OK, since the original pencil I believe has to be connected to pair. Still, maybe USB-C to lightning adapter...
     
  9. motulist thread starter macrumors 601

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    That isn't true. The pencil can be charged lots of different ways, not just by sticking it into the iPad. And technologically the usb to lightning adapter would be able to pair the devices perfectly. If they don't work together it's a transparent money grab by Apple. It's quite repulsive. I have no loyalty to Apple anymore.
     
  10. DiamonDecoden macrumors 6502

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    Apple isn't known for cheap but yes they want premium pricing... I don't have loyalty to them but they have nice products. Yes, I think the pencil only working for the newest iPad is their strategy to get people to upgrade not just the pencil... You see, I am sure many people inc. me JUST wanted a updated pencil. There is not much incentive to upgrade the iPad Pro since I love the previous gen but the new pencil is nice. However, I do get that the previous iPad is not built from ground up to function like the newest iPad...But Apple do this all the time... that is their upgrade 'incentive'.
     
  11. Davefevs macrumors regular

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    Probably keep my Apple Pencil (1st Gen) for the kids when they get an iPad upgrade (e.g. 6th Gen - depending on what Apple does with iPad next). Expect the eBay pre-owned price to drop quickly.
     
  12. Tapiture macrumors 65816

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    Not compatible. Neither are any of the keyboards (why do you think they moved the Smart Connector?) next year you can bet they’ll shrink the bezels another 1/4 inch so you have to buy a new keyboard again. Call it a cash grab or good business, it’s Apple.
     
  13. tekchic macrumors 65816

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    Nope. The new Apple Pencil requires pairing and the only way you can pair that new one is via wireless (and maybe USB-C but they just advertised all wireless). No lightning port on the new Pencil to pair even if it would work on an iPhone (which it wouldn't, the X and XS are both OLED screens).

    I wouldn't mind seeing a Pencil-compatible iPhone in the future though - it'd be nice to go super light and just sketch on my phone screen for small things.
     
  14. gadgetfreaky macrumors 65816

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    I still have the Apple Pencil I ordered from the Pro in a box unopened. I had planned to use it on the new 2018 but I guess not?
    maybe apple has an Apple Pencil trade in program lol
    I guess I could sell it??
     
  15. Farns macrumors newbie

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    Everyone is ignoring your original thought...which is the same one I had. Inside the original Apple Pencil box is a female to female lightning adapter for charging your Apple Pencil with a wall outlet. Most people don’t know it’s there.

    USB C to lightning cable into the F/F adapter into the Apple Pencil would connect the original Apple Pencil to the iPad Pro 3rd Gen. I’m guessing it would even charge it....only question is why wouldn’t it pair?

    I’m still holding out hope - I get why they wouldn’t advertise that option as a work around because it’s kind of a clusterf$*k way of connecting it.....but would it work?!
     
  16. Rogifan macrumors Core

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    I get why the new Pencil won’t work with older iPads. But old pencil not working with new iPads seems like a cash grab. Shouldn’t you be able to pair using a USB-C to lightning adapter?
     
  17. danj555 macrumors member

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    Thats a good point. It could in theory be charged by forcing customers to buy a dongle FOR THEIR PENCIL. hahaha.

    But yea it could work, but much simpler to just make a dividing line. I get both sides to this, but I'm sorta in favor with the direction they took.
     
  18. Rogifan macrumors Core

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    The 1st gen Pencil comes with an adapter for charging. Charging it via lightning port was for convenience. BUT there is no way to pair it to an iPad without sticking it in the lightning port.
     
  19. DiamonDecoden macrumors 6502

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    yea.... you need to sell it.. this is 1 reason I am sticking to my 10.5... also b/c I find the older design much more prettier. I think the previous gen. is very nice still if you plan to keep it.
     
  20. bpeeps macrumors 68030

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    Solution: Don't purchase. Vote with your money. Easiest way to show Apple you're unhappy with their design decisions. But we all know you'd rather complain and buy it anyway.
     
  21. motulist thread starter macrumors 601

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    Completely incorrect. I bought the 9.7, then the next year bought the 10.5, and I was planning on buying the new iPad again this year if I liked it enough... but I don't, so I'm not buying a new one this year.
     
  22. DNichter macrumors G3

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    What didn’t you like about the new model?
     

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